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sure, deontay, just manage your career
as you did up to now and that won't be
a thing.

regarding you breaking all the records,
all your abilities and so on, maybe you
step up two notches, fight world class
opposition before you talk about that
again.

what a joke.

IronFrost wrote: ↑06 Jan 2018, 11:46Maybe Wilder should fight bums like Vitali Klitschko did , it would boost his legacy and he would became ATG

check out both men's record here on
boxrec and compare the stars their
fights got, which indicates the quality
of opposition.

and out goes your argument.

man wrote: ↑06 Jan 2018, 18:39

IronFrost wrote: ↑06 Jan 2018, 11:46Maybe Wilder should fight bums like Vitali Klitschko did , it would boost his legacy and he would became ATG

check out both men's record here on
boxrec and compare the stars their
fights got, which indicates the quality
of opposition.

and out goes your argument.

That dude DKSAB!

man wrote: ↑06 Jan 2018, 18:39

IronFrost wrote: ↑06 Jan 2018, 11:46Maybe Wilder should fight bums like Vitali Klitschko did , it would boost his legacy and he would became ATG

check out both men's record here on
boxrec and compare the stars their
fights got, which indicates the quality
of opposition.

and out goes your argument.

3-star or greater fights
Vitali: 24
Wilder: 9

4-star or greater fights
Vitali: 15
Wilder: 2

5-star fights
Vitali: 6
Wilder: 0

Peak rating
Vitali: 615
Wilder: 305

Highest opponent's rating
Vitali: 879
Wilder: 228

Wilder and Joshua are NOT the world champion

funso banjo baby wrote: ↑07 Jan 2018, 17:47 Wilder and Joshua are NOT the world champion

That is such a stupid, blatantly false statement, I don't even know what to say.

TBH the guy who would beat fat Tyson Fury is gonna be the real champion. Fury is the lineal champion.

This sounded like a completely ridiculous statement until I checked his record and realised he's already 39-0. I thought he was about 33-0. I don't think he beats Joshua or Fury personally though and as he seems as though he genuinely wants to fight them, I think he'll take a loss (by KO) before he gets to 50.

Truth be told, Floyd's record isn't even valid. Many boxers went past it, and kept on fighting. His farce of a match vs the mma guy, forget his name, didn't even count unless you hug Floyds nuts to no end.

Just an example, Gene Tunney with one loss to Harry Greb, and avenging that loss at least 3 times is much more impressive, ending at 79-1. That is just one example. I could list at least 10 other records more impressive than Floyd's. Bringing up Wilder's name in the same thread as the former great boxers is a disgrace.

Lackeos wrote: ↑07 Jan 2018, 13:42

man wrote: ↑06 Jan 2018, 18:39

IronFrost wrote: ↑06 Jan 2018, 11:46Maybe Wilder should fight bums like Vitali Klitschko did , it would boost his legacy and he would became ATG

check out both men's record here on
boxrec and compare the stars their
fights got, which indicates the quality
of opposition.

and out goes your argument.

3-star or greater fights
Vitali: 24
Wilder: 9

4-star or greater fights
Vitali: 15
Wilder: 2

5-star fights
Vitali: 6
Wilder: 0

Peak rating
Vitali: 615
Wilder: 305

Highest opponent's rating
Vitali: 879
Wilder: 228

man wrote: ↑09 Jan 2018, 14:19

Lackeos wrote: ↑07 Jan 2018, 13:42

man wrote: ↑06 Jan 2018, 18:39
check out both men's record here on
boxrec and compare the stars their
fights got, which indicates the quality
of opposition.

and out goes your argument.

3-star or greater fights
Vitali: 24
Wilder: 9

4-star or greater fights
Vitali: 15
Wilder: 2

5-star fights
Vitali: 6
Wilder: 0

Peak rating
Vitali: 615
Wilder: 305

Highest opponent's rating
Vitali: 879
Wilder: 228

Vit didn't beat his first 5 Star fighter until he was 32. Wilder just turned 32.

