Clinton Woods

[Counter-puncher]

Non boxing fans who follow one particular boxer are always the worst. Wasn't it Rob McCracken v Steve the Viking Foster* that had Brum v Citeh fans kick off.

And that ain't the only time.

p.s. Just had a look at that bill. Decent card.

Fosters fans are red

50-50 & I f*ck it up

McCrackens fans were city, at least

[mickey1975]

I was there as well, with Wharton. Not one traveller got involved. Paul Massey was fighting away like there was no tomorrow. McCrackens brother, Spencer was a Zulu so I think they thought they could do what they liked, they couldn't. Salford had them done in to be honest. I don't think McCrackens fans knew who they were taking on. Wharton fans just sat, watching. It was pretty bad, though. Probably the worst I've seen.

[Taansend]

Fosters fans are red

50-50 & I f*ck it up

McCrackens fans were city, at least

[mickey1975]

All Salford is red.

[Counter-puncher]

I was there as well, with Wharton. Not one traveller got involved. Paul Massey was fighting away like there was no tomorrow. McCrackens brother, Spencer was a Zulu so I think they thought they could do what they liked, they couldn't. Salford had them done in to be honest. I don't think McCrackens fans knew who they were taking on. Wharton fans just sat, watching. It was pretty bad, though. Probably the worst I've seen.

Yeah, it's the one that gets held up as the worst even by people who've seen a lot of it

Spencer is, shall we say, not a popular man in most circles round here. A certain look comes on people's face when his names mentioned, like, wary distaste.

[Nightmare Roy]

Non boxing fans who follow one particular boxer are always the worst. Wasn't it Rob McCracken v Steve the Viking Foster* that had Brum v Citeh fans kick off.

And that ain't the only time.

p.s. Just had a look at that bill. Decent card.

Fosters fans are red

50-50 & I f*ck it up

Salford is 99.9% Red

[Taansend]

Fosters fans are red

50-50 & I f*ck it up

Salford is 99.9% Red

I thought Salford was in Birmingham

[Deserter]

Probably, there was some 'heavy' guys there. And I was with some 'heavy' guys!

Micky, purely out of curiousity, but if you know, what is the score with that Salford 'scene'? Obviously saw all the reports in the aftermath of Paul Massey's killing and there are clearly as you say some 'heavy' guys involved, but is there also an element of media hype?

Bernard o'mahoney is bringing a book out on it soon. Yes, I know he's a dick, but I know his son, who's a bit of a dick as well. Serious players The Salford Team. No jokers or hype at all.

Thanks fella. Do you think there will ever be a conviction over the Massey killing?

[mickey1975]

I knew nothing. I was supporting Henry. Denzil Browne sat with us for the undercard and said "you don't realise how bad this could get"! I didn't. The Salford buses were all full time criminals. All drunk and whatever else. Denzil knew a few and said they 'walked heavy'! Oh, they all had a go, like. Think it was lead story on the news!

[mickey1975]

Micky, purely out of curiousity, but if you know, what is the score with that Salford 'scene'? Obviously saw all the reports in the aftermath of Paul Massey's killing and there are clearly as you say some 'heavy' guys involved, but is there also an element of media hype?

Bernard o'mahoney is bringing a book out on it soon. Yes, I know he's a dick, but I know his son, who's a bit of a dick as well. Serious players The Salford Team. No jokers or hype at all.

Thanks fella. Do you think there will ever be a conviction over the Massey killing?

No. Everyone knows who did it, nobody speaks over there. Look at The Brass Handles murders or Lee Erdman, it's insane. Even West Yorkshire guys go there for gear because nobody will grass.

[Nightmare Roy]

50-50 & I f*ck it up

Salford is 99.9% Red

I thought Salford was in Birmingham

Wash you're mouth out!

[Dirk Kelly]

Nah Skelton v Krence was Khans debut. I was at that show. Krence was a late replacement, I can’t remember who was supposed to box Skelton.
There was crowd trouble between Asian Amir Khan fans and white morons.

Yip Mickey was referring to the Khan card with Foster and Jennings on it and I think that was the Skelton vs. Krence card. Only went as my mate was offered the Skelton fight and I got a ticket on the off chance he'd take it but he didn't!

