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Re: Pulev vs. Joshua Oct. 28th

Posted: 07 Oct 2017, 08:09
by candyslim
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Has pulev ever been in an entertaining fight?
Pulev has only average power by top contender standards, a very good jab by any standards, good defensive skills, decent mobility, and a very good chin. Those qualities taken as a package, don't tend to make for too many barnstormers.

On the plus side, when was the last time you were bored during a Joshua fight?

Re: Pulev vs. Joshua Oct. 28th

Posted: 07 Oct 2017, 08:36
by SaadOffTheDeck
Riddick Blowe wrote:Joshua stoppage inside 3.
Thinking along these lines too. Pulev is too slow to stink it out, I imagine he'll just go for it and pay the price.

Re: Pulev vs. Joshua Oct. 28th

Posted: 07 Oct 2017, 09:21
by Badhusker
Pulev is a decent boxer, but will be no match for Joshua. He didn't even make the half way point with Wlad. Even if AJ beats the piss out of him Pulev will probably say he got lucky, as he did when Wlad beat him.

Re: Pulev vs. Joshua Oct. 28th

Posted: 07 Oct 2017, 17:13
by Bard of Boxrec
candyslim wrote:
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Has pulev ever been in an entertaining fight?
Pulev has only average power by top contender standards, a very good jab by any standards, good defensive skills, decent mobility, and a very good chin. Those qualities taken as a package, don't tend to make for too many barnstormers.

On the plus side, when was the last time you were bored during a Joshua fight?
Pulev's defensive skills consist of him sticking his face in the air.

Re: Pulev vs. Joshua Oct. 28th

Posted: 07 Oct 2017, 17:25
by jamamb
aj can win this whenever he wants. if he comes out unloading hell win in the first.

Re: Pulev vs. Joshua Oct. 28th

Posted: 07 Oct 2017, 18:18
by candyslim
Riddick Blowe wrote:
candyslim wrote:
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Has pulev ever been in an entertaining fight?
Pulev has only average power by top contender standards, a very good jab by any standards, good defensive skills, decent mobility, and a very good chin. Those qualities taken as a package, don't tend to make for too many barnstormers.

On the plus side, when was the last time you were bored during a Joshua fight?
Pulev's defensive skills consist of him sticking his face in the air.
I've watched a few of his fights recently and admittedly he was getting away with taking a few liberties that I fully expect Joshua to punish like Klitschko did. What really surprised me though that I wasn't expecting to see, was his very effective body punching but whether he'll get a chance to go on the offensive against AJ is another question entirely.

Re: Pulev vs. Joshua Oct. 28th

Posted: 08 Oct 2017, 04:00
by Ossyrules
Pulver is a good boxer and does the basics well for a heavyweight. Jab, right, move. He’s just not on the level of Joshua or Wlad. Anyone else in the division, not including fury, he would probably be 50% chance winner. If he fought Parker he’d be world champion.

Heavy division as ever is light on depth. This is a decent opponent all things considered

Re: Pulev vs. Joshua Oct. 28th

Posted: 08 Oct 2017, 17:55
by SenorPipino
x2x wrote:The bookies have Joshua a 20-1 favorite which is stupid because Pulev is going to win!
I've seen odds of 40-1, which seems about right.

If Pulev showed his true stock against Klitschko, then he ain't going to win.

Re: Pulev vs. Joshua Oct. 28th

Posted: 08 Oct 2017, 18:28
by tiny_acres
:zzz:
SenorPipino wrote:
x2x wrote:The bookies have Joshua a 20-1 favorite which is stupid because Pulev is going to win!
I've seen odds of 40-1, which seems about right.

If Pulev showed his true stock against Klitschko, then he ain't going to win.
40-1 sounds about right. I don't give Pulev much if any chance

Re: Pulev vs. Joshua Oct. 28th

Posted: 09 Oct 2017, 23:56
by Ilya Muromets
candyslim wrote:
x2x wrote:Why so little interest in a heavyweight championship fight? I'm predicting a big upset. Don't forget, you heard it here first!
I won't forget and I will be among those to congratulate you in the unlikely event you are proved to be correct.

