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Re: Deontay Wilder (WBC) vs. Luis Ortiz - March 3rd 2018

Posted: 26 Jan 2018, 08:26
by PredatorHayds
Ortiz has aged quickly.
He probably outboxes and outjabs Wilder first couple of rounds. I expect his feet to start slowing and start standing in front of Wilder who stops him between 6-9.

Re: Deontay Wilder (WBC) vs. Luis Ortiz - March 3rd 2018

Posted: 26 Jan 2018, 09:37
by Bard of Boxrec
In my view it's not totally clear how much Ortiz has aged.

If he still has it (Jennings performance eg) I would confidently pick him by stoppage.

Re: Deontay Wilder (WBC) vs. Luis Ortiz - March 3rd 2018

Posted: 12 Feb 2018, 14:11
by wesshaw1985

Re: Deontay Wilder (WBC) vs. Luis Ortiz - March 3rd 2018

Posted: 12 Feb 2018, 19:28
by Ruthless-RKO
Good card.

Re: Deontay Wilder (WBC) vs. Luis Ortiz - March 3rd 2018

Posted: 12 Feb 2018, 19:29
by gilgamesh
Yeah I'm excited about it. I believe Uzcategui can get the win he was heading toward over Dirrell the first time in the rematch here, and I can't stand Dirrell so that's gonna be a wonderful addition to the card for me :OhYes:

Re: Deontay Wilder (WBC) vs. Luis Ortiz - March 3rd 2018

Posted: 12 Feb 2018, 19:31
by Stuarty
gilgamesh wrote: 12 Feb 2018, 19:29 Yeah I'm excited about it. I believe Uzcategui can get the win he was heading toward over Dirrell the first time in the rematch here, and I can't stand Dirrell so that's gonna be a wonderful addition to the card for me :OhYes:
Can't stand the tosser either! Hopefully he gets lit up!

Re: Deontay Wilder (WBC) vs. Luis Ortiz - March 3rd 2018

Posted: 25 Feb 2018, 04:19
by jamamb
1 week till the guy hyped as the boogyman gets put to sleep by deontay :D

tell me he doesnt beat good opponents then :TU:

let me guess, suddenly joe parker and jarrell miller are better then ortiz :lol:

Re: Deontay Wilder (WBC) vs. Luis Ortiz - March 3rd 2018

Posted: 26 Feb 2018, 12:57
by wesshaw1985


Re: Deontay Wilder (WBC) vs. Luis Ortiz - March 3rd 2018

Posted: 27 Feb 2018, 04:25
by handsofstone
I felt a bit sorry for Wilder, his resume is pretty mediocre but it wasn't his fault that Povetkin and Ortiz were cheating bastards, those would've been 2 good scalps and I think he'll put it right with Ortiz this weekend, I'm not really sold on Ortiz he's missed the boat, he looks ancient, he wont be overawed by Wilder which is a good thing and Wilder wont have fought anyone with his power before but you can say the same vice versa

Ortiz is slow as hell and labours a lot more these days, he was awful against Scott and really a world class puncher should be getting guys like Allen out of there a lot early, Wilder cemented his superiority over Stiverne easily last time out and I think he'll prove too hot to handle for Ortiz and I can see him finishing him off in around 3 rounds, Ortiz is just too slow to get out of the way

It'll be interesting to see Ortiz tag Wilder and Ortiz looks durable but he hasn't been in with any punchers, Wilder should deal with him pretty easily

Re: Deontay Wilder (WBC) vs. Luis Ortiz - March 3rd 2018

Posted: 28 Feb 2018, 14:38
by ElJefe
Apparently Ortiz is weighing around 226, hasn't been that low in years.

Re: Deontay Wilder (WBC) vs. Luis Ortiz - March 3rd 2018

Posted: 28 Feb 2018, 14:51
by asdfjkl
handsofstone wrote: 27 Feb 2018, 04:25 I felt a bit sorry for Wilder, his resume is pretty mediocre but it wasn't his fault that Povetkin and Ortiz were cheating bastards, those would've been 2 good scalps and I think he'll put it right with Ortiz this weekend, I'm not really sold on Ortiz he's missed the boat, he looks ancient, he wont be overawed by Wilder which is a good thing and Wilder wont have fought anyone with his power before but you can say the same vice versa

Ortiz is slow as hell and labours a lot more these days, he was awful against Scott and really a world class puncher should be getting guys like Allen out of there a lot early, Wilder cemented his superiority over Stiverne easily last time out and I think he'll prove too hot to handle for Ortiz and I can see him finishing him off in around 3 rounds, Ortiz is just too slow to get out of the way

It'll be interesting to see Ortiz tag Wilder and Ortiz looks durable but he hasn't been in with any punchers, Wilder should deal with him pretty easily
They aren't cheaters, and he also avoided Briggs, Miller, Pulev, Jennings, Chagaev, Wach, Chisora, Klitschko, name them. Actually, he allways avoided all risk, I would still be surprised if he actually fights Ortiz on 3 march, or actually ever at all.

