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Jip wrote: ↑15 Nov 2017, 14:58 Loma has been very entertaining latly. Lighting combos. Great footwork. Tkos.

I haven't made it through his last few fights.

I'm not as entertained by Loma as some are on here. I do find Loma watchable and do enjoy his fights, I just don't believe he's all that.. Very good, but I don't hold him to the standard alot do around these parts, claiming he's the best they have even seen and all this other crazy off the wall blabber.

I find Rigo actually equally as entertaining. I actually believe Rigo is a much smarter fighter, he's very calculated and I've always been drawn do those types of fighters. Not at all boring to me.

I do feel they operate at around the same level though, they just go about there business in much different ways. So with that under consideration. It's common sense to favor the bigger, younger, more active fighter.

Evander wrote: ↑13 Nov 2017, 23:22 Great match up but a weight adavantage that's hard not to notice.
Has there been a change of heart toward this fight ?
Lomachenko is a 6/1 favorite .. is that too high ?

One booky joint I just looked at has the odds 4 1/2 to 1 the other 5 1/2 to 1, Loma.

Absolutely massive fight for both fighters, I can't see anything but an awesome fight, chess match or otherwise, I think their probably the two most skilful fighters right now, rigo is so underrated it's a joke, loma will have his hands full, I can see rigo counter punching loma all night then hopefully a fight breaks out.

Loma is going to win this one easily.

Kalan wrote: ↑14 Nov 2017, 21:39

ClivePatrickLyons wrote: ↑14 Nov 2017, 20:44 Rigo will win un dec

Dream on.. He's getting his butt kicked in.

You will be prove wrong as usual

I can't see Lomachenko fighting the way he has and beating Rigo.
He will have to fight tall and be more disciplined.
Basically, he needs to do what Chad Dawson did to Hopkins.
I think he can do this.

If Loma tries to play that Matrix shit against Rigo, he'll get countered hard.

Its getting closer...

Feel like Sanchez-Gomez going in...

The only thing that i do NOT look forward to is the posts the day after this fight if Loma wins convincingly. Everyone will continue to go overboard and saying that Loma is better than Ali-Floyd-Leornard, all put together. None of them will admit that Rigo jumping up 2 weight classes to take him on having anything to do with it. The Loma idiots are almost as bad as the Povetkin goons that hover about this site waiting to clog it up with stupid posts. I'm ready to leave the site for good.

That's how I feel when I see Mayweather being put alongside Ali and Leonard.

caldo2025 wrote: ↑24 Nov 2017, 09:16 The only thing that i do NOT look forward to is the posts the day after this fight if Loma wins convincingly. Everyone will continue to go overboard and saying that Loma is better than Ali-Floyd-Leornard, all put together. None of them will admit that Rigo jumping up 2 weight classes to take him on having anything to do with it. The Loma idiots are almost as bad as the Povetkin goons that hover about this site waiting to clog it up with stupid posts. I'm ready to leave the site for good.

leave the site then you moaning girl. you just bitch constantly and seek out attention with your lame threads like stiverne beating wilder.and theres like 2 povetkin threads on the last 5 pages of the forum, both about his upcoming fight.wow! 2 threads on a top hw is huge!!!

Hey the Stalker is back. Who the heck are you? It looks like you can remember everything that i post ya little prick. Thanks man. That’s a compliment. Sorry can’t remember anything you’ve ever done. Keep at it.

wow! i have a memory! i guess you dont

NateJR wrote: ↑16 Nov 2017, 00:52 I find Rigo actually equally as entertaining. I actually believe Rigo is a much smarter fighter, he's very calculated and I've always been drawn do those types of fighters. Not at all boring to me.

- You were drawn to TUE, 50-0, like you were one of his strippers, so boring makes you go ding-dong-a-dingle-ling-a-ling obviously.

Rigo is definitely skilled, but mentally unsuited for modern professional boxing, and thankfully taking his early retirement pay here for the biggest purse he can make at this late date for him. He's a promotional nightmare, avoiding every top contender of his generation, and one of the dirtiest too who is lucky not to have been DQed in some of his fights, and he gets flattened repeatedly by rank journeymen, hardly the mark of some superior excellence. And his current promoter is just as shady as he is.

I shudder to think what what a filthy tag team like Orlando Salido and Laurence Cole would have done to him in his 2nd pro fight, but we've never seen him step up to the plate til now unless you count being flattened twice by Nonito Donaire after ditching his HOF trainer and manager for his father and new wife to assume those duties. No rematch to that lucrative fight that was close on the cards that needed an assist by the dirty ref to insure the win.

Too late for the Donaire rematch, he's done, but not to too late for Rigo to either be counted out or DQed in one of the dirtiest displays by currently active fighters...

