Lomachenko holds all the aces, youth, activity, size and IMO has made evolved into the better pro, I love Rigondeaux but his career frustrated me coz I was a big fan of his but since the Donaire win he career petered out
Re: Vasyl Lomachenko vs Guillermo Rigondeaux
Posted: 06 Dec 2017, 11:53
by stujones
It's a fascinating one. For prime for prime and p4p I'm in rigo corner...but as people say the youth and weight must be a factor.
Re: Vasyl Lomachenko vs Guillermo Rigondeaux
Posted: 06 Dec 2017, 12:09
by Boxerbeetle
I really really want to like Rigo, but he makes it so difficult. Whenever I watch him, it’s hard to fully appreciate his skills because he’s just so negative.
Loma has got to be the favourite - he’s in super form, in his prime, much more active, and with a size advantage to boot. I think it will be a cagey start, but Loma will become more aggressive as the fight wears on and gets a stoppage in the mid-to-late rounds.
Re: Vasyl Lomachenko vs Guillermo Rigondeaux
Posted: 06 Dec 2017, 14:23
by Jackson328
I fancy Lomachenko to win wide on points and it'd be a good scalp for him going forward
Re: Vasyl Lomachenko vs Guillermo Rigondeaux
Posted: 06 Dec 2017, 14:47
by Andrew
Boxerbeetle wrote: ↑06 Dec 2017, 12:09
I really really want to like Rigo, but he makes it so difficult. Whenever I watch him, it’s hard to fully appreciate his skills because he’s just so negative.
That fight in the Cotto v Canelo undercard was the final straw for me. He was after another chance got it when networks wouldn't touch him, he put on an absolute stinker of a performance against someone he should outclass with ease.
Re: Vasyl Lomachenko vs Guillermo Rigondeaux
Posted: 06 Dec 2017, 14:49
by tobyh5
All the "experts" are raving about this being a classic and all time great matchup and are debating the outcome. I feel like a lunatic as I listen to that on podcasts and think they have it bang wrong. Rigo is a smaller, older, weaker man who I actually think flatters to deceive and has always been overrated anyway. Master technician but not the all time great, P4P maestro he is said to be.
I can only see one winner and I can see Rigo being overwhelmed. Come Monday I may look like a bit of a d!ck
Re: Vasyl Lomachenko vs Guillermo Rigondeaux
Posted: 06 Dec 2017, 14:58
by Andrew
tobyh5 wrote: ↑06 Dec 2017, 14:49
All the "experts" are raving about this being a classic and all time great matchup and are debating the outcome. I feel like a lunatic as I listen to that on podcasts and think they have it bang wrong. Rigo is a smaller, older, weaker man who I actually think flatters to deceive and has always been overrated anyway. Master technician but not the all time great, P4P maestro he is said to be.
I can only see one winner and I can see Rigo being overwhelmed. Come Monday I may look like a bit of a d!ck
I'm the same as you. I'm convinced Lomachenko is going to destroy Rigo in a few rounds. Rigo has fought 3 rounds in 2 years !!!
If this fight is close or Rigos wins then this is the worse call I've ever made. My current worst is being convinced Haye was going to knock Wlad out
Re: Vasyl Lomachenko vs Guillermo Rigondeaux
Posted: 06 Dec 2017, 14:59
by TheLeprechaun
If they were both young and in their primes and in the same weight division, I'd pick Rigo. That's why it's difficult to pick.
Kind of like Calzaghe vs Jones.
Re: Vasyl Lomachenko vs Guillermo Rigondeaux
Posted: 06 Dec 2017, 16:42
by jamamb
has any other 'boxing master' been dropped or hurt as much in as few fights as rigo?at the levels hes fought at?
Re: Vasyl Lomachenko vs Guillermo Rigondeaux
Posted: 06 Dec 2017, 18:20
by wesshaw1985
I'm taking Rigo in this one. Hopefully its not a snooze fest...
