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Deserter wrote: ↑21 Nov 2017, 16:16

KiwiRider wrote: ↑21 Nov 2017, 14:48 I think we can all agree that if it goes to the cards, it's Eubanks fight?

Why? I can easily see GG controlling this fight with his jab and counters. Everyone talking about Eubank's wprk-rate seem to be operating on the presumption that he's just going to be able to walk through a world-class jab and go to work. I've seen plenty of fighters known for a high work-rate drop their output dramatically when they're in with a better fighter who can time them, give them angles etc.

So by contrast, I think we can all agree that GG is the biggest, most experienced, hardest punching and most skilled fighter that Chris Jr has ever faced, no?

You make some good points regarding Grove's jab. And I think George is a good enough boxer to do what you say- But he does have a tendency to forget all that and go to war ( bless 'im) and that is where I think Eubanks work rate will come into play. As long as his chin holds up, that is
I also agree with you that Groves is the best by far that Eubank has faced. I had hoped Abraham would give him a good test, so we could see where he was at, but alas, 'twas not to be.

eubank wins

You‘d have to go with Grovesy who has shown he can cut it at this level. Chris has yet to do that. I‘m excited about this one. I‘ve been a fan of Groves for quite a while now, so I‘m hoping he does the business. I‘ve put a bet on Chris though as insurance.

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑21 Nov 2017, 11:03 George Groves' WBA super-middleweight title defence against Chris Eubank Jr will take place at the Manchester Arena on February 17.

The champion, from London, had hoped their highly-anticipated World Boxing Super Series semi-final would take place in the capital, potentially at one of its football stadiums.

The series' promoters have now said he will instead return to the Manchester Arena for the first time since one of his finest performances in his first fight with Carl Froch, in 2013, when he dropped the then-defending champion and outboxed him before the controversial late stoppage.

Now that's how you run a poll

KiwiRider wrote: ↑21 Nov 2017, 14:48 I think we can all agree that if it goes to the cards, it's Eubanks fight?

I don't agree with that at all, Mate

Taansend wrote: ↑21 Nov 2017, 19:33
Now that's how you run a poll

Cheers..

I’m a fan of George but he’s got a lot of miles on the clock and i fear he may run out of steam in the middle rounds and get bludgeoned to a stoppage later on.

Unless he’s just too big and hits too hard for Jr which is equally conceivable I suppose. A good pick em fight, can’t wait.

George is a very big lad, they'll be shocked at his size. I'll be interested to see if his right hand deters Jr. early. Murray is rock solid chinned and he didn't like it.

I think Eubank stops Groves late after wearing him down in a back n forward scrap..... If Eubank has the chin I think he has he'll go back and for it then come out on top when Groves inevitably tires.

mickey1975 wrote: ↑21 Nov 2017, 20:19 George is a very big lad, they'll be shocked at his size. I'll be interested to see if his right hand deters Jr. early. Murray is rock solid chinned and he didn't like it.

Eubank’s never been in with someone with Groves’ power so all talk of his chin is guesswork i suppose. Abraham had a dig on him in his prime but i dont think he landed anything significant on Jr so we just don’t know how he’ll react if he gets tagged

First of all i doubt it will happen , I pick Eubank to pull out , get injured folding the bed sheets , and then proclaim if he had not been injured , he would rightfully be called the best in the world becuase he would off won .

But if it does go on , Groves to win Eubank just does'nt know what its like at this level yet , Groves will time him coming in and hurt him , if you can hurt Froch , you will hurt Eubank , if you can go hard rnds with Froch , degale , and jack , your not chinny

CaptainSpacerod wrote: ↑21 Nov 2017, 20:35

mickey1975 wrote: ↑21 Nov 2017, 20:19 George is a very big lad, they'll be shocked at his size. I'll be interested to see if his right hand deters Jr. early. Murray is rock solid chinned and he didn't like it.

