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pimp wrote: ↑23 Feb 2018, 11:51 John could of done a lot better, his lifestyle out the ring defiantly cut it short and underachieved, joe Murray was at his best with joe g without doubt

pimp wrote: ↑23 Feb 2018, 11:51 John could of done a lot better, his lifestyle out the ring defiantly cut it short and underachieved

Counter-puncher wrote: ↑23 Feb 2018, 14:43

pimp wrote: ↑23 Feb 2018, 11:51 John could of done a lot better, his lifestyle out the ring defiantly cut it short and underachieved

Really? I thought the Rios fight showed his limitations at world level. Same type of fighter as Murray, just better at it. I don't know if any amount of clean living and good preparation could overcome the talent deficit that meant John had slow feet, slow hands, and didn't hit all that hard at world level. Some movement from the waist here and there may have helped too. But I really didn't see Murray getting beaten pillar to post by Rios and think 'wow here's a guy who belongs at world level if he fulfils his potential'. He got smashed by a bloke who is way below elite at world level himself.

Stuarty wrote: ↑23 Feb 2018, 14:50

Counter-puncher wrote: ↑23 Feb 2018, 14:43

pimp wrote: ↑23 Feb 2018, 11:51 John could of done a lot better, his lifestyle out the ring defiantly cut it short and underachieved

Really? I thought the Rios fight showed his limitations at world level. Same type of fighter as Murray, just better at it. I don't know if any amount of clean living and good preparation could overcome the talent deficit that meant John had slow feet, slow hands, and didn't hit all that hard at world level. Some movement from the waist here and there may have helped too. But I really didn't see Murray getting beaten pillar to post by Rios and think 'wow here's a guy who belongs at world level if he fulfils his potential'. He got smashed by a bloke who is way below elite at world level himself.

I thought he done alright against Rios up until the later rounds. He was a bit of a mess at the end though wasn't he?

Stuarty wrote: ↑23 Feb 2018, 14:50

Counter-puncher wrote: ↑23 Feb 2018, 14:43

pimp wrote: ↑23 Feb 2018, 11:51 John could of done a lot better, his lifestyle out the ring defiantly cut it short and underachieved

Really? I thought the Rios fight showed his limitations at world level. Same type of fighter as Murray, just better at it. I don't know if any amount of clean living and good preparation could overcome the talent deficit that meant John had slow feet, slow hands, and didn't hit all that hard at world level. Some movement from the waist here and there may have helped too. But I really didn't see Murray getting beaten pillar to post by Rios and think 'wow here's a guy who belongs at world level if he fulfils his potential'. He got smashed by a bloke who is way below elite at world level himself.

I thought he done alright against Rios up until the later rounds. He was a bit of a mess at the end though wasn't he?

bripez wrote: ↑31 Jan 2018, 08:06

jamamb wrote: ↑30 Jan 2018, 19:42 i watched murray vs matty fagan and couldnt believe he was an olympian.

At the time of turning over Joe was really being hyped for big things beyond his brother John who was doing very well at the time.

wesshaw1985 wrote: ↑25 Feb 2018, 15:50

bripez wrote: ↑25 Feb 2018, 16:1329 years old, 6 years a pro and 19-1 boxes a lad 4-3-1 what’s the point?

It must be a really good mate to buy a ticket for that.

Elpidiphor wrote: ↑25 Feb 2018, 16:29 What result of Hosea Burton fight?

Elpidiphor wrote: ↑25 Feb 2018, 16:35 Thank you, mate, for good news! Bet on this for 5,0 odd

bripez wrote: ↑25 Feb 2018, 16:13

wesshaw1985 wrote: ↑25 Feb 2018, 15:50

29 years old, 6 years a pro and 19-1 boxes a lad 4-3-1 what’s the point?

It must be a really good mate to buy a ticket for that.