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SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Halfway through? He looked hobbled during his ring walk. He completely blew it out halfway through the fight.

Hobbled during the ring walk...that sounds EVEN MORE like the David Haye we've always known. Guy can't check his mail without throwing something out of whack

Well, I know the few fighters you hate that much will never get credit from you for anything. Fighting with a torn Achilles for several rounds is as tough as it gets.

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Well, I know the few fighters you hate that much will never get credit from you for anything. Fighting with a torn Achilles for several rounds is as tough as it gets.

Nah I give Haye credit for fighting through the injury. He showed a lot of balls that night.

In the case of Haye it's more like a Bobby Heenan, I've always disliked him so I'm just gonna keep disliking him thing, but I respect things he's done, and that's one of 'em.

I think the genuine contempt I once had for David Haye has decreased as his relevance in the sport has.

It makes Boxing more fun to have guys you really like a lot, and guys you really hate. Most fighters I'm indifferent to, and don't feel one way or another about them, the fights are more fun when there's some sort of emotional investment in it be it positive or negative.

My view of the fights themselves are always impartial and unbiased in spite of how I feel about the fighters in question.

gilgamesh wrote:

Nightmare Roy wrote:

Horse wrote:You'd love to kiss his foot wouldn't you?

I'm no fanboy, but if he was in his prime he'd put Tony in orbit

He pulled a muscle halfway through their first fight...sounds like the same David Haye we've always known to me

Pulled a muscle his leg was hanging off!

Nightmare Roy wrote:Pulled a muscle his leg was hanging off!

So, no excuses in the rematch?

Horse wrote:

Nightmare Roy wrote:Pulled a muscle his leg was hanging off!

So, no excuses in the rematch?

He might lose fair and square who knows but he defiantly had a valid reason in the first fight.

Nightmare Roy wrote:He might lose fair and square who knows but he defiantly had a valid reason in the first fight.

So, he'll have plenty of excuses if he loses again?

Bellew can't win.

Horse wrote:

Nightmare Roy wrote:He might lose fair and square who knows but he defiantly had a valid reason in the first fight.

So, he'll have plenty of excuses if he loses again?

Bellew can't win.

This is David "Oh No, My Toe" Haye we're talking about. Of course he'll have an excuse.

Horse wrote:

Ruthless-RKO wrote:Bellew, always talking about Haye..

Haye, hardly mentions Bellew unless asked..

Bellew beat Haye.

But, but, Haye is so superior.

Can everyone stop worshipping this washed up old clown now?

Technically yes. There was of course a pretty key factor that decided the fight

No worship here, just fact

gilgamesh wrote:Just because I intensely dislike Haye, and have for years I'm gonna side with Horse here.

Haye just can't hang with Bellew. He got beat by the better man in March, and he'll get beat by the better man in December

WAR TONY!!!

He hung with him pretty well before the injury. 4-1 up. The Achilles injury decided that fight

Ossyrules wrote:

gilgamesh wrote:Just because I intensely dislike Haye, and have for years I'm gonna side with Horse here.

Haye just can't hang with Bellew. He got beat by the better man in March, and he'll get beat by the better man in December

WAR TONY!!!

He hung with him pretty well before the injury. 4-1 up. The Achilles injury decided that fight

Yeah I know. It's fun to be a heel sometimes. Don't take every post I make so seriously, I certainly don't

jamamb wrote:it was a sad fight. haye being crippled. bellew being unable to finish the gimp for so long and even looking gassed.

Yes it had no place amongst serious heavyweight challengers

gilgamesh wrote:

Ossyrules wrote:

gilgamesh wrote:Just because I intensely dislike Haye, and have for years I'm gonna side with Horse here.

Haye just can't hang with Bellew. He got beat by the better man in March, and he'll get beat by the better man in December

WAR TONY!!!

He hung with him pretty well before the injury. 4-1 up. The Achilles injury decided that fight

Yeah I know. It's fun to be a heel sometimes. Don't take every post I make so seriously, I certainly don't

personally I’ve always liked haye. I grew up with haye coming thru the ranks. I accept he’s a shadow now though he should never have came back

I liked Haye as a Cruiserweight, as soon as he started calling out the Klitschko's, talking mad sh*t, and then proceeded to sprain his vagina left and right I started to dislike him quite passionately.

