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Posted: **02 Feb 2018, 08:53**

tiny_acres wrote: ↑31 Jan 2018, 16:18
marvelous marv wrote: ↑31 Jan 2018, 14:36 When PEDvetkin fails a drug test pre fight somehow al haymon will be blamed.
And don't forget to blame Wilder and vada

Posted: **02 Feb 2018, 12:04**

Showcase fight. Nothing more. This is no different from when Hearn threw Dave Allen in with Ortiz.

That's about Price's level these days. Povetkin can choose to put on a show, or do what Ortiz did and play about with his prey for a few rounds first.

The former gets him a Joshua fight, the latter gets him a ton of criticism. Either way, he'll never get out of 2nd gear, and won't ever be in danger of even losing a round.

Posted: **02 Feb 2018, 13:09**

Posted: **03 Feb 2018, 03:41**

Badhusker wrote: ↑02 Feb 2018, 08:53
tiny_acres wrote: ↑31 Jan 2018, 16:18
marvelous marv wrote: ↑31 Jan 2018, 14:36 When PEDvetkin fails a drug test pre fight somehow al haymon will be blamed.
And don't forget to blame Wilder and vada

Oh ffs how many more times am I going to see the almost exact same post by the same guys while the other two back-slap him for his spontaneous wit and originality ... yet again ?

I notice the WBC don't appear on your roster of falsely maligned innocents. It strikes me there was obviously corruption and collusion between Sulaiman and King over the blind-eye turned with regard to Stiverne's failed drug test and long time occupancy of the mandatory slot, so why anyone would deny the possibility this runs deeper, I don't know. Anyway let's not re-hash that again.

One thing I will say though is Deontay Wilder had no need to give Ortiz a second chance and the fact that he is doing so earns him a lot of credit in my view. Fair play to him. Hopefully his boldness doesn't come back and bite him on the arse, boxing needs Wilder v Joshua while they are both undefeated.

Posted: **03 Feb 2018, 04:02**

Latest booky odds are 14-1 in favor of Vityaz man Povetkin.

Posted: **03 Feb 2018, 04:13**

Tell me x2x. What exactly is a "Vityaz" as the term appilies to Sasha? Is he regarded as having the bearing or qualities of an olden day 'knight' or he is a former Spetsnaz, or it something else entirely ?

Posted: **03 Feb 2018, 04:28**

candyslim wrote: ↑03 Feb 2018, 04:13 Tell me x2x. What exactly is a "Vityaz" as the term appilies to Sasha? Is he regarded as having the bearing or qualities of an olden day 'knight' or he is a former Spetsnaz, or it something else entirely ?

Yes, he is a former Vityaz which was the internal security branch of the Russian Spetznaz special forces. He wears the name on his boxing trunks.

Posted: **03 Feb 2018, 04:34**

Thanks for that x2x. I wouldn't want to pick a fight with him even before you told me that

Posted: **03 Feb 2018, 05:52**

...I believe that deep inside Povetkin and his team realise that fighting a no-hoper is a waste of precious time for someone who's already WBA contender for Joshua and is 38 years OLD..

Posted: **03 Feb 2018, 08:17**

greg wrote: ↑03 Feb 2018, 05:52 ...I believe that deep inside Povetkin and his team realise that fighting a no-hoper is a waste of precious time for someone who's already WBA contender for Joshua and is 38 years OLD..

I agree..............

Posted: **03 Feb 2018, 16:21**

Wow, Povetkin really testing himself here.

Posted: **03 Feb 2018, 16:23**

Badhusker wrote: ↑03 Feb 2018, 16:21 Wow, Povetkin really testing himself here.

This is a matchup meant to market Povetkin to a U.K. audience. That's the idea behind it, and if Pricey pulls off some amazing upset that works too. It's a win/win for the Brit promoters. Unless Povetkin wins and looks like sh*t doing it.

Posted: **03 Feb 2018, 16:25**

candyslim wrote: ↑03 Feb 2018, 04:13 Tell me x2x. What exactly is a "Vityaz" as the term appilies to Sasha? Is he regarded as having the bearing or qualities of an olden day 'knight' or he is a former Spetsnaz, or it something else entirely ?

also interesting thing about Povetkin is that he is a Rodnover - a follower of native Slavic pre-Christian belief

his fight vs Price is a 1 round KO win for Russkij Vityaz, i consider to bet some money on this outcome

Posted: **03 Feb 2018, 17:53**

Very interesting to be sure. Are there many people that follow this ancient religion?

I agree that Povetkin's people probably regard the Price fight as a waste of time on one level but they are smart enough to appreciate that this will raise Sasha's profile in the UK (Price is one of the better known British heavyweights) and that getting known by Joshua's casual fans as that Russian guy who recently demolished Price, won't do any harm at all to the UK pay per view numbers, and should enhance the challenger's bargaining power.

