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Re: TRUTH ON LUIS ORTIZ POSITIVE TEST

Posted: 04 Oct 2017, 06:59
by caldo2025
The better question is how much did Conte get paid for this pathetic performance. Don't tell me that this is just coming from the kindness of his heart...how does Conte know that Ortiz is this "very intelligent, genius" of a guy". Something smells.

Ortiz could very well be telling the truth and this could be an honest omission from his declaration of medication but in my book when a boxer gets nabbed for PEDS on multiple occasions in their past then they lose their mulligan for anything in the future. If it were his first offense, i'd let it go. 3rd? No...there are no mistakes at that point...it's deliberate.

Re: TRUTH ON LUIS ORTIZ POSITIVE TEST

Posted: 04 Oct 2017, 08:59
by asdfjkl
FastestHandsInThewest wrote:He's a cheater.
This is the sad thing, casuals and newboys actually believe the media, while everybody who knows just a tiny bit from the boxing world knows Wilder got Vada in his pocket and can make anyone he wants to avoid test positive.

Everybody involved knows Povetkin is innocent, just like Ortiz.

Re: TRUTH ON LUIS ORTIZ POSITIVE TEST

Posted: 04 Oct 2017, 09:03
by montrealsuper
asdfjkl wrote:
FastestHandsInThewest wrote:He's a cheater.
This is the sad thing, casuals and newboys actually believe the media, while everybody who knows just a tiny bit from the boxing world knows Wilder got Vada in his pocket and can make anyone he wants to avoid test positive.

Everybody involved knows Povetkin is innocent, just like Ortiz.
Correction. It's Haymon who bought Vada and USada. Wilder is just his fraud puppet pretender along for the ride.

Re: TRUTH ON LUIS ORTIZ POSITIVE TEST

Posted: 04 Oct 2017, 09:11
by candyslim
I don't care about frigging chemistry. I care about boxing. Guilty or not guilty I just want to see the firkin fight !!! :brick:

I know that's probably not a very responsible attitude but I'm so firkin bored of all this shite !

Re: TRUTH ON LUIS ORTIZ POSITIVE TEST

Posted: 04 Oct 2017, 14:43
by crow
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Why doesn't Conte explain to us what "Losartan/HCTZ" stands for?
It's not just "Losartan" as he says in his video.

An honest mistake?

Re: TRUTH ON LUIS ORTIZ POSITIVE TEST

Posted: 04 Oct 2017, 15:28
by boxing_rocks
https://www.webmd.com/drugs/2/drug-2626 ... al/details

HCTZ is just abbreviation for Losartan actual substance, Hydrochlorothiazide.

Re: TRUTH ON LUIS ORTIZ POSITIVE TEST

Posted: 04 Oct 2017, 15:49
by crow
boxing_rocks wrote:https://www.webmd.com/drugs/2/drug-2626 ... al/details

HCTZ is just abbreviation for Losartan actual substance, Hydrochlorothiazide.
:doh:

Well, would that be the Hydrochlorothiazide listed on https://www.wada-ama.org/en/prohibited- ... ing-agents?

But Conte just said he didn't take it.

It must be a mistake, lol lol. :lol:

Re: TRUTH ON LUIS ORTIZ POSITIVE TEST

Posted: 04 Oct 2017, 17:31
by greg
crow wrote:
But Conte just said he didn't take it.

It must be a mistake, lol lol. :lol:
:lol: Conte definitely knows his way around movers and shakers, givers and takers..

Re: TRUTH ON LUIS ORTIZ POSITIVE TEST

Posted: 06 Oct 2017, 07:01
by FastestHandsInThewest
asdfjkl wrote:
FastestHandsInThewest wrote:He's a cheater.
This is the sad thing, casuals and newboys actually believe the media, while everybody who knows just a tiny bit from the boxing world knows Wilder got Vada in his pocket and can make anyone he wants to avoid test positive.

Everybody involved knows Povetkin is innocent, just like Ortiz.
Why would he avoid Ortiz he would most likely beat him. You have no credibility.

Re: TRUTH ON LUIS ORTIZ POSITIVE TEST

Posted: 06 Oct 2017, 11:20
by asdfjkl
FastestHandsInThewest wrote:
asdfjkl wrote:
FastestHandsInThewest wrote:He's a cheater.
This is the sad thing, casuals and newboys actually believe the media, while everybody who knows just a tiny bit from the boxing world knows Wilder got Vada in his pocket and can make anyone he wants to avoid test positive.

Everybody involved knows Povetkin is innocent, just like Ortiz.
Why would he avoid Ortiz he would most likely beat him. You have no credibility.
Do you actually believe this or are you just trolling?
It's not like I predict such a story randomly months and months beforehand, with correct names and almost perfect dates and details like this.