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slappy wrote: ↑17 Feb 2018, 14:44 Not top level.

But JCC Jr over Vera was the worst recent one I can remember.

Chavez barely tried to do anything but complain to ref.

I think I had that one 97-93 Vera. He definitely deserved the win in the 1st fight.

siablo14 wrote: ↑17 Feb 2018, 14:38 Pac-Bradley. I scored the first nine rounds for Pac and stopped scoring.
I was happy when Bradley won because I am not a fan of Pacquiao but Pac was seriously robbed that night.

Funny but I actually didn t think Pac-Horn was that bad. I am definitely in the minority but Horn started and ended most of the exchanges even if he whiffed on a lot of shots.

I remember being surprised by the punch stats because I thought Horn was more effective than the numbers showed.

slappy wrote: ↑17 Feb 2018, 14:47

siablo14 wrote: ↑17 Feb 2018, 14:38 Pac-Bradley. I scored the first nine rounds for Pac and stopped scoring.
I was happy when Bradley won because I am not a fan of Pacquiao but Pac was seriously robbed that night.

Funny but I actually didn t think Pac-Horn was that bad. I am definitely in the minority but Horn started and ended most of the exchanges even if he whiffed on a lot of shots.

I remember being surprised by the punch stats because I thought Horn was more effective than the numbers showed.

For the Horn fight I had Pacquiao winning by 2 rounds, so yes that's another controversial fight for me.

gilgamesh wrote: ↑17 Feb 2018, 14:46

slappy wrote: ↑17 Feb 2018, 14:44 Not top level.

But JCC Jr over Vera was the worst recent one I can remember.

Chavez barely tried to do anything but complain to ref.

I think I had that one 97-93 Vera. He definitely deserved the win in the 1st fight.

I also think it stings more when they job a journeyman. Vera deserved to retire with that W on his resume.

siablo14 wrote: ↑17 Feb 2018, 14:40

ValMar wrote: ↑17 Feb 2018, 14:29 I have to mention some very close fights, don't considering them roberies, simply they were extremely difficult to score/judge :
-Chisora vs. Helenius
-Chisora vs. Whyte
- Golovkin vs. Jacobs
-Golovkin vs. Alvarez
-Brook vs. Porter
-Ward vs. Kovalev 1
-Parker vs. Ruiz
-De Gale vs. Jack

I have never watched Alvarez-Lara completely, and I am not sure when Valuev-Holyfield had happened..........Gassiev-Lebedev was close, too..............

bold - take that one out of it.

It was close, if I would enforced to judge it would be 114-113 Golovkin....Tommorrow, I might think differently.............

ValMar wrote: ↑17 Feb 2018, 15:00

siablo14 wrote: ↑17 Feb 2018, 14:40

ValMar wrote: ↑17 Feb 2018, 14:29 I have to mention some very close fights, don't considering them roberies, simply they were extremely difficult to score/judge :
-Chisora vs. Helenius
-Chisora vs. Whyte
- Golovkin vs. Jacobs
-Golovkin vs. Alvarez
-Brook vs. Porter
-Ward vs. Kovalev 1
-Parker vs. Ruiz
-De Gale vs. Jack

I have never watched Alvarez-Lara completely, and I am not sure when Valuev-Holyfield had happened..........Gassiev-Lebedev was close, too..............

bold - take that one out of it.

It was close, if I would enforced to judge it would be 114-113 Golovkin....Tommorrow, I might think differently.............

8-4 GGG, man.

ValMar wrote: ↑17 Feb 2018, 15:00

siablo14 wrote: ↑17 Feb 2018, 14:40

ValMar wrote: ↑17 Feb 2018, 14:29 I have to mention some very close fights, don't considering them roberies, simply they were extremely difficult to score/judge :
-Chisora vs. Helenius
-Chisora vs. Whyte
- Golovkin vs. Jacobs
-Golovkin vs. Alvarez
-Brook vs. Porter
-Ward vs. Kovalev 1
-Parker vs. Ruiz
-De Gale vs. Jack

I have never watched Alvarez-Lara completely, and I am not sure when Valuev-Holyfield had happened..........Gassiev-Lebedev was close, too..............

bold - take that one out of it.

It was close, if I would enforced to judge it would be 114-113 Golovkin....Tommorrow, I might think differently.............

