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Lennox wrote: ↑09 Jan 2018, 11:41

Mexi-Box wrote: ↑09 Jan 2018, 11:33 Takam would be my pick. Duhaupus got crushed by Povetkin while Takam was competitive. He was also competitive against Joshua.

Surprised that Kuzmin got a lot of backlash from the Mansour fight. Guy was on his way to winning it until it was stopped. Considering how garbage the top 10 is currently, I think a win over Mansour would be enough to get Kuzmin into the top 10.

Takam is already in. Kuzmin is still too unproven to be top 10 with a Mansour win. I think Mansour is ok at a top 20 level. I think it has to be who like you best out of the Hammer-Wach-Duhauppas but I certainly agree the quality is pretty thin beyond the 8 or 9 level.

Damn, I missed that. Out of Hammer, Wach, and Duhaupus, I'd probably say Hammer deserves it the most. Pulled off upsets against Price, Teper, and he didn't get blown out by Povetkin. He was more competitive, at least, than Wach and Duhaupus.

Mexi-Box wrote: ↑09 Jan 2018, 17:01

Lennox wrote: ↑09 Jan 2018, 11:41

Mexi-Box wrote: ↑09 Jan 2018, 11:33 Takam would be my pick. Duhaupus got crushed by Povetkin while Takam was competitive. He was also competitive against Joshua.

Surprised that Kuzmin got a lot of backlash from the Mansour fight. Guy was on his way to winning it until it was stopped. Considering how garbage the top 10 is currently, I think a win over Mansour would be enough to get Kuzmin into the top 10.

Takam is already in. Kuzmin is still too unproven to be top 10 with a Mansour win. I think Mansour is ok at a top 20 level. I think it has to be who like you best out of the Hammer-Wach-Duhauppas but I certainly agree the quality is pretty thin beyond the 8 or 9 level.

Damn, I missed that. Out of Hammer, Wach, and Duhaupus, I'd probably say Hammer deserves it the most. Pulled off upsets against Price, Teper, and he didn't get blown out by Povetkin. He was more competitive, at least, than Wach and Duhaupus.

yeah i think id agree with you....just so poor outside the top 8-9

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑09 Jan 2018, 13:42 Kuzmin wasn't winning that fight. Nothing really happened. The way it was going, Mansour was getting the better of him.

yes kuzmin was winning , pretty clearly too.

I agree with that and I just re-watched it to make sure I hadn't remembered it wrong - I hadn't.

Kuzmin had Mansour boxing off the back-foot throughout, and looking distinctly uncomfortable after the halfway point in the second round, and again at the start of the third. Mansour was firing back sporadically but at no point before the clash of heads did he even ruffle Kuzmin's feathers. Kuzmin impressed me with his methodical pressure and the calm way he would step back out of range any time Mansour tried to muster an attack, never losing concentration and only rarely allowing Mansour to connect.

For me there was only going to be one winner and I reckon Sergei Kuzmin would be likely to beat quite a few of those rated in the top 15. I admire Amir Mansour as a real warrior, even the fact he went to Russia to fight the local hero is evidence of that, but at his age he isn't getting any better.

If you check the recent thread on top 15 heavyweights, it would be a simple matter to find the forum's answer to your question.

1 Anthony Joshua 20-0-0 (20)
2 Deontay Wilder 40-0-0 (39)
3 Joseph Parker 24-0-0 (18)
4 Luis Ortiz 28-1-0 (24)
5 Kubrat Pulev 25-1-0 (13)
6 Alexander Povetkin 33-1-0 (23)
7 Dillian Whyte 22-1-0 (16)
8 Carlos Takam 35-4-1 (27)
9 Jarrell Miller 20-0-1 (18)
10 Dominic Breazeale 19-1-0 (17)

Current list.. Ortiz entered at 4 after his loss to Wilder and Bellew was bumped out.

Simon Keane.

oogiebe wrote: ↑16 Mar 2018, 12:05 Simon Keane.

When's he stepping up?

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑16 Mar 2018, 12:14

oogiebe wrote: ↑16 Mar 2018, 12:05 Simon Keane.

When's he stepping up?

Who the heck knows...that's why he's not in the top 10 yet. His next fight is against that terrifying, very experienced, Ignacio Esparza who celebrates his 41st birthday this year. Oh...did I mention he's a cruiserweight who spent a lot of time at the twinkie factory?!

oogiebe wrote: ↑16 Mar 2018, 12:18

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑16 Mar 2018, 12:14

oogiebe wrote: ↑16 Mar 2018, 12:05 Simon Keane.

When's he stepping up?