Thank you. I am getting ready for all my congratulations and press photos and interviews already.

PS You posted a good analysis above.

Re: Pulev vs. Joshua Oct. 28th

Posted: 10 Oct 2017, 00:17
by jamamb
pulev will be like a fly. best he can possibly do is annoy aj a bit before aj decides to swat him aside. big victory for pulev even if he just goes past 5. josh could do a one round job if he feels like it.

Re: Pulev vs. Joshua Oct. 28th

Posted: 11 Oct 2017, 21:14
by Badhusker
I would have much rather seen Joshua vs Ortiz, his other mandatory. I guess taking the seemingly easier one makes sense if it is a sure win. Joshua wouldn't even mention Ortiz's name..ever. I find that odd, especially because AJ claimed he wanted only the best fights, and didn't care about belts. Not ready for Ortiz? Guess we will never know now that Ortiz has pissed dirty again.

Re: Pulev vs. Joshua Oct. 28th

Posted: 11 Oct 2017, 21:24
by punchoutsb
Badhusker wrote:I would have much rather seen Joshua vs Ortiz, his other mandatory. I guess taking the seemingly easier one makes sense if it is a sure win. Joshua wouldn't even mention Ortiz's name..ever. I find that odd, especially because AJ claimed he wanted only the best fights, and didn't care about belts. Not ready for Ortiz? Guess we will never know now that Ortiz has pissed dirty again.
Pulev is a bigger fight than Ortiz.

Re: Pulev vs. Joshua Oct. 28th

Posted: 11 Oct 2017, 21:43
by Nightmare Roy
tiny_acres wrote::zzz:
SenorPipino wrote:
x2x wrote:The bookies have Joshua a 20-1 favorite which is stupid because Pulev is going to win!
I've seen odds of 40-1, which seems about right.

If Pulev showed his true stock against Klitschko, then he ain't going to win.
40-1 sounds about right. I don't give Pulev much if any chance
If I can get forties in the local bookies I might waste a tenner in it, can't see him being able to hurt AJ in the slightest though to be honest. AJ inside 3

Re: Pulev vs. Joshua Oct. 28th

Posted: 12 Oct 2017, 00:09
by Tanzio
Pulev could potentially give AJ some problems. If he can survive early while getting AJ to gas, Pulev could make it a fight late. It is likely that Pulev will go down and stay down in the first half though.

If I was a bettor I would put $100 on Pulev at 20 or better to 1 for the hell of it. AJ has a track record of being hurt while people concentrate on his real or perceived stamina issues.

No matter what some say, Pulev is a legit challenger to the crown.

Re: Pulev vs. Joshua Oct. 28th

Posted: 12 Oct 2017, 00:57
by Bard of Boxrec
Tanzio wrote:
No matter what some say, Pulev is a legit challenger to the crown.
Only relative to how shallow the division is.

Re: Pulev vs. Joshua Oct. 28th

Posted: 12 Oct 2017, 00:59
by gilgamesh
Riddick Blowe wrote:
Tanzio wrote:
No matter what some say, Pulev is a legit challenger to the crown.
Only relative to how shallow the division is.
Yeah. In several Heavyweight eras Pulev wouldn't be Top 20.

Re: Pulev vs. Joshua Oct. 28th

Posted: 12 Oct 2017, 01:11
by Tanzio
gilgamesh wrote:
Riddick Blowe wrote:
Tanzio wrote:
No matter what some say, Pulev is a legit challenger to the crown.
Only relative to how shallow the division is.
Yeah. In several Heavyweight eras Pulev wouldn't be Top 20.
I disagree.

Re: Pulev vs. Joshua Oct. 28th

Posted: 12 Oct 2017, 01:12
by gilgamesh
Tanzio wrote:
gilgamesh wrote:
Riddick Blowe wrote: Only relative to how shallow the division is.
Yeah. In several Heavyweight eras Pulev wouldn't be Top 20.
I disagree.
Ok. I don't see why. Pulev hasn't done anything even in this era to be considered particularly good, but if you want to believe he's that good go for it.

