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Stuarty30 wrote:

ValMar wrote:

Stuarty30 wrote:Paul Smith is stepping up to LHW. Why's he not included in the poll?

Simply, I can not memorise all Smiths.

Paul 'Smigga' Smith. He's an absolute beast!

Is he one of the brothers (Callum & co) ?
Honestly, I have not watched him.
A beast ? I would like that you are right.

Gvozdyk will clean up the division. Apart from prime Kovalev noone there has a chance to beat him.

ValMar wrote:

Stuarty30 wrote:

ValMar wrote:
Simply, I can not memorise all Smiths.

Paul 'Smigga' Smith. He's an absolute beast!

Is he one of the brothers (Callum & co) ?
Honestly, I have not watched him.
A beast ? I would like that you are right.

He's the best boxer I've ever seen

Stuarty30 wrote:

ValMar wrote:

Stuarty30 wrote:
Paul 'Smigga' Smith. He's an absolute beast!

Is he one of the brothers (Callum & co) ?
Honestly, I have not watched him.
A beast ? I would like that you are right.

He's the best boxer I've ever seen

Are you kidding me ?

ValMar wrote:

Stuarty30 wrote:

ValMar wrote:
Is he one of the brothers (Callum & co) ?
Honestly, I have not watched him.
A beast ? I would like that you are right.

He's the best boxer I've ever seen

Are you kidding me ?

No! Haven't you seen him in action? Like poetry in motion

Paul Smith gonna beat them all, then show the Cruiserweights how its done. He was weight drained when he lost.

WBSS it in a perfect world:

Krushedner v Bivol
Barrera v Alvarez

Jack v Gvozdyk
Stevenson v Beterbiev

BitPlayer wrote:Paul Smith gonna beat them all, then show the Cruiserweights how its done. He was weight drained when he lost.

Alexander Brand will beat Smith and the rest of them.

PsychoGamerTwo wrote:

gilgamesh wrote:

PsychoGamerTwo wrote:Bivol couldn't even stop a 9-7 guy last year... Jack has improved so much, fought Dirrell, Groves, Bute, DeGale & Cleverly, and no one managed to beat him. Bivol won't either. I'd be surprised if Jack does not beat the poo out of him. He's gotta hope he lands a perfect lucky one like Edwards did.

That guy you mentioned that Bivol didn't stop has only been stopped once, and it was via 12th round TKO. I think it's safe to say he's a pretty durable guy in spite of his poor record.

Might be, but he hasn't fought nobody either, and clearly isn't on the same level as Jack. You think Jack would have been stopped against his opponents?

No

BitPlayer wrote:Paul Smith gonna beat them all, then show the Cruiserweights how its done. He was weight drained when he lost.

LOL!!

For which one of Paul's SEVEN losses was he "weight drained"? Was it his first loss to Steve Bendall or his recent lopsided decision loss to Tyron Zeuge?

http://boxrec.com/en/boxer/182945

ValMar wrote:

Stuarty30 wrote:

ValMar wrote:
Is he one of the brothers (Callum & co) ?
Honestly, I have not watched him.
A beast ? I would like that you are right.

He's the best boxer I've ever seen

Are you kidding me ?

They're putting you on amigo. Paul Smith is a faded veteran who was never that good to begin with!!

http://boxrec.com/en/boxer/182945

For a short period, it will be Kovalev. But in the long run, it will be Gilberto Ramirez, who isn't even on the poll. I should add that the poll had a lot of space left over for other names, like Gilberto Ramirez, who should have been on the poll. Also, the contents of the poll seem to be biased towards containing all of ValMar's favorite fighters, plus Stevenson.

Lackeos wrote:For a short period, it will be Kovalev. But in the long run, it will be Gilberto Ramirez, who isn't even on the poll. I should add that the poll had a lot of space left over for other names, like Gilberto Ramirez, who should have been on the poll. Also, the contents of the poll seem to be biased towards containing all of ValMar's favorite fighters, plus Stevenson.

