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Re: Dave Allen vs Lenroy Thomas II - Who wins?
Posted: 19 Oct 2017, 16:51
by jamamb
mate so why havent they already been getting world title fights then? being commonwealth champ isnt selling point at all for a world title fight. get real. they arent close to world title. allen is fighting dallases and howes and thomases lately. thomas is just a guy used for prospects to beat and hes no draw at all. you think hearn is gonna be promoting him on his cards against guys who arent his fighters?
clear your head mate. you just want that to happen and are talking yourself into it. hw division being shit doesnt mean everyone gets a shot. maybe allen if he wins will get a fight with sexton for british.
Re: Dave Allen vs Lenroy Thomas II - Who wins?
Posted: 19 Oct 2017, 17:00
by Coco
jamamb wrote:mate so why havent they already been getting world title fights then? being commonwealth champ isnt selling point at all for a world title fight. get real. they arent close to world title. allen is fighting dallases and howes and thomases. thomas is just a guy used for prospects to beat and hes no draw at all. you think hearn is gonna be promoting him on his cards against guys who arent his fighters?
clear your head mate. you just want that to happen and are talking yourself into it. hw division being poo doesnt mean everyone gets a shot.
Everyone who has the right promoter will get a shot. They won't get a shot because they are Commonwealth champ, as you said not all comm champs get shots, but the fact they are with Hearn is the diff and belt will be just the excuse they need to put it on Joshua's undercard.
Re: Dave Allen vs Lenroy Thomas II - Who wins?
Posted: 19 Oct 2017, 17:02
by jamamb
so everyone with hearn gets a world title shot now? and hearn getting thomas a title shot just seems strange. these guys would both be among the worst ever to fight for major title. like i said, more like an allen-sexton fight for british. not even sure allen can win that hes so limited. allen is pampered but i dont think even pampered enough to get world title shot next.
want something hilarious? then list allens three best wins
Re: Dave Allen vs Lenroy Thomas II - Who wins?
Posted: 19 Oct 2017, 18:24
by KiwiRider
How did this get so twisted?
This fight is basically a stand alone event.
The winner is no more or less advancing anywhere from the outcome. Both nice guys for sure, but neither are contenders for much more just yet- even with a win, they are at least 2 fights at a higher level away from even being in the mix for any international belt. It's just not that type of match.
Parker is beyond bothering about a commonwealth title, his phone rings off the hook with bigger and better offers. If your a HW, want a belt, and can bring some cash, who you gonna call? Joebusters!
Re: Dave Allen vs Lenroy Thomas II - Who wins?
Posted: 19 Oct 2017, 18:28
by SAPFO
It’s a good fight at its level. No ever fight need be to be world class to be enjoyed.
Re: Dave Allen vs Lenroy Thomas II - Who wins?
Posted: 19 Oct 2017, 18:43
by KiwiRider
SAPFO wrote:It’s a good fight at its level. No ever fight need be to be world class to be enjoyed.
Exactly!
It's a redemption fight at a -C level. And with two guys that have their own styles. I'm looking forward to it. A packed card and I would love Dave to keep up his activity in this one. If he wins, I don't know where he goes from here, but where ever it is, you can bet on a few laughs along the way

Re: Dave Allen vs Lenroy Thomas II - Who wins?
Posted: 19 Oct 2017, 18:48
by funso banjo baby
Allen is a bit like Jon Mcdermot
Re: Dave Allen vs Lenroy Thomas II - Who wins?
Posted: 19 Oct 2017, 18:58
by jamamb
ya, no shitt a fight doesnt have to be world class to enjoy it.
Re: Dave Allen vs Lenroy Thomas II - Who wins?
Posted: 19 Oct 2017, 20:20
by SAPFO
funso banjo baby wrote:Allen is a bit like Jon Mcdermot
Anyone remember the McDermot scales mystery?