Eubank’s never been in with someone with Groves’ power so all talk of his chin is guesswork i suppose. Abraham had a dig on him in his prime but i dont think he landed anything significant on Jr so we just don’t know how he’ll react if he gets tagged

Abraham's record was 30(24)-0 as a middleweight and is 16(6)-6(1) as a SuperMiddle. Any dig he once had is pretty irrelevant at 168. I think that works out to be only a 37% KO ratio at 168 compared to an 80% ratio at 160.

hope I'm wrong but it think Eubank - late stoppage as groves starts to tire. Just think its his time. Groves seems to expend a lot of nervous energy in his fights these days and I think there still some mental scars there despite his recent winning run. Eubank on the other hand looks to be getting stronger and has self belief (real, not just talking shit).

Still think the very best version of Groves would win however. Maybe the body shot that stopped Cox or working behind that razor sharp jab like he used to.

I voted Groves on points, but it's not a confident pick, I feel he is more seasoned with better know how and this will be enough.
However if Eubank gets in his face and makes him work hard for 3 minutes of every round I can see Groves falling apart late on.
It all depends whether GG can punch hard enough to discourage Eubank a bit, because is the Brighton man starts to walk through him there will be some rough moments before the end of the fight.

Looking forward to this fight, Eubanks speed and engine could make him a handful for just about anyone.
However, Groves is a natural counter puncher who hits very hard.

I'm leaning towards Groves as I feel his experience and natural size advantage should see him through a tough twelve rounds.

But I wouldn't be too surprised if Eubank wears him down and picks up a late stoppage.

Might buy the missus a couple tickets for christmas

Firstly this is a great fight and a hard one to predict!

Personally I think Groves experience in big fights and boxing brain will mean he edges it.

Eubank Jr cannot just stand there and swing like he did against Yildirim, Groves will punish him if he does. I think he will be very wary of Groves’ power though and he should be. Will be interesting to see each fighters game plan in this fight.

Ads_ wrote: ↑22 Nov 2017, 06:29Personally I think Groves experience in big fights and boxing brain will mean he edges it.

By this logic, it's like saying Kessler had the experience to see off Ward, but he was outclassed.

Experience isn't always the key, nor is boxing brain.

Groves sometimes gets himself into a brawl, without needing to.

It’s a fascinating match up and one I find very difficult to predict.
I don’t think any outcome would shock me but I suppose I believe that the most likely is a Groves stoppage.
As a few others have mentioned, I’m a little sceptical as to wether or not the contest will actually take place.

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑22 Nov 2017, 06:47

Ads_ wrote: ↑22 Nov 2017, 06:29Personally I think Groves experience in big fights and boxing brain will mean he edges it.

By this logic, it's like saying Kessler had the experience to see off Ward, but he was outclassed.

Experience isn't always the key, nor is boxing brain.

Groves sometimes gets himself into a brawl, without needing to.

Totally agree and Eubank is at a similar stage of his career to what award was then however I’m not sure Eubank Jr is on the same level as Ward. Add to the fact Groves is a big Super Middle and Eubank a small one I still think Groves will be too much for him. That being said though Eubank may prove to be the next superstar of boxing and blow Groves away!! It’s such a tough one to predict!

Think groves will teach Eubank Jnr a few tricks

12 rounds all over it! No stoppage here.

horndawg80 wrote: ↑22 Nov 2017, 07:41 12 rounds all over it! No stoppage here.

Do you see a knockdown?

horndawg80 wrote: ↑22 Nov 2017, 07:41 12 rounds all over it! No stoppage here.

My thinking also, Groves UD

surprised at the amount of comments regarding a eubank pull out.

Has he pulled out of a lot of fights or are these comments more a reflection of the amount of time he's been fighting without stepping up?

The big factor for me is the miles on Groves clock. And not physical miles but mental miles.

Build up to De Gale fight
Build up to Froch
Controversial Loss to Froch
Build up to Froch Rematch
Devastating KO loss
Close Jack loss
Fall out with Paddy.
The euphoria of finally winning the title.

Each of the above has a huge mental impact. He seems strong willed but the mental hardship seems to of effected him physically.
You could argue he had a young peak with Froch 1 probably the best he’s looked.

I think this could be the fight where the wheels come off. Think Eubank could force a late stoppage.

Hope I’m wrong though as Groves has provided cracking entertainment in a busy career.