Posted: **04 Feb 2018, 08:25**

gilgamesh wrote: ↑03 Feb 2018, 16:23
Badhusker wrote: ↑03 Feb 2018, 16:21 Wow, Povetkin really testing himself here.
This is a matchup meant to market Povetkin to a U.K. audience. That's the idea behind it, and if Pricey pulls off some amazing upset that works too. It's a win/win for the Brit promoters. Unless Povetkin wins and looks like sh*t doing it.

Exactly this, I wished Wilder dared to fight someone like Dillian Whyte, so more people knew about him, but sadly and expectedly, he didn't, not even for 5 mil, despite Whyte isn't even that good.

Posted: **04 Feb 2018, 09:32**

asdfjkl wrote: ↑04 Feb 2018, 08:25
gilgamesh wrote: ↑03 Feb 2018, 16:23
Badhusker wrote: ↑03 Feb 2018, 16:21 Wow, Povetkin really testing himself here.
This is a matchup meant to market Povetkin to a U.K. audience. That's the idea behind it, and if Pricey pulls off some amazing upset that works too. It's a win/win for the Brit promoters. Unless Povetkin wins and looks like sh*t doing it.
Exactly this, I wished Wilder dared to fight someone like Dillian Whyte, so more people knew about him, but sadly and expectedly, he didn't, not even for 5 mil, despite Whyte isn't even that good.

Wilder is fighting someone much better than Whyte, and is a real test and real risk. I don't think anyone is disappointed he isn't fighting Whyte. Whyte was being used only to get Wilder off of Joshua's trail anyway. Hearn promised to make the fight next.
Why didn't they line up Whyte vs Povetkin if they want to market him in the UK? Better than the glass jawed Price.

Posted: **04 Feb 2018, 10:34**

asdfjkl wrote: ↑04 Feb 2018, 08:25
gilgamesh wrote: ↑03 Feb 2018, 16:23
Badhusker wrote: ↑03 Feb 2018, 16:21 Wow, Povetkin really testing himself here.
This is a matchup meant to market Povetkin to a U.K. audience. That's the idea behind it, and if Pricey pulls off some amazing upset that works too. It's a win/win for the Brit promoters. Unless Povetkin wins and looks like sh*t doing it.
Exactly this, I wished Wilder dared to fight someone like Dillian Whyte, so more people knew about him, but sadly and expectedly, he didn't, not even for 5 mil, despite Whyte isn't even that good.

You'd rather Wilder fight Whyte than Luis Ortiz?

Posted: **04 Feb 2018, 10:37**

This fight is the worst matchup, it’s killing boxing.

Posted: **04 Feb 2018, 10:48**

candyslim wrote: ↑03 Feb 2018, 17:53 Very interesting to be sure. Are there many people that follow this ancient religion?

I agree that Povetkin's people probably regard the Price fight as a waste of time on one level but they are smart enough to appreciate that this will raise Sasha's profile in the UK (Price is one of the better known British heavyweights) and that getting known by Joshua's casual fans as that Russian guy who recently demolished Price, won't do any harm at all to the UK pay per view numbers, and should enhance the challenger's bargaining power.

I would think that the average British boxing buff wouldn't be overly impressed if Povetkin does the expected and demolishes Price in short order.

Correct me if I'm wrong, my British amigos, but didn't you pretty much give up on Price several years back when it became evident that his chin couldn't withstand the rigors of world class competition?

Don't most (all?) of you assume that Povetkin will put the damaged Price out of his misery quickly and that it will do little to elevate the Russian's status?

I can't imagine Britain clamoring for a Joshua-Povetkin showdown simply because the latter was able to dismiss Price in a breeze.

A lot of heavyweights, some not all that talented, could do the same.

By the way, Povetkin has opened as a not so surprisingly heavy 20-1 favorite.

In perspective, Eubank is a little better than a 2-1 choice over Groves in a few weeks, and Khan is also a 20-1 pick over lightly regarded Phil Lo Greco.

Posted: **04 Feb 2018, 12:34**

SenorPipino wrote: ↑04 Feb 2018, 10:48
candyslim wrote: ↑03 Feb 2018, 17:53 Very interesting to be sure. Are there many people that follow this ancient religion?

I agree that Povetkin's people probably regard the Price fight as a waste of time on one level but they are smart enough to appreciate that this will raise Sasha's profile in the UK (Price is one of the better known British heavyweights) and that getting known by Joshua's casual fans as that Russian guy who recently demolished Price, won't do any harm at all to the UK pay per view numbers, and should enhance the challenger's bargaining power.
I would think that the average British boxing buff wouldn't be overly impressed if Povetkin does the expected and demolishes Price in short order.

Correct me if I'm wrong, my British amigos, but didn't you pretty much give up on Price several years back when it became evident that his chin couldn't withstand the rigors of world class competition?