Who the heck knows...that's why he's not in the top 10 yet. His next fight is against that terrifying, very experienced, Ignacio Esparza who celebrates his 41st birthday this year. Oh...did I mention he's a cruiserweight who spent a lot of time at the twinkie factory?!

He's already 29.. yeh he might have had 13 fights or so but he should start making some noise..

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑16 Mar 2018, 13:29

oogiebe wrote: ↑16 Mar 2018, 12:18

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑16 Mar 2018, 12:14

When's he stepping up?

Who the heck knows...that's why he's not in the top 10 yet. His next fight is against that terrifying, very experienced, Ignacio Esparza who celebrates his 41st birthday this year. Oh...did I mention he's a cruiserweight who spent a lot of time at the twinkie factory?!

He's already 29.. yeh he might have had 13 fights or so but he should start making some noise..

lf you read my entire post, I really had no one else. The bottom 6 of the top 10 don't even belong there.

You have Tony Bellew ranked above Luis Ortiz. Therefore, you are on crack.

Lackeos wrote: ↑16 Mar 2018, 18:45 You have Tony Bellew ranked above Luis Ortiz. Therefore, you are on crack.

Who has Bellew above Ortiz?

Think we are all forgeting about the White Rhino.

No, in all seriousness, I would say Joyce or Hrgovic. Both of them seen keen on making huge leaps as prospects. Both could well easily be in the mix of the top 10 in 12 to 24 months time.

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑16 Mar 2018, 18:58

Lackeos wrote: ↑16 Mar 2018, 18:45 You have Tony Bellew ranked above Luis Ortiz. Therefore, you are on crack.

Who has Bellew above Ortiz?

The TRBR list. ... And literally no one else on the planet.

Lackeos wrote: ↑16 Mar 2018, 23:14

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑16 Mar 2018, 18:58

Lackeos wrote: ↑16 Mar 2018, 18:45 You have Tony Bellew ranked above Luis Ortiz. Therefore, you are on crack.

Who has Bellew above Ortiz?

The TRBR list. ... And literally no one else on the planet.

They updated the list if you scroll up. Ortiz was only removed due to the drugs tests late last year..

From the ones you didn't name?
Tyson Fury
Junlong Zhang
Andy Ruiz Jr
Hughie Fury
Rivas
Spong
Zhilei Zhang
Dubois
Plechko


I also think Luis Ortiz should be named, these guys used to have Stiverne in as well, just like Wilder.

asdfjkl wrote: ↑17 Mar 2018, 10:29 From the ones you didn't name?
Tyson Fury
Junlong Zhang
Andy Ruiz Jr
Hughie Fury
Rivas
Spong
Zhilei Zhang
Dubois
Plechko


I also think Luis Ortiz should be named, these guys used to have Stiverne in as well, just like Wilder.

I re-posted a new list..

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑16 Mar 2018, 11:43
Current list.. Ortiz entered at 4 after his loss to Wilder and Bellew was bumped out.

I should have updated it on the first post

I am inclined to say that Dillian Whyte may be the best of the rest. But we should just wait a week and let the honor go to the Browne - Whyte winner. It is not easy to pick between Whyte, Chisora, Kabayel, Hammer, Kownacki, Wach, Hughie Fury, Ruiz Jr., and Duhaupas. But it is extremely easy to say that the winner of Whyte - Browne is in and Breazeale is out.

Browne after he KOs Whyte.

If Tubby Tyson gets his ass back in the ring after a tune up, he’d clearly also feature.

Lackeos wrote: ↑17 Mar 2018, 13:51 I am inclined to say that Dillian Whyte may be the best of the rest. But we should just wait a week and let the honor go to the Browne - Whyte winner. It is not easy to pick between Whyte, Chisora, Kabayel, Hammer, Kownacki, Wach, Hughie Fury, Ruiz Jr., and Duhaupas. But it is extremely easy to say that the winner of Whyte - Browne is in and Breazeale is out.

Whyte is already in top 10.. goes to show how poor the division is..

If/when Browne wins, he enters the top 10

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑17 Mar 2018, 15:27

Lackeos wrote: ↑17 Mar 2018, 13:51 I am inclined to say that Dillian Whyte may be the best of the rest. But we should just wait a week and let the honor go to the Browne - Whyte winner. It is not easy to pick between Whyte, Chisora, Kabayel, Hammer, Kownacki, Wach, Hughie Fury, Ruiz Jr., and Duhaupas. But it is extremely easy to say that the winner of Whyte - Browne is in and Breazeale is out.

Whyte is already in top 10.. goes to show how poor the division is..

If/when Browne wins, he enters the top 10

LOL!!! The division is exciting to us only because no more Vitali and Wlad. It's just more competitive. Else...it isn't the best.