Johnny Nelson

Vincent stevenson
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Re: Johnny Nelson

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Stuarty30 wrote: 01 Jan 2018, 23:09 What a total wank piece! He is the definition of a company man! Total sell out! There was a thing on Sky website and they were talking about who are the best prospects... Nelson says Conor Benn! What a tit..
I agree he's a company man and I also agree sort of that he's a tit ( although I wouldn't say it to his 6ft 4inch high face ) but I also agree with Johnny over Connor Benn. Boxing opinions ehh? Gotta love em
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Re: Johnny Nelson

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benn has showed nothing in the ring to support that hes the best or even an elite prospect. thats just ppl seeing the name and thinking it must mean hell be really good. but look at all the offspring of top fighters who were mediocre and not at all like daddy. more than end up being top fighters. looking at what hes shown i simply see no reason to put him at or near the very top of the list.

the hype machine has been trying its best with him. but his opposition has been awful and even then he arguably didnt deserve a win last fight against 5-5 #488. down multiple times and eyes shut

he may end up being really good but hes not showing it and we cant just assume from the name that hell eventually be a top guy.
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Re: Johnny Nelson

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jamamb wrote: 02 Jan 2018, 18:29 benn has showed nothing in the ring to support that hes the best or even an elite prospect. thats just ppl seeing the name and thinking it must mean hell be really good. but look at all the offspring of top fighters who were mediocre and not at all like daddy. more than end up being top fighters. looking at what hes shown i simply see no reason to put him at or near the very top of the list.

the hype machine has been trying its best with him. but his opposition has been awful and even then he arguably didnt deserve a win last fight against 5-5 #488. down multiple times and eyes shut

he may end up being really good but hes not showing it and we cant just assume from the name that hell eventually be a top guy.
THAT'S exactly what I'm talking about mate. It's all about opinions. Great isn't it
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Re: Johnny Nelson

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Vincent stevenson wrote: 02 Jan 2018, 18:46
jamamb wrote: 02 Jan 2018, 18:29 benn has showed nothing in the ring to support that hes the best or even an elite prospect. thats just ppl seeing the name and thinking it must mean hell be really good. but look at all the offspring of top fighters who were mediocre and not at all like daddy. more than end up being top fighters. looking at what hes shown i simply see no reason to put him at or near the very top of the list.

the hype machine has been trying its best with him. but his opposition has been awful and even then he arguably didnt deserve a win last fight against 5-5 #488. down multiple times and eyes shut

he may end up being really good but hes not showing it and we cant just assume from the name that hell eventually be a top guy.
THAT'S exactly what I'm talking about mate. It's all about opinions. Great isn't it
What is it that you like about him? Heard Bellew saying he liked him as well on Sky and he's more independent than Nelson etc. Although I think he was also talking about how much he liked his dad so was possibly swayed by that. I haven't been too impressed myself, seems to have all the athletic tools but seriously needs to improve his defence.
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Re: Johnny Nelson

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ElJefe wrote: 02 Jan 2018, 18:50
Vincent stevenson wrote: 02 Jan 2018, 18:46
jamamb wrote: 02 Jan 2018, 18:29 benn has showed nothing in the ring to support that hes the best or even an elite prospect. thats just ppl seeing the name and thinking it must mean hell be really good. but look at all the offspring of top fighters who were mediocre and not at all like daddy. more than end up being top fighters. looking at what hes shown i simply see no reason to put him at or near the very top of the list.

the hype machine has been trying its best with him. but his opposition has been awful and even then he arguably didnt deserve a win last fight against 5-5 #488. down multiple times and eyes shut

he may end up being really good but hes not showing it and we cant just assume from the name that hell eventually be a top guy.
THAT'S exactly what I'm talking about mate. It's all about opinions. Great isn't it
What is it that you like about him? Heard Bellew saying he liked him as well on Sky and he's more independent than Nelson etc. Although I think he was also talking about how much he liked his dad so was possibly swayed by that. I haven't been too impressed myself, seems to have all the athletic tools but seriously needs to improve his defence.
I like his attitude and willingness to dig deep . I like that he's picked himself off the floor to win. These are things that you cannot teach or install in a fighter they either have them or not. You can have 100 amateur fights and all the international experience you want but the pro game is soooo different. I also like his ability to learn. The kid was throwing timed counter punches in his last few fights. Shots that it takes not only years but big big balls to throw let alone land. Yes he's still learning but he's learning under serious pressure with millions watching.
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Re: Johnny Nelson