Re: Deontay Wilder (WBC) vs. Luis Ortiz - March 3rd 2018

Posted: 28 Feb 2018, 15:54
by nitro5912
asdfjkl wrote: 28 Feb 2018, 14:51
handsofstone wrote: 27 Feb 2018, 04:25 I felt a bit sorry for Wilder, his resume is pretty mediocre but it wasn't his fault that Povetkin and Ortiz were cheating bastards, those would've been 2 good scalps and I think he'll put it right with Ortiz this weekend, I'm not really sold on Ortiz he's missed the boat, he looks ancient, he wont be overawed by Wilder which is a good thing and Wilder wont have fought anyone with his power before but you can say the same vice versa

Ortiz is slow as hell and labours a lot more these days, he was awful against Scott and really a world class puncher should be getting guys like Allen out of there a lot early, Wilder cemented his superiority over Stiverne easily last time out and I think he'll prove too hot to handle for Ortiz and I can see him finishing him off in around 3 rounds, Ortiz is just too slow to get out of the way

It'll be interesting to see Ortiz tag Wilder and Ortiz looks durable but he hasn't been in with any punchers, Wilder should deal with him pretty easily
They aren't cheaters, and he also avoided Briggs, Miller, Pulev, Jennings, Chagaev, Wach, Chisora, Klitschko, name them. Actually, he allways avoided all risk, I would still be surprised if he actually fights Ortiz on 3 march, or actually ever at all.
Failing a drugs test is pretty damning evidence that they cheated.

Now ortiz might be telling the truth and as the levels were so low. But povetkin had no such excuse.

Re: Deontay Wilder (WBC) vs. Luis Ortiz - March 3rd 2018

Posted: 28 Feb 2018, 20:29
by asdfjkl
nitro5912 wrote: 28 Feb 2018, 15:54
asdfjkl wrote: 28 Feb 2018, 14:51
handsofstone wrote: 27 Feb 2018, 04:25 I felt a bit sorry for Wilder, his resume is pretty mediocre but it wasn't his fault that Povetkin and Ortiz were cheating bastards, those would've been 2 good scalps and I think he'll put it right with Ortiz this weekend, I'm not really sold on Ortiz he's missed the boat, he looks ancient, he wont be overawed by Wilder which is a good thing and Wilder wont have fought anyone with his power before but you can say the same vice versa

Ortiz is slow as hell and labours a lot more these days, he was awful against Scott and really a world class puncher should be getting guys like Allen out of there a lot early, Wilder cemented his superiority over Stiverne easily last time out and I think he'll prove too hot to handle for Ortiz and I can see him finishing him off in around 3 rounds, Ortiz is just too slow to get out of the way

It'll be interesting to see Ortiz tag Wilder and Ortiz looks durable but he hasn't been in with any punchers, Wilder should deal with him pretty easily
They aren't cheaters, and he also avoided Briggs, Miller, Pulev, Jennings, Chagaev, Wach, Chisora, Klitschko, name them. Actually, he allways avoided all risk, I would still be surprised if he actually fights Ortiz on 3 march, or actually ever at all.
Failing a drugs test is pretty damning evidence that they cheated.

Now ortiz might be telling the truth and as the levels were so low. But povetkin had no such excuse.
Are you kidding me? Ortiz his first drug test was against a bum, so he probably did that by accident. The 2nd time he didn't have drugs, they just claim he used medicines that could in theory also be used as a "masking agent". It's like a cop seeing you drinking water and occuses you for being drunk. Not that you drunk alcohol, but you might have, it's just masked by water. Povetkin had absolute minimum values lol, 70 nanogram, in wada/vada their own modern rules he would be allowed to fight right now 2 years after the ban with the same values. Wada/vada just wasn't educated enough at the time and Wilder and his team abused the Americans their stupidity to avoid the fight.

Re: Deontay Wilder (WBC) vs. Luis Ortiz - March 3rd 2018

Posted: 01 Mar 2018, 04:48
by handsofstone
asdfjkl wrote: 28 Feb 2018, 20:29
nitro5912 wrote: 28 Feb 2018, 15:54
asdfjkl wrote: 28 Feb 2018, 14:51
They aren't cheaters, and he also avoided Briggs, Miller, Pulev, Jennings, Chagaev, Wach, Chisora, Klitschko, name them. Actually, he allways avoided all risk, I would still be surprised if he actually fights Ortiz on 3 march, or actually ever at all.
Failing a drugs test is pretty damning evidence that they cheated.

