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Cent0089 wrote:is there some negotiations about that fight? :O :O

jezzamundo wrote:

ClivePatrickLyons wrote:

boxing_rocks wrote:No, he wasn't

NO HE WAS'NT BECAUSE HE WON AGAINST GGG THEN WE SEE GGG GET ROBBED AGAINST CANELO THATS THE TRUTH

As long as you know you are in the minority in that belief - about 70% of people had GGG winning. Looking at the fight in its entirety, it's hard to argue agaisnt GGG - he was the defending champion, threw 74 more punches, landed 56 more punches and scored the only knockdown in the fight. Of course, boxing is scored round-by-round which is why it's a close fight, as GGG won his rounds by a larger margin than Jacobs did. The commentary you watch can have an influence on how you see the fight too - the UK broadcast had Jacobs winning the first three rounds, I think HBO (and Harold Lederman) did a much better job with the scoring of that fight (Lederman had it even going into the 12th, which GGG clearly won). Keep in mind that with the KD, GGG only needed to win five other rounds in the fight to get the nod. He clearly won the 5th, 9th and 12th rounds, Jacobs clearly won the 6th, 7th and 10th and 11th rounds. The swing rounds in this fight are the 1st, 2nd, 3rd and 8th. Give these all to Jacobs and you've got it 115-112 Jacobs, give them all to GGG and it's 116-111 GGG - that's as wide in either direction as you ca have it. Personally I think GGG edged the 1st, 2nd and 8th while Jacobs won the 3rd, which results in a 115-112 scorecard in GGG's favour. I could see Jacobs being given the 2nd, which closes it to a 114-113 win to GGG.

Whichever way you slice it, it's a damn close fight, but the majority of the public believes the right man got the nod. Saying you had Jacobs winning is absolutely fine, but simply stating that Jacobs won is wrong IMO.

jezzamundo wrote:

ClivePatrickLyons wrote:

boxing_rocks wrote:No, he wasn't

NO HE WAS'NT BECAUSE HE WON AGAINST GGG THEN WE SEE GGG GET ROBBED AGAINST CANELO THATS THE TRUTH

As long as you know you are in the minority in that belief - about 70% of people had GGG winning. Looking at the fight in its entirety, it's hard to argue agaisnt GGG - he was the defending champion, threw 74 more punches, landed 56 more punches and scored the only knockdown in the fight. Of course, boxing is scored round-by-round which is why it's a close fight, as GGG won his rounds by a larger margin than Jacobs did. The commentary you watch can have an influence on how you see the fight too - the UK broadcast had Jacobs winning the first three rounds, I think HBO (and Harold Lederman) did a much better job with the scoring of that fight (Lederman had it even going into the 12th, which GGG clearly won). Keep in mind that with the KD, GGG only needed to win five other rounds in the fight to get the nod. He clearly won the 5th, 9th and 12th rounds, Jacobs clearly won the 6th, 7th and 10th and 11th rounds. The swing rounds in this fight are the 1st, 2nd, 3rd and 8th. Give these all to Jacobs and you've got it 115-112 Jacobs, give them all to GGG and it's 116-111 GGG - that's as wide in either direction as you ca have it. Personally I think GGG edged the 1st, 2nd and 8th while Jacobs won the 3rd, which results in a 115-112 scorecard in GGG's favour. I could see Jacobs being given the 2nd, which closes it to a 114-113 win to GGG.

Whichever way you slice it, it's a damn close fight, but the majority of the public believes the right man got the nod. Saying you had Jacobs winning is absolutely fine, but simply stating that Jacobs won is wrong IMO.

ClivePatrickLyons wrote:

jezzamundo wrote:

ClivePatrickLyons wrote:

NO HE WAS'NT BECAUSE HE WON AGAINST GGG THEN WE SEE GGG GET ROBBED AGAINST CANELO THATS THE TRUTH

As long as you know you are in the minority in that belief - about 70% of people had GGG winning. Looking at the fight in its entirety, it's hard to argue agaisnt GGG - he was the defending champion, threw 74 more punches, landed 56 more punches and scored the only knockdown in the fight. Of course, boxing is scored round-by-round which is why it's a close fight, as GGG won his rounds by a larger margin than Jacobs did. The commentary you watch can have an influence on how you see the fight too - the UK broadcast had Jacobs winning the first three rounds, I think HBO (and Harold Lederman) did a much better job with the scoring of that fight (Lederman had it even going into the 12th, which GGG clearly won). Keep in mind that with the KD, GGG only needed to win five other rounds in the fight to get the nod. He clearly won the 5th, 9th and 12th rounds, Jacobs clearly won the 6th, 7th and 10th and 11th rounds. The swing rounds in this fight are the 1st, 2nd, 3rd and 8th. Give these all to Jacobs and you've got it 115-112 Jacobs, give them all to GGG and it's 116-111 GGG - that's as wide in either direction as you ca have it. Personally I think GGG edged the 1st, 2nd and 8th while Jacobs won the 3rd, which results in a 115-112 scorecard in GGG's favour. I could see Jacobs being given the 2nd, which closes it to a 114-113 win to GGG.

Whichever way you slice it, it's a damn close fight, but the majority of the public believes the right man got the nod. Saying you had Jacobs winning is absolutely fine, but simply stating that Jacobs won is wrong IMO.