Re: Pulev vs. Joshua Oct. 28th

Posted: 12 Oct 2017, 01:23
by Tanzio
gilgamesh wrote:
Tanzio wrote:
gilgamesh wrote:
Yeah. In several Heavyweight eras Pulev wouldn't be Top 20.
I disagree.
Ok. I don't see why. Pulev hasn't done anything even in this era to be considered particularly good, but if you want to believe he's that good go for it.
"That good" is relative. I think that he is good enough to be in the top 20 of almost every year. Eras are a bit vague. When do they begin and end?

Re: Pulev vs. Joshua Oct. 28th

Posted: 12 Oct 2017, 08:57
by candyslim
x2x wrote:Thank you. I am getting ready for all my congratulations and press photos and interviews already.

PS You posted a good analysis above.
Kind of you to say so x2x.
Badhusker wrote:I would have much rather seen Joshua vs Ortiz, his other mandatory. I guess taking the seemingly easier one makes sense if it is a sure win. Joshua wouldn't even mention Ortiz's name..ever. I find that odd, especially because AJ claimed he wanted only the best fights, and didn't care about belts. Not ready for Ortiz? Guess we will never know now that Ortiz has pissed dirty again.
Give the man a break bh. Ortiz was going to be his next fight and Pulev was his mandatory much longer than Ortiz. If AJ had wanted a slightly easier opponent (still top 6 don't forget) hadn't he earned that by beating the man?

I think you make too much of his comment that he didn't care about the belts. I might say quite truthfully that money is of no consequence compared to the health of yourself and your loved ones. That doesn't mean I'm planning to give it all away or that I wouldn't appreciate a bit more of it.

Re: Pulev vs. Joshua Oct. 28th

Posted: 12 Oct 2017, 14:54
by Ilya Muromets
candyslim wrote:
x2x wrote:Thank you. I am getting ready for all my congratulations and press photos and interviews already.

PS You posted a good analysis above.
Kind of you to say so x2x.


Please don't mention it. I've been worrying over how I should dress for the post fight tv interviews when they ask me how I knew that Pulev would KO Joshua. I'm not sure what kind of flower to wear in my lapel, a petunia or a posy?

Re: Pulev vs. Joshua Oct. 28th

Posted: 12 Oct 2017, 15:02
by KiwiRider
Riddick Blowe wrote:
Tanzio wrote:
No matter what some say, Pulev is a legit challenger to the crown.
Only relative to how shallow the division is.
I've been watching boxing only since the 70's so I don't know what it was like pre '75 but from my memoy there is usually only about 5 guys in the 'A' level HW division. The only difference from then to now is that those top 5 guys would fight each other regularly. Now we only get to speculate how they would go againts each other :brick:

Re: Pulev vs. Joshua Oct. 28th

Posted: 12 Oct 2017, 21:00
by Kalan
greg wrote:
x2x wrote:Joshua sparring with Helenius

Image
..Helenius looks bigger that I expected, kinda dwarfs Joshua..
Joshua weighed 250 for his last and most important fight... Nobody in the top 10 dwarfs the man... Helenius weighed 239 for his last fight.

Fury would look a lot bigger than Joshua right now... But is that because he's a lot bigger or because he packed on 100 pounds of blubber???

Helenius is also standing a lot closer to the camera... I think Joshua does some of these things strategically so he's not too big a favorite or blown out of proportion... He doesn't want anything like the Joe Louis "Bum of the Month Club" where it got boring because he was always such a huge favorite.

Re: Pulev vs. Joshua Oct. 28th

Posted: 13 Oct 2017, 03:53
by candyslim
x2x wrote:
candyslim wrote:
x2x wrote:Thank you. I am getting ready for all my congratulations and press photos and interviews already.

PS You posted a good analysis above.
Kind of you to say so x2x.


Please don't mention it. I've been worrying over how I should dress for the post fight tv interviews when they ask me how I knew that Pulev would KO Joshua. I'm not sure what kind of flower to wear in my lapel, a petunia or a posy?
I have a feeling you're going to be more worried about the egg on your face and how you're going to cope with a diet of eating crow and humble pie :D

Not long to wait now