Now ortiz might be telling the truth and as the levels were so low. But povetkin had no such excuse.
Are you kidding me? Ortiz his first drug test was against a bum, so he probably did that by accident. The 2nd time he didn't have drugs, they just claim he used medicines that could in theory also be used as a "masking agent". It's like a cop seeing you drinking water and occuses you for being drunk. Not that you drunk alcohol, but you might have, it's just masked by water. Povetkin had absolute minimum values lol, 70 nanogram, in wada/vada their own modern rules he would be allowed to fight right now 2 years after the ban with the same values. Wada/vada just wasn't educated enough at the time and Wilder and his team abused the Americans their stupidity to avoid the fight.
The 2nd sentence tells me everything I need to know about what an absolute melt you are, you really do seem to have a thing or 2 against American Heavyweights

What happened? Were you arse raped by the US Olympic boxing team whilst working at the London Olympics as a volunteer?

In that case its understandable, I feel your pain arsejiffy

Re: Deontay Wilder (WBC) vs. Luis Ortiz - March 3rd 2018

Posted: 01 Mar 2018, 05:11
by asdfjkl
handsofstone wrote: 01 Mar 2018, 04:48
asdfjkl wrote: 28 Feb 2018, 20:29
nitro5912 wrote: 28 Feb 2018, 15:54
Failing a drugs test is pretty damning evidence that they cheated.

Now ortiz might be telling the truth and as the levels were so low. But povetkin had no such excuse.
Are you kidding me? Ortiz his first drug test was against a bum, so he probably did that by accident. The 2nd time he didn't have drugs, they just claim he used medicines that could in theory also be used as a "masking agent". It's like a cop seeing you drinking water and occuses you for being drunk. Not that you drunk alcohol, but you might have, it's just masked by water. Povetkin had absolute minimum values lol, 70 nanogram, in wada/vada their own modern rules he would be allowed to fight right now 2 years after the ban with the same values. Wada/vada just wasn't educated enough at the time and Wilder and his team abused the Americans their stupidity to avoid the fight.
The 2nd sentence tells me everything I need to know about what an absolute melt you are, you really do seem to have a thing or 2 against American Heavyweights

What happened? Were you arse raped by the US Olympic boxing team whilst working at the London Olympics as a volunteer?

In that case its understandable, I feel your pain arsejiffy
I've never been in any country in the world with English as a main language.
I just don't like liers and cheaters, and sometimes I'm annoyed by retards, that's all.
I like Miller, Kownacki (you may decide if he's American or not), Breazeale, Mansour, just to name a few, so it has nothing to do with beïng an American. It's more the American retards that I don't like.
As far as I know there were only a few American no hopers, and a few girls in the London Olympics, the girls clearly did best.
On top of that, one of the no hopers was actually a guy I like and mentioned above called Breazeale, but he lost in the first round.

Re: Deontay Wilder (WBC) vs. Luis Ortiz - March 3rd 2018

Posted: 01 Mar 2018, 08:51
by wesshaw1985

Re: Deontay Wilder (WBC) vs. Luis Ortiz - March 3rd 2018

Posted: 01 Mar 2018, 13:44
by Mimmy
Final press conference live very soon not sure the time but it will be on Showtime Boxing facebook page. Its on now just waiting for it to start.

Re: Deontay Wilder (WBC) vs. Luis Ortiz - March 3rd 2018

Posted: 01 Mar 2018, 17:44
by wesshaw1985


Re: Deontay Wilder (WBC) vs. Luis Ortiz - March 3rd 2018

Posted: 01 Mar 2018, 17:57
by ElJefe
Rumours that Ortiz has injured his hand. Think I saw that it was his right as he kept a glove on during the press conference.

Re: WHO WINS? Deontay Wilder vs. Luis Ortiz

Posted: 02 Mar 2018, 11:37
by HellraiserBoxing

Re: Deontay Wilder (WBC) vs. Luis Ortiz - March 3rd 2018

Posted: 02 Mar 2018, 13:51
by wesshaw1985

Re: Deontay Wilder (WBC) vs. Luis Ortiz - March 3rd 2018

Posted: 02 Mar 2018, 14:18
by nitro5912
How will wilder react if ortiz doesn't buckle under his punches?

Since stiverne 1, the only guy he has got out inside 4rounds is stiverne.

Washington in 5, but the rest have all gone at least 8. How will wilder cope if ortiz is competitive and not tiring?

Re: Deontay Wilder (WBC) vs. Luis Ortiz - March 3rd 2018

Posted: 02 Mar 2018, 18:47
by Ruthless-RKO
WIlder has come just in really light.

Re: Deontay Wilder (WBC) vs. Luis Ortiz - March 3rd 2018

Posted: 02 Mar 2018, 19:13
by Nightmare Roy
15 stone 2 lbs, AJ will absolutely snap him in half, CW come in higher than that!

Re: Deontay Wilder (WBC) vs. Luis Ortiz - March 3rd 2018

Posted: 02 Mar 2018, 19:16
by jamamb
although i wonder how heavy most hws would actually be if they were ripped