Him losing his last fight due to injury was almost comical to me.

fanman wrote:

Controversial wrote:As much as I thought Haye would win first time around, I'm not so sure he will in the rematch, even if fully fit.

agreed; timing, weight, age, injuries ... yet on the other hand he was holding his own with one leg.

He just doesn't seem the same fighter anymore, he's been too inactive. It doesn't help he won't be having any warm up fights either. I think Bellew is right, he has the wrong style for Haye.

gilgamesh wrote:I liked Haye as a Cruiserweight, as soon as he started calling out the Klitschko's, talking mad sh*t, and then proceeded to sprain his vagina left and right I started to dislike him quite passionately.

Him losing his last fight due to injury was almost comical to me.

Depending on your stance on haye, in fairness it must be immensely frustrating to be so injury prone and having to cancel fights etc

But then if Hayes not your cup of tea it’s hilarious lol

Controversial wrote:

fanman wrote:

Controversial wrote:As much as I thought Haye would win first time around, I'm not so sure he will in the rematch, even if fully fit.

agreed; timing, weight, age, injuries ... yet on the other hand he was holding his own with one leg.

He just doesn't seem the same fighter anymore, he's been too inactive. It doesn't help he won't be having any warm up fights either. I think Bellew is right, he has the wrong style for Haye.

At the beginning of training camps when he was with booth, his timing used to be awful, and he’d look dreadful, but it’d come sharp as the fight got closer. The inactivity will have hurt him big

If Haye comes in anywhere under 214lbs, then I expect him to win by KO in devastating fashion. For all his politeness & eloquence, Haye has that nasty streak. Haye looked lean last time I saw him on TV, which is not good for Bellew.



Who's Haye training with, sparring with, anybody?

gilgamesh wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Well, I know the few fighters you hate that much will never get credit from you for anything. Fighting with a torn Achilles for several rounds is as tough as it gets.

Nah I give Haye credit for fighting through the injury. He showed a lot of balls that night.

In the case of Haye it's more like a Bobby Heenan, I've always disliked him so I'm just gonna keep disliking him thing, but I respect things he's done, and that's one of 'em.

I think the genuine contempt I once had for David Haye has decreased as his relevance in the sport has.

It makes Boxing more fun to have guys you really like a lot, and guys you really hate. Most fighters I'm indifferent to, and don't feel one way or another about them, the fights are more fun when there's some sort of emotional investment in it be it positive or negative.

My view of the fights themselves are always impartial and unbiased in spite of how I feel about the fighters in question.

I've always liked Haye, the time I met him he was cool as hell.

Horse wrote:

Nightmare Roy wrote:He might lose fair and square who knows but he defiantly had a valid reason in the first fight.

So, he'll have plenty of excuses if he loses again?

Bellew can't win.

He can if he beats a man that isn't shuffling around the ring on one leg .

I think if he beats a 75% fit Haye he will get respect

i think it could be career beef curtains for whoever loses this fight.

What's to say his Achilles won't go again?

I think bellew would have won earlier if haye would not have got injured. He took hayes best shots and stood up to them . Then the injury happened and bellew went eyeballs out for the stoppage and gassed himself out a bit. Then it took him a few rounds to get his 2nd wind. If the injury never happened then i think belew would have taken his time and stopped him a round or two earlier. I cant see the rematch going any other way.

didnt see that at all mate. bellew was the one looking to be tiring more and hed only been getting more negative as the rounds passed. he maybe won the first but then lost everything else by increasing margins, i think on all the cards too. then the leg goes and boom, he comes out of his shell and the fights in his favour. it so perfectly corresponded with the injury.

haye is clearly the better of the two when at their best, but thing is, can haye fight at a decent level these days with his body holding up? im not so sure. think he might need blowout fights like de mori in order to win before his body falls apart.

cutsman wrote:What's to say his Achilles won't go again?

Absolutely nothing