I'M A BOXING FAN Jacobs won the fight from my view I watched the fight with the sound turned down I had him winning so do I say he lost so what did you say you talk like what you says the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth ITS MY OPINION GGG LOST AGAINST JACOBS SO THATS WHY I SAID HE WON

ClivePatrickLyons wrote:

jezzamundo wrote:

ClivePatrickLyons wrote:

NO HE WAS'NT BECAUSE HE WON AGAINST GGG THEN WE SEE GGG GET ROBBED AGAINST CANELO THATS THE TRUTH

As long as you know you are in the minority in that belief - about 70% of people had GGG winning. Looking at the fight in its entirety, it's hard to argue agaisnt GGG - he was the defending champion, threw 74 more punches, landed 56 more punches and scored the only knockdown in the fight. Of course, boxing is scored round-by-round which is why it's a close fight, as GGG won his rounds by a larger margin than Jacobs did. The commentary you watch can have an influence on how you see the fight too - the UK broadcast had Jacobs winning the first three rounds, I think HBO (and Harold Lederman) did a much better job with the scoring of that fight (Lederman had it even going into the 12th, which GGG clearly won). Keep in mind that with the KD, GGG only needed to win five other rounds in the fight to get the nod. He clearly won the 5th, 9th and 12th rounds, Jacobs clearly won the 6th, 7th and 10th and 11th rounds. The swing rounds in this fight are the 1st, 2nd, 3rd and 8th. Give these all to Jacobs and you've got it 115-112 Jacobs, give them all to GGG and it's 116-111 GGG - that's as wide in either direction as you ca have it. Personally I think GGG edged the 1st, 2nd and 8th while Jacobs won the 3rd, which results in a 115-112 scorecard in GGG's favour. I could see Jacobs being given the 2nd, which closes it to a 114-113 win to GGG.

Whichever way you slice it, it's a damn close fight, but the majority of the public believes the right man got the nod. Saying you had Jacobs winning is absolutely fine, but simply stating that Jacobs won is wrong IMO.

Where the hell did you get that 70% from PLEASE SHOW ME AND WHO ARE THE MAJORITY PLEASE SHOW ME WHAT YOUR SAYING IS'NT SOMETHING YOUR IMAGINATION MADE UP TO HELP YOU WITH YOUR POINT OF VIEW YOU SHOULD PRACTICE WHAT YOU ARE PREACHING TO ME ABOUT WHO WON WHAT AND WHEN

jezzamundo wrote:This website had 68.4% of fans giving it to GGG, 26.3% to Jacobs and 5.4% a draw.

http://mmadecisions.com/decision/7873/G ... nny-Jacobs

Here are some press scores supplied by BoxRec:

http://boxrec.com/media/index.php/Genna ... iel_Jacobs

This poll has 62% for GGG, 29% for Jacobs and 9% a draw:

https://www.badlefthook.com/2017/3/19/1 ... -the-fight

My 70% figure was mostly from polls I've seen on this site. I was hoping to find a big set of media scorecards but was unable to do so. So perhaps a little under 70%, but I am still correct in saying you are in the minority who had Jacobs winning. Not that any of this makes you wrong - you are entitled to your own opinion and it was a close enough fight that it is reasonable to score it either way.

ClivePatrickLyons wrote:

jezzamundo wrote:This website had 68.4% of fans giving it to GGG, 26.3% to Jacobs and 5.4% a draw.

http://mmadecisions.com/decision/7873/G ... nny-Jacobs

Here are some press scores supplied by BoxRec:

http://boxrec.com/media/index.php/Genna ... iel_Jacobs

This poll has 62% for GGG, 29% for Jacobs and 9% a draw:

https://www.badlefthook.com/2017/3/19/1 ... -the-fight

My 70% figure was mostly from polls I've seen on this site. I was hoping to find a big set of media scorecards but was unable to do so. So perhaps a little under 70%, but I am still correct in saying you are in the minority who had Jacobs winning. Not that any of this makes you wrong - you are entitled to your own opinion and it was a close enough fight that it is reasonable to score it either way.

jezzamundo wrote:

ClivePatrickLyons wrote:

jezzamundo wrote:This website had 68.4% of fans giving it to GGG, 26.3% to Jacobs and 5.4% a draw.

http://mmadecisions.com/decision/7873/G ... nny-Jacobs

Here are some press scores supplied by BoxRec:

http://boxrec.com/media/index.php/Genna ... iel_Jacobs

This poll has 62% for GGG, 29% for Jacobs and 9% a draw:

https://www.badlefthook.com/2017/3/19/1 ... -the-fight

My 70% figure was mostly from polls I've seen on this site. I was hoping to find a big set of media scorecards but was unable to do so. So perhaps a little under 70%, but I am still correct in saying you are in the minority who had Jacobs winning. Not that any of this makes you wrong - you are entitled to your own opinion and it was a close enough fight that it is reasonable to score it either way.

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ClivePatrickLyons wrote:

jezzamundo wrote:

ClivePatrickLyons wrote:

Not sure what you mean by this, but hi!

YOU KNOW WHAT WILL DO IT THE PUNCH STAT''S

Enlightened-One wrote: Also, Golovkin was clearly at his very best against Canelo

pizzakid13 wrote:

Enlightened-One wrote:It's easy to favour Daniel Jacobs for two reasons: he's naturally bigger than Canelo; and he was more effective against GGG.

However, there are subplots that need to be considered...

Daniel Jacobs was a massive underdog for his bout against GGG and the American hadn't previously shown anything truly impressive other than the Quillin KO. So there's a question mark over Gennady's attitude when he took the Jacobs fight, such as: did he underestimate his opponent? Many people from this forum clearly did.

Also, Golovkin was clearly at his very best against Canelo, because it was the biggest fight of his career. So did that mean that Alvarez faced a better version of Golovkin than Jacobs did?

People probably fancy Jacobs to wipe the floor with Canelo, but I'm not so sure. It'll be a tough fight and the Mexican has got an incredibly sturdy beard.

If Canelo can up his workrate, he is capable of defeating Jacobs by decision.

I think the opposite about ggg. He was gassed early and very cautious.