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jamamb wrote:fighting bums doesnt do much. eubank had fought no one. never been past 8.

saunders had fought ryder, spike, fletcher, blackwell, blandamur, hall,etc. been twelve many times. already commonwealth, british, lonsdale, euro champ. fought for it all beneath world title level.

totally different levels of pro and amateur experience. eubank deciding to take the fight doesnt mean he had been tested. what a stupid notion that is.

Eubank was ready to step up from bums. No he got hustled. Those guys you listed are all British level. He wasn’t a seasoned vet

Be real

eubank was already close to bjs DESPITE not having the experience. your really stupid if you think that fight being made means that they were equally experienced and tested and at same point in development.

bjs fought waaaay better opposition than eubank did. tell me eubanks three best opponents before that fight. tell me what the most rounds hed done was.

jamamb wrote:eubank was already close to bjs DESPITE not having the experience. your really stupid if you think that fight being made means that they were equally experienced and tested and at same point in development.

bjs fought waaaay better opposition than eubank did. tell me eubanks three best opponents before that fight. tell me what the most rounds hed done was.

If you can show me where I said they were equally experienced then I’d like to hear it.

I said eubank was ready to step up to Saunders, who was proven at British level at that point.

He had 18 fights and chased the Saunders fight. There’s only so long anyone can go on fighting bums before they step up, funny thing is he went back to bums ever since

You get one more chance to come back with a balanced response

your trying to make the experience a wash. you started by saying that bjs was inexperienced too so mentioning eubank's lack of experience was just fanboy crap. you dont remember your own points.

bjs way more experienced and prepared, as amateur and pro. tell me the three best opponents eubank fought. we can compare them to bjs opposition.

jamamb wrote:your trying to make the experience a wash. you started by saying that bjs was inexperienced too so mentioning eubank's lack of experience was just fanboy crap. you dont remember your own points.

bjs way more experienced and prepared, as amateur and pro. tell me the three best opponents eubank fought. we can compare them to bjs opposition.

Saunders was still relatively inexperienced when they fought. He fought 2 more bouts. To his credit he’d been put in against British level opponents.

You failed at the balance response test. I’m not even a Saunders fan, think he’s shite and a fake champion. But you are clearly a eubank groupie so I’ll let you crack on

why dont u name eubanks three best opponents before the fight. you keep avoiding it.

jamamb wrote:why dont u name eubanks three best opponents before the fight. you keep avoiding it.

His best 3 opponents of his whole career is shite, so it’ll be shite before Saunders.

He stepped up, got beat, resumed fighting dregs from then on

Checking out now it’s pointless debating with fanboys

once again you fail to name it. that just makes it looks like you know it hurts your argument. saunders was much better prepared for that fight.

since then eubank fought abraham, chudinov, spike, and blackwell. that's not that bad. avni is probably a top 15 super middle too. if he wins he will probably have groves. i think he will break down groves.

jamamb wrote:once again you fail to name it. that just makes it looks like you know it hurts your argument. saunders was much better prepared for that fight.

since then eubank fought abraham, chudinov, spike, and blackwell. that's not that bad. avni is probably a top 15 super middle too. if he wins he will probably have groves. i think he will break down groves.

There’s no point naming it’s all rubbish

Abraham shot to pieces but used to be a handful. Junior has been well matched, vs slow basic skilled plodders. All made for him stylistically.

I back groves to outclass him. I respect junior is good but he’s fought only 1 live boxer and got beat. That live boxer was only proven at British standard as well

saunders was already european champion

Ossyrules wrote:

jamamb wrote:once again you fail to name it. that just makes it looks like you know it hurts your argument. saunders was much better prepared for that fight.

since then eubank fought abraham, chudinov, spike, and blackwell. that's not that bad. avni is probably a top 15 super middle too. if he wins he will probably have groves. i think he will break down groves.

There’s no point naming it’s all rubbish

Abraham shot to pieces but used to be a handful. Junior has been well matched, vs slow basic skilled plodders. All made for him stylistically.

I back groves to outclass him. I respect junior is good but he’s fought only 1 live boxer and got beat. That live boxer was only proven at British standard as well

You would have to agree he gets better every fight though, Ozzy?
I know he goes on about how he is a puncher, and we both know it isn't so, but the sheer volume of punches almost makes up for it. If he dosent get knocked out then every opponent is in for a tough night.
I really don't like the guy, but I do admire his level of fitness and incremental improvements

Chris is a nice kid but he's in a division where there's no real big names that will make him world class respected unless he kicks it off with Ramirez or DeGale.
There's perhaps Groves which would buy him some attention, Smith or a rematch with BJS.
In terms of core ability Chris is lacking in certain fields but due to his name gets attention in the UK which is ok but he's gotta back it up and can't rely on an over the hill Abraham to get noticed.
I think Eubank's people know he's limited but they also probably know he could be involved in some entertaining fights which lead to decent paydays, but Chris has to be willing to start taking chances as hype is only taking him so far.

Been following Avni since his career started. He was my Prospect of the year in 2015. He is a stalker so he will bring pressure for 12... Eubank will have to deal with constant pressure, control the boundary of the pocket and show good stamina... otherwise he is getting outworked.

Evander wrote:Chris is a nice kid

Nice kids don't put a guy in a coma, then in their very next fight jump around laughing while their opponents still on the canvas, out to it.
Nice kids touch gloves at the refs insistance, they don't refuse and sneer at the opponent.
Nice kids don't threaten to kill their opponents in interviews.