...ding-dong-a-dingle-ling-a-ling

In the know 85 wrote: ↑16 Nov 2017, 13:13 Absolutely massive fight for both fighters, I can't see anything but an awesome fight, chess match or otherwise, I think their probably the two most skilful fighters right now, rigo is so underrated it's a joke, loma will have his hands full, I can see rigo counter punching loma all night then hopefully a fight breaks out.

If you were picking a style to beat Loma you'd pick rigo. A completely negative fighter who will come with the objective of stinking the place out, taking no chances, throwing one pot shot at a time and running and who has excellent defence and reflexes. If Loma gets frustrated and makes a mistake, he takes a sharp left hand. And rigo is off stinking it out again. Rigo will be doing absolutely everything he can here to stink the joint out and lomachenko will have to show us all his skills here. He's not just going to steamroll rigo.

I look forward to a highly skilled entertaining fight for me. I appreciate the skill that both boxers have. Rigo is 7 years too late for this fight. Older boxers become very defensive like Money and B-Hop. Throwing punches puts you at risk for counters and the older you get, the more getting hit hurts. Young boxers don't feel the pain the same and are more fearless. With that I still think Rigo will put some offensive effort into this fight, Lomo is bigger and younger so I pick him for the decision. I also don't think it's a big deal with Rigo going up 8 lbs. His body can carry that no problem and he won't have to worry about extreme weight cutting.

Loma isn’t losing to a little guy who is past his prime. It’s just not happening. Loma will only lose to a bigger man in his prime. Lomachenko has too much workrate for Rigo. Rigo is used to being faster and more technical than all his opponents. He won’t have either advantage here.

TheLeprechaun wrote: ↑25 Nov 2017, 13:29

In the know 85 wrote: ↑16 Nov 2017, 13:13 Absolutely massive fight for both fighters, I can't see anything but an awesome fight, chess match or otherwise, I think their probably the two most skilful fighters right now, rigo is so underrated it's a joke, loma will have his hands full, I can see rigo counter punching loma all night then hopefully a fight breaks out.

If you were picking a style to beat Loma you'd pick rigo. A completely negative fighter who will come with the objective of stinking the place out, taking no chances, throwing one pot shot at a time and running and who has excellent defence and reflexes. If Loma gets frustrated and makes a mistake, he takes a sharp left hand. And rigo is off stinking it out again. Rigo will be doing absolutely everything he can here to stink the joint out and lomachenko will have to show us all his skills here. He's not just going to steamroll rigo.

I don’t agree with this at all. One pot shot at a time isn’t going to deter Lomachenko. We saw what can bother him. A bigger guy who gets in his chest and bullies him around on the inside. Rigo is the exact opposite of what we have seen can work against Loma.

diddy wrote: ↑25 Nov 2017, 16:36

TheLeprechaun wrote: ↑25 Nov 2017, 13:29

In the know 85 wrote: ↑16 Nov 2017, 13:13 Absolutely massive fight for both fighters, I can't see anything but an awesome fight, chess match or otherwise, I think their probably the two most skilful fighters right now, rigo is so underrated it's a joke, loma will have his hands full, I can see rigo counter punching loma all night then hopefully a fight breaks out.

If you were picking a style to beat Loma you'd pick rigo. A completely negative fighter who will come with the objective of stinking the place out, taking no chances, throwing one pot shot at a time and running and who has excellent defence and reflexes. If Loma gets frustrated and makes a mistake, he takes a sharp left hand. And rigo is off stinking it out again. Rigo will be doing absolutely everything he can here to stink the joint out and lomachenko will have to show us all his skills here. He's not just going to steamroll rigo.

I don’t agree with this at all. One pot shot at a time isn’t going to deter Lomachenko. We saw what can bother him. A bigger guy who gets in his chest and bullies him around on the inside. Rigo is the exact opposite of what we have seen can work against Loma.

We can agree to disagree then. No way Lomachenko will just do his usual shtick against Rigo in my opinion. Rigo is dangerous and sharp with that left hand. He also takes zero risk in the ring and won't panic if Loma is coming in - he knows how to get out the backdoor. I'm not saying Loma won't win, because I think he will win a stinky fight by decision. But if you think he can just keep coming forward against Rigo the way he was doing in previous fights I think you are mistaken. This is the best counter puncher Loma has ever seen in his life.

TheLeprechaun wrote: ↑25 Nov 2017, 16:52

diddy wrote: ↑25 Nov 2017, 16:36

TheLeprechaun wrote: ↑25 Nov 2017, 13:29


If you were picking a style to beat Loma you'd pick rigo. A completely negative fighter who will come with the objective of stinking the place out, taking no chances, throwing one pot shot at a time and running and who has excellent defence and reflexes. If Loma gets frustrated and makes a mistake, he takes a sharp left hand. And rigo is off stinking it out again. Rigo will be doing absolutely everything he can here to stink the joint out and lomachenko will have to show us all his skills here. He's not just going to steamroll rigo.

