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jamamb wrote: ↑28 Nov 2017, 12:24 would be crazy for conor to be gunned down. in death his legend would grow even more.

Coco wrote: ↑28 Nov 2017, 16:45

wesshaw1985 wrote: ↑28 Nov 2017, 16:19

Naandrew wrote: ↑28 Nov 2017, 12:30 Shouldn't this be in off topic ?

I thought the Irishman was a boxer!!

boxingknockout wrote: ↑28 Nov 2017, 18:34 PS I think in this modern world ‘gangsters’ are a lot less fearsome than they used to be due to a number of factors. Even the New York mafia are overrated these days - John Gotti, one of the most powerful, still got a hiding in jail.

Oiky wrote: ↑28 Nov 2017, 18:43

boxingknockout wrote: ↑28 Nov 2017, 18:34 PS I think in this modern world ‘gangsters’ are a lot less fearsome than they used to be due to a number of factors. Even the New York mafia are overrated these days - John Gotti, one of the most powerful, still got a hiding in jail.

Depends on what level you are talking about . If you are talking about lemons up & down being dumb doing silly things & drawing attention to themselves all the time, and who couldlnt organise a proper coup to save their lives, then you are right

But there is still some firms about who if on your case you are f*cked, the mafia doesn't have the same clout no, but that's America not here,plus there are other gangs in them parts that are just as dangerous now as the mafia was then , and as for uk/ire there is a few firms about who still Carry the same weight they carried years ago

boxingknockout wrote: ↑28 Nov 2017, 18:51

Oiky wrote: ↑28 Nov 2017, 18:43

boxingknockout wrote: ↑28 Nov 2017, 18:34 PS I think in this modern world ‘gangsters’ are a lot less fearsome than they used to be due to a number of factors. Even the New York mafia are overrated these days - John Gotti, one of the most powerful, still got a hiding in jail.

Depends on what level you are talking about . If you are talking about lemons up & down being dumb doing silly things & drawing attention to themselves all the time, and who couldlnt organise a proper coup to save their lives, then you are right

But there is still some firms about who if on your case you are f*cked, the mafia doesn't have the same clout no, but that's America not here,plus there are other gangs in them parts that are just as dangerous now as the mafia was then , and as for uk/ire there is a few firms about who still Carry the same weight they carried years ago

I understand. But to imagine a bunch of low life, poorly organised violent gangsters from Ireland can touch a global superstar with 10s of millions of dollars and lives in America is a little far fetched.

I’m not saying they ‘couldnt’ in theory.... but in reality - really!?!?! Why would some gangsters from Ireland whack a global superstar and Irish National hero because he beat up a connected guy? Really? These gangsters are going to risk their entire business, have massive police investigation, get nicked, get hated by all of Ireland, and bring severe heat.... just because a guy that lives in Los Angeles and no longer has much to do with Ireland beat up the wrong guy.... really? Be serious.... villains lean on people who are part of the criminal community, outlaws who owe them money. Not global superstars who live abroad

Coco wrote: ↑28 Nov 2017, 17:28 If they all plot up in LA they should be safe enough, but then how many pals would he leave behind?
Was Conor really out of order? Or is it like you can't touch any of these guys, even if they deserve it?
From a quick google I saw that Gerald Kavanagh, one of Kinahans enforcers, got ironed out and there doesn't seem to be a come back there?

Oiky wrote: ↑28 Nov 2017, 19:08

boxingknockout wrote: ↑28 Nov 2017, 18:51

Oiky wrote: ↑28 Nov 2017, 18:43

Depends on what level you are talking about . If you are talking about lemons up & down being dumb doing silly things & drawing attention to themselves all the time, and who couldlnt organise a proper coup to save their lives, then you are right

But there is still some firms about who if on your case you are f*cked, the mafia doesn't have the same clout no, but that's America not here,plus there are other gangs in them parts that are just as dangerous now as the mafia was then , and as for uk/ire there is a few firms about who still Carry the same weight they carried years ago

I understand. But to imagine a bunch of low life, poorly organised violent gangsters from Ireland can touch a global superstar with 10s of millions of dollars and lives in America is a little far fetched.