A close fight is not a robbery. Even if you think it should've went the other way. If it was close enough to have reasonably gone either way then it's not a robbery.

gilgamesh wrote: ↑17 Feb 2018, 15:05

ValMar wrote: ↑17 Feb 2018, 15:00

siablo14 wrote: ↑17 Feb 2018, 14:40
bold - take that one out of it.

It was close, if I would enforced to judge it would be 114-113 Golovkin....Tommorrow, I might think differently.............

A close fight is not a robbery. Even if you think it should've went the other way. If it was close enough to have reasonably gone either way then it's not a robbery.

I said/wrote the same thing.

ValMar wrote: ↑17 Feb 2018, 15:09

gilgamesh wrote: ↑17 Feb 2018, 15:05

ValMar wrote: ↑17 Feb 2018, 15:00

It was close, if I would enforced to judge it would be 114-113 Golovkin....Tommorrow, I might think differently.............

A close fight is not a robbery. Even if you think it should've went the other way. If it was close enough to have reasonably gone either way then it's not a robbery.

I said/wrote the same thing.

I missed your top comment. Just seems odd to have included them at all in this thread when the first word is "Worst", but yeah my bad. We're on the same page on this pretty much then it would seem, and I think I had the same score as you in the GGG vs Jacobs fight.

gilgamesh wrote: ↑17 Feb 2018, 15:14

ValMar wrote: ↑17 Feb 2018, 15:09

gilgamesh wrote: ↑17 Feb 2018, 15:05

A close fight is not a robbery. Even if you think it should've went the other way. If it was close enough to have reasonably gone either way then it's not a robbery.

I said/wrote the same thing.

I missed your top comment. Just seems odd to have included them at all in this thread when the first word is "Worst", but yeah my bad. We're on the same page on this pretty much then it would seem, and I think I had the same score as you in the GGG vs Jacobs fight.

Nice ! You are younger, and your English is better, but we agree.....
My advantage : I can remember Ali vs. Frazier/Foreman/Norton.........

ValMar wrote: ↑17 Feb 2018, 15:19

gilgamesh wrote: ↑17 Feb 2018, 15:14

ValMar wrote: ↑17 Feb 2018, 15:09

I said/wrote the same thing.

I missed your top comment. Just seems odd to have included them at all in this thread when the first word is "Worst", but yeah my bad. We're on the same page on this pretty much then it would seem, and I think I had the same score as you in the GGG vs Jacobs fight.

Nice ! You are younger, and your English is better, but we agree.....
My advantage : I can remember Ali vs. Frazier/Foreman/Norton.........

I've seen those fights, but I didn't get to see them Live as they happened. I'm sure that was awesome, and a hell of a time to be a Boxing fan.

gilgamesh wrote: ↑17 Feb 2018, 15:23

ValMar wrote: ↑17 Feb 2018, 15:19

gilgamesh wrote: ↑17 Feb 2018, 15:14

I missed your top comment. Just seems odd to have included them at all in this thread when the first word is "Worst", but yeah my bad. We're on the same page on this pretty much then it would seem, and I think I had the same score as you in the GGG vs Jacobs fight.

Nice ! You are younger, and your English is better, but we agree.....
My advantage : I can remember Ali vs. Frazier/Foreman/Norton.........

I've seen those fights, but I didn't get to see them Live as they happened. I'm sure that was awesome, and a hell of a time to be a Boxing fan.

I was a little child (born 1965) but I can remember. Interesting, we had only 2 tv channels, but it was free, absolutely free, and 90 % persons had been watching these fights, believe it or not............Recently, perhaps 20 % watching (mainly HW fights) and it is free (or extremely cheap) again......

ValMar wrote: ↑17 Feb 2018, 14:29 I have to mention some very close fights, don't considering them roberies, simply they were extremely difficult to score/judge :
-Chisora vs. Helenius
-Chisora vs. Whyte
- Golovkin vs. Jacobs
-Golovkin vs. Alvarez
-Brook vs. Porter
-Ward vs. Kovalev 1
-Parker vs. Ruiz
-De Gale vs. Jack

I have never watched Alvarez-Lara completely, and I am not sure when Valuev-Holyfield had happened..........Gassiev-Lebedev was close, too..............