I don’t agree with this at all. One pot shot at a time isn’t going to deter Lomachenko. We saw what can bother him. A bigger guy who gets in his chest and bullies him around on the inside. Rigo is the exact opposite of what we have seen can work against Loma.

We can agree to disagree then. No way Lomachenko will just do his usual shtick against Rigo in my opinion. Rigo is dangerous and sharp with that left hand. He also takes zero risk in the ring and won't panic if Loma is coming in - he knows how to get out the backdoor. I'm not saying Loma won't win, because I think he will win a stinky fight by decision. But if you think he can just keep coming forward against Rigo the way he was doing in previous fights I think you are mistaken. This is the best counter puncher Loma has ever seen in his life.

Obviously he will have to be a bit more calculated. That should go without saying. His workrate will still be considerably higher than Rigo’s even with a more deliberate approach. We’ve also seen Rigo floored by MUCH lesser fighters than Loma. How does he overcome knockdowns against Loma? He would have to stop him and I’ve seen nothing to indicate Loma has anything less than a stellar chin.

diddy wrote: ↑25 Nov 2017, 16:56

TheLeprechaun wrote: ↑25 Nov 2017, 16:52

diddy wrote: ↑25 Nov 2017, 16:36

I don’t agree with this at all. One pot shot at a time isn’t going to deter Lomachenko. We saw what can bother him. A bigger guy who gets in his chest and bullies him around on the inside. Rigo is the exact opposite of what we have seen can work against Loma.

We can agree to disagree then. No way Lomachenko will just do his usual shtick against Rigo in my opinion. Rigo is dangerous and sharp with that left hand. He also takes zero risk in the ring and won't panic if Loma is coming in - he knows how to get out the backdoor. I'm not saying Loma won't win, because I think he will win a stinky fight by decision. But if you think he can just keep coming forward against Rigo the way he was doing in previous fights I think you are mistaken. This is the best counter puncher Loma has ever seen in his life.

Obviously he will have to be a bit more calculated. That should go without saying. His workrate will still be considerably higher than Rigo’s even with a more deliberate approach.

Look at his fight with Russell Jr. It was an 8-4, 7-5 type fight. He wasn't all over Russell Jr. because he was careful about being countered and he lost some rounds. People go on about that like it was a 120-108 fight but two judges had it 8-4 and one had it 6-6. For me Rigo is slicker than Russell Jr and Loma will have to be very careful.

Also, I think if you come in and try to fight the same fight Salido fought, you will get lit up by Loma. He was green as a pro then and he can handle that style better now. I believe he would stop Salido no problem. I don't see anybody being able to come in and bully Loma on the inside now, I think Loma can handle that.

If rigo still has concussive power in the left hand then I really think this fight will stink the joint out. Let's be honest, the Russell Jr. Fight was not good to watch.

russell hardly landed anything in that fight. he literally had like a 9 percent connect rate. good air punching though, i assume that's the only reason anyone wouldve had it close. simply because russell was moving his hands, even if he couldnt land sh!t

6-6 was a f@cking awful score.

remember, when you talk about rigos power, your talking about a guy coming up two divisions. think of the difference in concussiveness that walters and rigo showed against donaire. then look at walters not being able to stop bigger guys like marriaga and sosa.

jamamb wrote: ↑25 Nov 2017, 17:11 russell hardly landed anything in that fight. he literally had like a 9 percent connect rate. good air punching though, i assume that's the only reason anyone wouldve had it close. simply because russell was moving his hands, even if he couldnt land sh!t

6-6 was a f@cking awful score.

remember, when you talk about rigos power, your talking about a guy coming up two divisions. think of the difference in concussiveness that walters and rigo showed against donaire. then look at walters not being able to stop bigger guys like marriaga and sosa.

I had it 8-4 Loma, like most people I remember who watched it.

Very few have watched it twice and I certainly won't be re-watching it.

ya, so 6-6 was utter shit wasnt it.

russell was terribly inaccurate. one of the lowest connect rates ive ever seen in a high level fight. if ppl thought that was a close one i dont want to hear them on about ineffective aggression in other fights. perfect display of it in that match.

russell at least throw plenty of punches though, and that allowed him to take rounds with ppl who like mere activity even when nothing lands. rigo doesnt have that workrate though and do you really think moving up two divisions his power will be that great. like i said look at the difference in ko power in walters vs donaire, then walters against legit 126 and 130 pounders.

think it will be boring mainly because rigo will refuse to engage and just will end up losing wide. loma will probably do a bunch of lame showboating too