Ramirez is not a strong puncher at 168, and he will be relatively feather-fisted at 175. He is not a defensive fighter, so I don't see how he could succeed at 175.

boxing_rocks wrote:

Lackeos wrote:For a short period, it will be Kovalev. But in the long run, it will be Gilberto Ramirez, who isn't even on the poll. I should add that the poll had a lot of space left over for other names, like Gilberto Ramirez, who should have been on the poll. Also, the contents of the poll seem to be biased towards containing all of ValMar's favorite fighters, plus Stevenson.

Ramirez is not a strong puncher at 168, and he will be relatively feather-fisted at 175. He is not a defensive fighter, so I don't see how he could succeed at 175.

Well, he's taller than most of the people in the poll, has a longer reach than most of them, he ranks higher p4p than most of them, and is almost a decade younger than some of them. Ramirez and Bivol should be expected to improve more than the other names in the poll, given their ages. Also, let's not forget, a couple of years from now, most of the names in the poll will have moved-up to CW, meanwhile Ramirez will have moved-up to LHW. Finally, I should point out that Eubank and maybe some other SMW's are unlikely to move up to LHW anytime soon, because he only recently moved-up from MW.

Best Coast wrote:

ValMar wrote:

Stuarty30 wrote: He's the best boxer I've ever seen

Are you kidding me ?

They're putting you on amigo. Paul Smith is a faded veteran who was never that good to begin with!!

http://boxrec.com/en/boxer/182945

Su amigo para sus padres.

Yarde

Lackeos wrote:For a short period, it will be Kovalev. But in the long run, it will be Gilberto Ramirez, who isn't even on the poll. I should add that the poll had a lot of space left over for other names, like Gilberto Ramirez, who should have been on the poll. Also, the contents of the poll seem to be biased towards containing all of ValMar's favorite fighters, plus Stevenson.

I have no "favorite fighters" at LHW, but I like to watch all mentioned on the poll. I intented to put Jack on the poll, but I put Bivol, just now, I feel they might be even, but I feel that Bivol might achieve more than Jack in the future.
Frankly, I did not think about Ramirez as LHW ruler, but he might be on the top, but not before 2020, I have to mention Eubank,too, but I am not sure about his natural weight.

Beterbiev will rule.

gilgamesh wrote:

PsychoGamerTwo wrote:

gilgamesh wrote:
That guy you mentioned that Bivol didn't stop has only been stopped once, and it was via 12th round TKO. I think it's safe to say he's a pretty durable guy in spite of his poor record.

Might be, but he hasn't fought nobody either, and clearly isn't on the same level as Jack. You think Jack would have been stopped against his opponents?

No

PsychoGamerTwo wrote:

gilgamesh wrote:

PsychoGamerTwo wrote:
Might be, but he hasn't fought nobody either, and clearly isn't on the same level as Jack. You think Jack would have been stopped against his opponents?

No

For the record. When I say that I think Bivol is going to beat Badou Jack this isn't me saying that I think Badou Jack sucks. It's me saying that I think Dmitry Bivol is a solid young talent, and is capable of beating good fighters.

I heard they're not likely to fight next. Bivol is on the Monte Carlo show in Nov.

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:I heard they're not likely to fight next. Bivol is on the Monte Carlo show in Nov.

Who's he fighting in Monte Carlo? Probably the dreaded TBA for now huh?

asdfjkl wrote:Kovalev will allways rule above Ward, we have all clearly and easely seen that.

Put that crack pipe down, it'll give you a migraine.

keithmoonhangover wrote:

asdfjkl wrote:Kovalev will allways rule above Ward, we have all clearly and easely seen that.

Put that crack pipe down, it'll give you a migraine.

Never used it, watch the fights plz...

asdfjkl wrote:

keithmoonhangover wrote:

asdfjkl wrote:Kovalev will allways rule above Ward, we have all clearly and easely seen that.

Put that crack pipe down, it'll give you a migraine.

Never used it, watch the fights plz...

I did and Ward won them both. But then you can't spell easily.