Re: Vasyl Lomachenko vs Guillermo Rigondeaux
Posted: 06 Dec 2017, 18:33
by wesshaw1985
Bryant Jennings in action on the undercard of this aswell as Michael Conan and Shakur Stevenison...
Re: Vasyl Lomachenko vs Guillermo Rigondeaux
Posted: 06 Dec 2017, 19:14
by TheLeprechaun
jamamb wrote: ↑06 Dec 2017, 16:42
has any other 'boxing master' been dropped or hurt as much in as few fights as rigo?at the levels hes fought at?
Has never really been hurt has he. Mostly flash knockdowns, balance more than anything.
Re: Vasyl Lomachenko vs Guillermo Rigondeaux
Posted: 06 Dec 2017, 19:34
by jamamb
yes marroquin put him on jelly legs 2x.does recover fast though. he was deffo a bit hurt by the tall japanese too but next round seemed back to normal.
Re: Vasyl Lomachenko vs Guillermo Rigondeaux
Posted: 06 Dec 2017, 21:09
by ElJefe
People suggesting Rigo looks slower with the added weight, what do people think?
Re: Vasyl Lomachenko vs Guillermo Rigondeaux
Posted: 07 Dec 2017, 18:59
by jamesmcdonnell
Hard to tell from that, he was loading up on those shots. He certainly looks strong as a bull in there.
Re: Vasyl Lomachenko vs Guillermo Rigondeaux
Posted: 07 Dec 2017, 19:17
by Stuarty
jamesmcdonnell wrote: ↑07 Dec 2017, 18:59
Hard to tell from that, he was loading up on those shots. He certainly looks strong as a bull in there.
Be interesting to see what weight he comes in at.
Re: Vasyl Lomachenko vs Guillermo Rigondeaux
Posted: 07 Dec 2017, 20:44
by jamesmcdonnell
I have to confess I've not seen any rigo fights. But on paper this is a good one. Loma looks awesome but he's up against a proper technician. It's going to be a battle of footwork. If Loma is able to turn rigo as he has everyone else then he should win, that's what separates him from everyone else out there.
Re: Vasyl Lomachenko vs Guillermo Rigondeaux
Posted: 07 Dec 2017, 21:07
by jamamb
noob
Re: Vasyl Lomachenko vs Guillermo Rigondeaux
Posted: 07 Dec 2017, 22:29
by TheLeprechaun
jamesmcdonnell wrote: ↑07 Dec 2017, 20:44
I have to confess I've not seen any rigo fights. But on paper this is a good one. Loma looks awesome but he's up against a proper technician. It's going to be a battle of footwork. If Loma is able to turn rigo as he has everyone else then he should win, that's what separates him from everyone else out there.
Shocking
Re: Vasyl Lomachenko vs Guillermo Rigondeaux
Posted: 07 Dec 2017, 22:51
by TheLeprechaun
This is the best vid i've seen of rigo training defense
Re: Vasyl Lomachenko vs Guillermo Rigondeaux
Posted: 08 Dec 2017, 05:14
by MightyWarrior
The battle of the little Giants
Re: Vasyl Lomachenko vs Guillermo Rigondeaux
Posted: 08 Dec 2017, 05:52
by Counter-puncher
I'll be interested to see how much Rigondeaux uses his right hand against a fellow leftie. He's pretty one handed when he boxes against orthodox fighters but I imagine he'll try to bring his jab into play more, especially as he's got longer arms I believe.
Re: Vasyl Lomachenko vs Guillermo Rigondeaux
Posted: 08 Dec 2017, 16:17
by wesshaw1985
Re: Vasyl Lomachenko vs Guillermo Rigondeaux
Posted: 08 Dec 2017, 16:25
by jamesmcdonnell
well, let's hope the fight matches the staredown. Rigomdeaux doesn't look intimidated that's for sure.
Re: Vasyl Lomachenko vs Guillermo Rigondeaux
Posted: 08 Dec 2017, 16:56
by Stuarty
What did they weigh? Still fancy Loma for a stoppage! At the least a UD with Rigo going down a couple times.....