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Vincent stevenson wrote: 02 Jan 2018, 18:58
ElJefe wrote: 02 Jan 2018, 18:50
Vincent stevenson wrote: 02 Jan 2018, 18:46
THAT'S exactly what I'm talking about mate. It's all about opinions. Great isn't it
What is it that you like about him? Heard Bellew saying he liked him as well on Sky and he's more independent than Nelson etc. Although I think he was also talking about how much he liked his dad so was possibly swayed by that. I haven't been too impressed myself, seems to have all the athletic tools but seriously needs to improve his defence.
I like his attitude and willingness to dig deep . I like that he's picked himself off the floor to win. These are things that you cannot teach or install in a fighter they either have them or not. You can have 100 amateur fights and all the international experience you want but the pro game is soooo different. I also like his ability to learn. The kid was throwing timed counter punches in his last few fights. Shots that it takes not only years but big big balls to throw let alone land. Yes he's still learning but he's learning under serious pressure with millions watching.
He's garbage man! If his second name wasn't Benn Sky wouldn't be bothering their arse and Nekson wouldn't be pushing the agenda! It's sickening!
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Re: Johnny Nelson

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Stuarty30 wrote: 02 Jan 2018, 19:07
Vincent stevenson wrote: 02 Jan 2018, 18:58
ElJefe wrote: 02 Jan 2018, 18:50

What is it that you like about him? Heard Bellew saying he liked him as well on Sky and he's more independent than Nelson etc. Although I think he was also talking about how much he liked his dad so was possibly swayed by that. I haven't been too impressed myself, seems to have all the athletic tools but seriously needs to improve his defence.
I like his attitude and willingness to dig deep . I like that he's picked himself off the floor to win. These are things that you cannot teach or install in a fighter they either have them or not. You can have 100 amateur fights and all the international experience you want but the pro game is soooo different. I also like his ability to learn. The kid was throwing timed counter punches in his last few fights. Shots that it takes not only years but big big balls to throw let alone land. Yes he's still learning but he's learning under serious pressure with millions watching.
He's garbage man! If his second name wasn't Benn Sky wouldn't be bothering their arse and Nekson wouldn't be pushing the agenda! It's sickening!
Jeepers that's a bit harsh mate. Although I agree that if he was just a normal novice pro with no amateur experience he would be nowhere near sky shows and even boxing in the states. But come on this is pro boxing it's a show and it's all about if you can sell tickets or if your surname can sell tickets. Is it nice ? No
Is it fair ? Hell no
But that's pro boxing .
Many an outstanding fighter has gone by the wayside because he can't sell tickets
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Re: Johnny Nelson

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Vincent stevenson wrote: 02 Jan 2018, 19:15
Stuarty30 wrote: 02 Jan 2018, 19:07
Vincent stevenson wrote: 02 Jan 2018, 18:58
I like his attitude and willingness to dig deep . I like that he's picked himself off the floor to win. These are things that you cannot teach or install in a fighter they either have them or not. You can have 100 amateur fights and all the international experience you want but the pro game is soooo different. I also like his ability to learn. The kid was throwing timed counter punches in his last few fights. Shots that it takes not only years but big big balls to throw let alone land. Yes he's still learning but he's learning under serious pressure with millions watching.
He's garbage man! If his second name wasn't Benn Sky wouldn't be bothering their arse and Nekson wouldn't be pushing the agenda! It's sickening!
Jeepers that's a bit harsh mate. Although I agree that if he was just a normal novice pro with no amateur experience he would be nowhere near sky shows and even boxing in the states. But come on this is pro boxing it's a show and it's all about if you can sell tickets or if your surname can sell tickets. Is it nice ? No
Is it fair ? Hell no
But that's pro boxing .
Many an outstanding fighter has gone by the wayside because he can't sell tickets
I get what you're saying mate but what I said is true! I've got mates who were highly decorated amateurs (as I was) who turned pro and never got the time of day because they weren't big ticket sellers. Conor Benn is garbage. O'Hara Davies would make easy work of hm and he was slapped around off Taylor! He's nowhere near the level Sky try and say he is!
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Re: Johnny Nelson

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Wales wrote: 02 Jan 2018, 03:16Colin Hart is another one.
Colin Hart is the worst. The guy comes up with boxing stories that aren't even historically accurate. He tells the story of the Marciano title defense against Moore - when Moore knocked him down, the referee spent "an age" wiping Marciano's gloves to give The Rock a chance to clear his head.

Absolute horseshit.

Hart also tells stories of Ted Kid Lewis - telling of his "homecoming fight" and the crowds had lined the streets to see him etc...
He makes him out to be some sort of a Muhammad Ali figure.
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Re: Johnny Nelson

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Orionx wrote: 02 Jan 2018, 17:57
banjo wrote: 02 Jan 2018, 12:53 I like it when he sits backwards on his chair.

Who the eff started that shite anyway? AJ? :doh:
Max Kellerman does it on Face Off and seeing how Gloves Are Off is total rip off everyone has to do it there too.

He is a knob but Floyd turned his chair round on one of them and sat on the chair like a normal person. It was probably the most likeable thing he ever did.
It really boils my piss when they do this, because they have been told to do so. They look like twats props to mayweather
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