Tony1244 wrote: ↑09 Jan 2018, 14:25

man wrote: ↑09 Jan 2018, 14:19

Lackeos wrote: ↑07 Jan 2018, 13:42
3-star or greater fights
Vitali: 24
Wilder: 9

4-star or greater fights
Vitali: 15
Wilder: 2

5-star fights
Vitali: 6
Wilder: 0

Peak rating
Vitali: 615
Wilder: 305

Highest opponent's rating
Vitali: 879
Wilder: 228

Vit didn't beat his first 5 Star fighter until he was 32. Wilder just turned 32.

These points have some validity. But they don't fully support the troll poster IronFrost's original troll claim that Vitali fought bums. Vitali's last 15 opponents were all 3-star or better, not bums. Although, some of those opponents were not exactly worth writing home about.

Floyd fought for a wbc world title in his 18th fight, Wilder fought a dude who had lost 11 fights in his.

SenorPipino wrote: ↑06 Jan 2018, 10:24
The heavyweight division isn't exactly loaded with 70s era talent

70's era talent hadn't been seen since 1930's "Bum of the Month Club"..... Alfredo Evangelista... Chuck Wepner... Jean Pierre Coopman... Leon Stinky... Terry Daniels... Dave Zyglewitz... Manuel Ramos... Ron Stander... Richard Dunn... WOOO BABY!!!!!

What great Heavyweight Challengers the 1970's was loaded with -- How did those fart bags get title shots!?!?!?!

TOP 40 HEAVYWEIGHTS TODAY... Strongest and most International the top Heavyweight ranks ever were

1. Anthony Joshua... 2. Luis Ortiz... 3. Deontay Wilder... 4. Alexander Povetkin... 5. Joseph Parker... 6. Jarrell Miller... 7. Dominic Breazeale... 8. Andy Ruiz... 9. Carlos Takam... 10. Dillian Whyte 11. Kubrat Pulev... 12. Hughie Fury... 13. David Haye... 14. Bryant Jennings... 15. Johann Duhaupas... 16. Tom Schwarz... 17. Gerald Washington... 18. Charles Martin... 19. Christian Hammer... 20. Oscar Rivas... 21. Izuagbe Ugonoh... 22. Jun Long Zhang.... 23. Dereck Chisora... 24. Ruslan Chagaev... 25. Otto Wallin... 26. Artur Szpilka... 27. Amir Mansour… 28. Bermane Stiverne... 29. Czar Glazkov... 30. Robert Helenius... 31. Eric Molina... 32. Tony Bellew… 33. Malik Scott... 34. Erkan Tepper... 35. Alexander Ustinov... 36. Adam Kownacki... 37. Lucas Browne... 38. Francesco Pianeta... 39. Carlos Negron... 40. Andriy Rudenko

Wilder won't make 51-0.... He's dreaming.

If he wanted to get there he would have had to pad his first 40 fights up like Marciano did and not win a title until he had 43 fights... Then he could pad up his first 8 or 9 Title Defenses and break the record...

As it is, he'll be faced with AJ before he get close to 51 fights... Joshua is a very good boxer and DW is getting knocked cold when he takes that fight... Ortiz is going to be 39 years old... If he were 37 he would stretch Wilder out like a bear rug... It's still an extremely risky fight - because Ortiz is a very good boxer and puncher though he's slowed down a bit like Povetkin.

Deontay hasn't fought a good boxer yet.... Remember Foreman??? .... He never met a good boxer for 40 fights either.

Such a sad state for the WBC Heavyweight champion to have a 39-0 padded record. Clearly advert ducking Joshua in my opinion asking for a 50:50 split just proves that Wilder just want's to pad his record and leave Boxing without legitimate fights. The only positive is that his fight's are entertaining, well let's see what the first live opponent in Luis Ortiz offers us in March, but making outlandish statements from himself or his team only alienate more boxing fans away from him.