chisora vs helenius was an awful robbery. you have to be an awful judge to think helenius did anything to come close to deserving the win. big rob was useless

jamamb wrote: ↑17 Feb 2018, 16:48

ValMar wrote: ↑17 Feb 2018, 14:29 I have to mention some very close fights, don't considering them roberies, simply they were extremely difficult to score/judge :
-Chisora vs. Helenius
-Chisora vs. Whyte
- Golovkin vs. Jacobs
-Golovkin vs. Alvarez
-Brook vs. Porter
-Ward vs. Kovalev 1
-Parker vs. Ruiz
-De Gale vs. Jack

I have never watched Alvarez-Lara completely, and I am not sure when Valuev-Holyfield had happened..........Gassiev-Lebedev was close, too..............

chisora vs helenius was an awful robbery. you have to be an awful judge to think helenius did anything to come close to deserving the win. big rob was useless

As I can remember, almost all rounds were very close....

they werent at all, helenius was useless

jamamb wrote: ↑17 Feb 2018, 17:00 they werent at all, helenius was useless

I will have to rewatch this match again.

Trying to rank the robberies from bad to worse is bit like trying to rank turds by how bad they smell

Some of the biggest ones recently...

GGG - Canelo
Ward - Kovalev... Both of them
Pac - Bradley

Lesser ones...

Chisora - Whyte
Parker - Ruiz

Both were close but clear and given to the "A side" even thou they really lost.

Heretic wrote: ↑18 Feb 2018, 07:02 Trying to rank the robberies from bad to worse is bit like trying to rank turds by how bad they smell

Some of the biggest ones recently...

GGG - Canelo
Ward - Kovalev... Both of them
Pac - Bradley

Lesser ones...

Chisora - Whyte
Parker - Ruiz

Both were close but clear and given to the "A side" even thou they really lost.

Ward-Kovalev 2 has been the different case. There were low blows, but ref might deducted the point from Ward, give Kovalev time to recover and continue the fight. Ward would have won, anyway, Kovalev has been finished (it is my personal opinion, right or wrong)....................

That cross eyed kid Tevin recently got really screwed against some oriental fighter.
Worst recent dec I seen. Also GGG got screwed bad against Canelo

Not top level but Renald Garrido vs Fatih Keles (twice) were fairly dodgy decisions.

gilgamesh wrote: ↑17 Feb 2018, 14:40 I'm actually never happy to see a robbery. Even if I hate the guy that got robbed. I'd rather see the sport maintain it's integrity and do things right than see somebody I don't like lose in a bullsh*t manner.

Agree 100%. Maybe not the worst but very bad and fresh in the mind, I'd cast my vote for Golovkin v Alvarez.

Santa Cruz - Casamayor.
I think I gave Santa Cruz 11 rounds, plus a knockdown.

I remember, on here, that people were live betting on the fight. Apparently, they’d cocked up the odds and had it about evens going into the last round.
Some poster was whacking great sums of money on it. It made for horrendous reading when the decision was read out.

ValMar wrote: ↑18 Feb 2018, 09:21

Heretic wrote: ↑18 Feb 2018, 07:02 Trying to rank the robberies from bad to worse is bit like trying to rank turds by how bad they smell

Some of the biggest ones recently...

GGG - Canelo
Ward - Kovalev... Both of them
Pac - Bradley

Lesser ones...

Chisora - Whyte
Parker - Ruiz

Both were close but clear and given to the "A side" even thou they really lost.

Ward-Kovalev 2 has been the different case. There were low blows, but ref might deducted the point from Ward, give Kovalev time to recover and continue the fight. Ward would have won, anyway, Kovalev has been finished (it is my personal opinion, right or wrong)....................

Well no we will never know.

Only thing we have is the stoppage on low blows. Clearly shown in slow motion. The fact that the decision was not changed after the fight just goes to show how crooked this game really is

There's the few on the list that were inevitable where people still find it difficult to let go. Ggg v Canelo for instance. regardless whether you scored Ggg up 3 to 4 rounds makes no differeronce each round was difficult to score for either.. It was a close fight no injustice only the 118 110 card. The OP has asked for robbery fights like Bradley v pac or betran v burns not close fights like the above and fights like brooks v porter...

Exoddus wrote: ↑17 Feb 2018, 10:03 GGG vs Canelo. I think I had it 8-4 to GGG.

You must not watch many fights... That wasn't even a bad decision. It was a close fight.. and the wrong guy didn't win.. it was a draw.

Ward-Kovalev was FAR worse. As was Bradley-Pacquiao. As were many others.

Christ, how about Santa Cruz-Casamayor?