Re: Dave Allen vs Lenroy Thomas II - Who wins?
Posted: 19 Oct 2017, 21:17
by jamamb
big john was significantly better than allen
practically no one as bad as allen has it so good career wise
Re: Dave Allen vs Lenroy Thomas II - Who wins?
Posted: 19 Oct 2017, 22:32
by SAPFO
What the draw? He does not exactly entertain.
Re: Dave Allen vs Lenroy Thomas II - Who wins?
Posted: 20 Oct 2017, 00:46
by jonnyyorkshu
funso banjo baby wrote:Allen is a bit like Jon Mcdermot
Big jon would beat Allen 6 days a week and twice on a Sunday.
Allen is is a nice kid but he's garbage, fast car must have a man crush on him.
Re: Dave Allen vs Lenroy Thomas II - Who wins?
Posted: 20 Oct 2017, 01:07
by Andrew
jonnyyorkshu wrote:funso banjo baby wrote:Allen is a bit like Jon Mcdermot
Big jon would beat Allen 6 days a week and twice on a Sunday.
Allen is is a nice kid but he's garbage, fast car must have a man crush on him.
PPV fighter mate

Re: Dave Allen vs Lenroy Thomas II - Who wins?
Posted: 20 Oct 2017, 02:10
by KiwiRider
SAPFO wrote:What the draw? He does not exactly entertain.
Mostly out of the ring stuff. In the ring he has heart and doea his best. I'm not really sure how to answer your question, but to quote the classic movie The Castle;
"It's all about the vibe"
Re: Dave Allen vs Lenroy Thomas II - Who wins?
Posted: 20 Oct 2017, 02:11
by Andrew
Part of me would rather Thomas win this because he will definitely fight Joe Joyce next.
Re: Dave Allen vs Lenroy Thomas II - Who wins?
Posted: 20 Oct 2017, 02:35
by jamamb
jonnyyorkshu wrote:funso banjo baby wrote:Allen is a bit like Jon Mcdermot
Big jon would beat Allen 6 days a week and twice on a Sunday.
Allen is is a nice kid but he's garbage, fast car must have a man crush on him.
agree. allen should be very thankful he gets the platforms and opportunities he does, including this rematch. hearn has really supported him. big john was in a different league.
Re: Dave Allen vs Lenroy Thomas II - Who wins?
Posted: 20 Oct 2017, 03:37
by keirw
jonnyyorkshu wrote:funso banjo baby wrote:Allen is a bit like Jon Mcdermot
Big jon would beat Allen 6 days a week and twice on a Sunday.
Allen is is a nice kid but he's garbage, fast car must have a man crush on him.
Hearn does have an odd habit of getting a bit too emotionally attached to his fighters, Froch, Barker, Bellew to name but a few.
However, they were all much more worthy of his time than Allen, who has done nothing in the ring to warrant it.
Re: Dave Allen vs Lenroy Thomas II - Who wins?
Posted: 20 Oct 2017, 04:16
by Marlo Stanfield
Worth noting that this is Dave Allens 4th appearance on Hearns PPVs
He's never won a title.
His best win is Jason Gavern
Re: Dave Allen vs Lenroy Thomas II - Who wins?
Posted: 20 Oct 2017, 04:30
by chinarich
Let's not kid ourselves here, this is one of the weakest pairings for the Commonwealth HW title that there has ever been. They are both nice guys and it doesn't mean it can't be a good fight, but they are levels below challenging for anything more significant...
Re: Dave Allen vs Lenroy Thomas II - Who wins?
Posted: 20 Oct 2017, 11:49
by wesshaw1985
Re: Dave Allen vs Lenroy Thomas II - Who wins?
Posted: 20 Oct 2017, 13:04
by SAPFO
Feckin hell. Lenroy can fight on the 4th Nov, and this gets pushed to Haye/Bellew.
Allen vs Sexton instead next week then
Re: Dave Allen vs Lenroy Thomas II - Who wins?
Posted: 20 Oct 2017, 15:18
by KiwiRider
I'm not so sure a virus is only a cold.
Has Lenroy got a virus from googling "how to beat a Rino" and got directed to pornhub?
Because they have been having trouble with viruses lately. Apparently, or so I have read