Don't most (all?) of you assume that Povetkin will put the damaged Price out of his misery quickly and that it will do little to elevate the Russian's status?

I can't imagine Britain clamoring for a Joshua-Povetkin showdown simply because the latter was able to dismiss Price in a breeze.

A lot of heavyweights, some not all that talented, could do the same.

By the way, Povetkin has opened as a not so surprisingly heavy 20-1 favorite.

In perspective, Eubank is a little better than a 2-1 choice over Groves in a few weeks, and Khan is also a 20-1 pick over lightly regarded Phil Lo Greco.

Most Brits don't give price much of a chance here, he's a nice fella so I hope he wins but can't see it going past the 3rd

Posted: **04 Feb 2018, 13:09**

Badhusker wrote: ↑04 Feb 2018, 09:32
asdfjkl wrote: ↑04 Feb 2018, 08:25
gilgamesh wrote: ↑03 Feb 2018, 16:23

This is a matchup meant to market Povetkin to a U.K. audience. That's the idea behind it, and if Pricey pulls off some amazing upset that works too. It's a win/win for the Brit promoters. Unless Povetkin wins and looks like sh*t doing it.
Exactly this, I wished Wilder dared to fight someone like Dillian Whyte, so more people knew about him, but sadly and expectedly, he didn't, not even for 5 mil, despite Whyte isn't even that good.
Wilder is fighting someone much better than Whyte, and is a real test and real risk. I don't think anyone is disappointed he isn't fighting Whyte. Whyte was being used only to get Wilder off of Joshua's trail anyway. Hearn promised to make the fight next.
Why didn't they line up Whyte vs Povetkin if they want to market him in the UK? Better than the glass jawed Price.

Because Povetkin is much better and harder, Whyte probably didn't dare that, Wilder probably knows something again to avoid Ortiz, just like last time, when I also predicted that correct, sadly, Wilder is very predictable. I wonder what's his excuse this time.

Posted: **04 Feb 2018, 13:19**

Can't help but feel for Price. Nothing seemed to go his way - one confidence sapping fiasco after the last. I wish he'd pushed harder for the Fury fight. Fury wisely avoided him like the plague previously.

If he's in the mood David Price can beat anyone, and sometimes knowing you've nothing to left to lose can dispel all fear.

Still, Alexander 'hard man' Povetkin is far from the ideal opponent right now. This could end very quickly for David. I hope he's memorised every second of the Klitschko - Povetkin fight.

Any defeat outside the first 6/7 rounds is a sort if a win for Price. He should train for 20 rounds, cut the bullshit bravado, learn take a knee, hold, clinch and hang on for the bell when needed. Strategically Price has the option of planning for a points win, but can also end matters quickly if Povetkin screws up.

Posted: **04 Feb 2018, 13:27**

If Price got a points loss his stock would go up massively.

In hindsight, if that fight happened, there's no doubt in my mind, Fury would have won.

Posted: **04 Feb 2018, 15:02**

asdfjkl wrote: ↑04 Feb 2018, 13:09
Badhusker wrote: ↑04 Feb 2018, 09:32
asdfjkl wrote: ↑04 Feb 2018, 08:25
Exactly this, I wished Wilder dared to fight someone like Dillian Whyte, so more people knew about him, but sadly and expectedly, he didn't, not even for 5 mil, despite Whyte isn't even that good.
Wilder is fighting someone much better than Whyte, and is a real test and real risk. I don't think anyone is disappointed he isn't fighting Whyte. Whyte was being used only to get Wilder off of Joshua's trail anyway. Hearn promised to make the fight next.
Why didn't they line up Whyte vs Povetkin if they want to market him in the UK? Better than the glass jawed Price.
Because Povetkin is much better and harder, Whyte probably didn't dare that, Wilder probably knows something again to avoid Ortiz, just like last time, when I also predicted that correct, sadly, Wilder is very predictable. I wonder what's his excuse this time.

Oh yeah, you're the guy who's clairvoyant. You know exactly what fights will be canceled and when.

Maybe you've already answered this question. If so, I apologize to you profusely.

But why is Wilder---according to you Karnak---avoiding Ortiz? Cuz didn't he sign to fight him in just a month?

And what do you mean about Wilder having an excuse? I thought it was Ortiz who flubbed his drug test and was suspended. Wasn't it the big Cuban who needed an excuse?

BTW, since you see all and know all, exactly what round will Wilder KO Ortiz if somehow the fight transpires March 3?

I want to put big bucks on it, and with your incredible Nostradamus like powers, you're the only one here I can trust.

Posted: **04 Feb 2018, 16:32**

Badhusker wrote: ↑03 Feb 2018, 16:21 Wow, Povetkin really testing himself here.

It's so he can focus his attention on not failing a drug test.

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