I’m not saying they ‘couldnt’ in theory.... but in reality - really!?!?! Why would some gangsters from Ireland whack a global superstar and Irish National hero because he beat up a connected guy? Really? These gangsters are going to risk their entire business, have massive police investigation, get nicked, get hated by all of Ireland, and bring severe heat.... just because a guy that lives in Los Angeles and no longer has much to do with Ireland beat up the wrong guy.... really? Be serious.... villains lean on people who are part of the criminal community, outlaws who owe them money. Not global superstars who live abroad

The Kinahans aren't poorly organised. Yeah if McGregor goes to ground in la course he's going to be safe... and course they aren't going to bring it on top for themselves by shooting McGregor or his family .... where did I say that ? You reckon modern gangsters arent as dangerous and I said there is still some firms about you wouldn't want trouble with in general, not that this firm are suddenly going to top McGregor and his kin ...

But if you think they won't put a threat out to try & get money out of the McGregors then that's a bit naive, he's a global superstar not his family, who all live local, they can all go to ground v quick but in their eyes it's worth a shot at getting some money isn't it...

Tanzio wrote: ↑28 Nov 2017, 18:46 What are the odds this is a pre-planned and paid for marketing ploy? Probably worth the £900,000, business-wise.

Nightmare Roy wrote: ↑28 Nov 2017, 21:01

Tanzio wrote: ↑28 Nov 2017, 18:46 What are the odds this is a pre-planned and paid for marketing ploy? Probably worth the £900,000, business-wise.

Absolutely zero chance

wesshaw1985 wrote: ↑28 Nov 2017, 16:48

Coco wrote: ↑28 Nov 2017, 16:45

wesshaw1985 wrote: ↑28 Nov 2017, 16:19

I thought the Irishman was a boxer!!

you thought wrong. You must have missed the Mayweather fight...

tigermoth87 wrote: ↑29 Nov 2017, 02:23 Good on Connor

All these gangsters are nothing but cowards, bullies and plastic hardmen.

Threatening to shoot Connor is proof of that. Surely if they were real men they'd settle it with their fists rather than hiding behind guns? Oh wait, they just tried that and Connor beat them to a pulp.

Tanzio wrote: ↑28 Nov 2017, 18:46 What are the odds this is a pre-planned and paid for marketing ploy? Probably worth the £900,000, business-wise.

Counter-puncher wrote: ↑29 Nov 2017, 04:59

Tanzio wrote: ↑28 Nov 2017, 18:46 What are the odds this is a pre-planned and paid for marketing ploy? Probably worth the £900,000, business-wise.

that's my suspicion

boxingknockout wrote: ↑28 Nov 2017, 18:51

Oiky wrote: ↑28 Nov 2017, 18:43

boxingknockout wrote: ↑28 Nov 2017, 18:34 PS I think in this modern world ‘gangsters’ are a lot less fearsome than they used to be due to a number of factors. Even the New York mafia are overrated these days - John Gotti, one of the most powerful, still got a hiding in jail.

Depends on what level you are talking about . If you are talking about lemons up & down being dumb doing silly things & drawing attention to themselves all the time, and who couldlnt organise a proper coup to save their lives, then you are right

But there is still some firms about who if on your case you are f*cked, the mafia doesn't have the same clout no, but that's America not here,plus there are other gangs in them parts that are just as dangerous now as the mafia was then , and as for uk/ire there is a few firms about who still Carry the same weight they carried years ago

I understand. But to imagine a bunch of low life, poorly organised violent gangsters from Ireland can touch a global superstar with 10s of millions of dollars and lives in America is a little far fetched.

I’m not saying they ‘couldnt’ in theory.... but in reality - really!?!?! Why would some gangsters from Ireland whack a global superstar and Irish National hero because he beat up a connected guy? Really? These gangsters are going to risk their entire business, have massive police investigation, get nicked, get hated by all of Ireland, and bring severe heat.... just because a guy that lives in Los Angeles and no longer has much to do with Ireland beat up the wrong guy.... really? Be serious.... villains lean on people who are part of the criminal community, outlaws who owe them money. Not global superstars who live abroad

Sklar wrote: ↑29 Nov 2017, 02:47 Best thing any person who has made a fortune should do is keep quiet about it. When that's impossible, and it often is, they should move away from where they came from. Take their loved ones and leave. Jealousy, bitterness and hostility from those who knew you poor is stressful and tiring.

tigermoth87 wrote: ↑29 Nov 2017, 02:23 Good on Connor

All these gangsters are nothing but cowards, bullies and plastic hardmen.

Threatening to shoot Connor is proof of that. Surely if they were real men they'd settle it with their fists rather than hiding behind guns? Oh wait, they just tried that and Connor beat them to a pulp.