Been to lots of Khan fights and find his supporters are the main instigators of lots of the trouble.

Non boxing fans who follow one particular boxer are always the worst. Wasn't it Rob McCracken v Steve the Viking Foster* that had Brum v Citeh fans kick off.

And that ain't the only time.

p.s. Just had a look at that bill. Decent card.

If you watch the Benn fight you can see chairs flying around and what not as you're watching the action with the PA system appealing for calm.

[Taansend]

Yip Mickey was referring to the Khan card with Foster and Jennings on it and I think that was the Skelton vs. Krence card. Only went as my mate was offered the Skelton fight and I got a ticket on the off chance he'd take it but he didn't!

Been to lots of Khan fights and find his supporters are the main instigators of lots of the trouble.

Non boxing fans who follow one particular boxer are always the worst. Wasn't it Rob McCracken v Steve the Viking Foster* that had Brum v Citeh fans kick off.

And that ain't the only time.

p.s. Just had a look at that bill. Decent card.

If you watch the Benn fight you can see chairs flying around and what not as you're watching the action with the PA system appealing for calm.

I remember it well (except getting the Manchester clubs mixed up)

[Southy1922]

Probably, there was some 'heavy' guys there. And I was with some 'heavy' guys!

Micky, purely out of curiousity, but if you know, what is the score with that Salford 'scene'? Obviously saw all the reports in the aftermath of Paul Massey's killing and there are clearly as you say some 'heavy' guys involved, but is there also an element of media hype?

Being from Salford and being friendly with a few of the "lads" ; its an element of both. Those responsible for pm's death arent on these shores and the clock is ticking. The media hype lingers from the old "gunchester" days more than the current scene.

[Nightmare Roy]

Probably, there was some 'heavy' guys there. And I was with some 'heavy' guys!

Micky, purely out of curiousity, but if you know, what is the score with that Salford 'scene'? Obviously saw all the reports in the aftermath of Paul Massey's killing and there are clearly as you say some 'heavy' guys involved, but is there also an element of media hype?

Being from Salford and being friendly with a few of the "lads" ; its an element of both. Those responsible for pm's death arent on these shores and the clock is ticking. The media hype lingers from the old "gunchester" days more than the current scene.

Shootings have definitely gone up in Salford though, I know it's just two small groups mainly but it was pretty rare for firearms to be discharged 10/20 years ago, that all went on south of the river. Anyway it seems to have calmed down a bit now which is good.

[Jackson328]

I remember watching Clinton defend the IBF title v Glenn Johnson at Bolton Arena a few years ago, I was sat by a group of lads from Sheffield and they irked some of the locals who where there supporting Amir Khan as they got off at the end of the Woods/Johnson bout. The Woods fans were peeved that Khan was topping the bill in a routine bout despite the Woods/Johnson fight being for a world title. I think Ricky Hatton was in the Woods corner too for some reason but he was so fat that lots of people didn't recognise him!

Did Khan top the bill? I thought he was way down it and his fans were causing trouble afterwards for the rest of the night? Remember a few people getting carted off in ambulances.

Great night with comical moments - M'baye winning the WBA title but they only had a WBC belt so they stuck a posit note saying WBA over the WBC logo. Genius. Always thought Woods lost that fight but everyone who watched on telly said he did just enough.

Khan topped. Can't remember which Khan night at that venue when Foster Jr. was on, but Khan fans didn't get away with anything that night. Full Salford team out. I was worried drinking with them! Jennings had a lot there as well.

Yep, pretty sure Jennings' lot were there that night, very noisy in the beer tent! I was on my own and just happened to be sat amongst some Sheffield lads, Joe Calzaghe was sat just a couple of rows in front of us. After the Woods result was announced the Sheffield lads were getting off and some heavy set Asian bloke was stood in the aisle shouting at them for not staying to support Khan, he got some abuse for his trouble too. was thinking of getting off myself as it was getting late but I stayed and Khan ended it pretty quickly as I recall. Driving home I could only feel a bit sorry for Soulemayne M'Baye who lifted the WBA 140 title in a half empty arena.