He is a prize, self centred arse. So full of himself I will laugh the day he gets his just desserts.

KiwiRider wrote:

Ossyrules wrote:

jamamb wrote:once again you fail to name it. that just makes it looks like you know it hurts your argument. saunders was much better prepared for that fight.

since then eubank fought abraham, chudinov, spike, and blackwell. that's not that bad. avni is probably a top 15 super middle too. if he wins he will probably have groves. i think he will break down groves.

There’s no point naming it’s all rubbish

Abraham shot to pieces but used to be a handful. Junior has been well matched, vs slow basic skilled plodders. All made for him stylistically.

I back groves to outclass him. I respect junior is good but he’s fought only 1 live boxer and got beat. That live boxer was only proven at British standard as well

You would have to agree he gets better every fight though, Ozzy?
I know he goes on about how he is a puncher, and we both know it isn't so, but the sheer volume of punches almost makes up for it. If he dosent get knocked out then every opponent is in for a tough night.
I really don't like the guy, but I do admire his level of fitness and incremental improvements

I’d be surprised if he hadn’t improved in the ten odd fights he’s had since Saunders, but we’ll find out when he fights a live opponent.

It’s a shame he shat out of the golovkin fight

Ossyrules wrote:

KiwiRider wrote:

Ossyrules wrote:
There’s no point naming it’s all rubbish

Abraham shot to pieces but used to be a handful. Junior has been well matched, vs slow basic skilled plodders. All made for him stylistically.

I back groves to outclass him. I respect junior is good but he’s fought only 1 live boxer and got beat. That live boxer was only proven at British standard as well

You would have to agree he gets better every fight though, Ozzy?
I know he goes on about how he is a puncher, and we both know it isn't so, but the sheer volume of punches almost makes up for it. If he dosent get knocked out then every opponent is in for a tough night.
I really don't like the guy, but I do admire his level of fitness and incremental improvements

I’d be surprised if he hadn’t improved in the ten odd fights he’s had since Saunders, but we’ll find out when he fights a live opponent.

It’s a shame he shat out of the golovkin fight

I'm not surprised he didn't have a go at GGG, he just isn't ready.

I thought eubank beat saunders. Never seen this guy.

TheBeast wrote:Been following Avni since his career started. He was my Prospect of the year in 2015. He is a stalker so he will bring pressure for 12... Eubank will have to deal with constant pressure, control the boundary of the pocket and show good stamina... otherwise he is getting outworked.

Eubank is the favorite of this fight but I have the feeling Jr won't look so good and his rating is gonna drop after this fight.

KiwiRider wrote:

Ossyrules wrote:

KiwiRider wrote: You would have to agree he gets better every fight though, Ozzy?
I know he goes on about how he is a puncher, and we both know it isn't so, but the sheer volume of punches almost makes up for it. If he dosent get knocked out then every opponent is in for a tough night.
I really don't like the guy, but I do admire his level of fitness and incremental improvements

I’d be surprised if he hadn’t improved in the ten odd fights he’s had since Saunders, but we’ll find out when he fights a live opponent.

It’s a shame he shat out of the golovkin fight

I'm not surprised he didn't have a go at GGG, he just isn't ready.

He was ready to challenge for world titles again, that’s rubbish kiwi.

A real war of attrition coming up. If Eubank can match (or even top) his form against Abraham then he will be too much for Yildirim. Eubanks relentless pace reminds me of the young Barry McGuigan.

Avni will not even be able to match the pre-fight performance of his manager of Ahmet Oner.

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/www.dailym ... urage.html

Thomastearns wrote:A real war of attrition coming up. If Eubank can match (or even top) his form against Abraham then he will be too much for Yildirim. Eubanks relentless pace reminds me of the young Barry McGuigan.

Avni will not even be able to match the pre-fight performance of his manager of Ahmet Oner.

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/www.dailym ... urage.html

Funny thing is Yldirim has better wins than Jr. Yldirim fought in 2015 Glen Johnson which is a better win than a boxing bag like A.A and of course Periban who is a better win than Renold Quinlan.

Eubank will fight on the run for 12 so he doesn't get injured or cut. Do not expect him to go for a ko. Eubank UD is a good bet in this

apollo creed wrote:

FastestHandsInThewest wrote:

apollo creed wrote:
I think Jr's power is almost identical with Willie Monroe Jr's power.

Ehh I don't see it.

Yeah it's practically non-existent.

Oh, it's there.

jamamb wrote:

FastestHandsInThewest wrote:

apollo creed wrote:
I think Jr's power is almost identical with Willie Monroe Jr's power.

Ehh I don't see it.

not that much of a puncher. a workrate guy who overwhelms and stops by landings loads. great engine and speed. seems to have good chin. fought half a fight as inexperienced guy against bjs, and still almost won and was ragdolling him in the end. now he fights from the start and jabs more.

eubank is a top talent and will make a good fighter in avni look like a bum. ppl underrating avni just because hes not a big name and to make eubanks win not look as good. ppl love to hate him.

I think he is a puncher, he is a boxer after all.

Puncher = a boxer who has top power, compared to other boxers in his division.

eubank stops his decent opponents with loads of volume. there isnt really a showing of overwhelming pop at any high level.