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Best Coast wrote: ↑17 Feb 2018, 18:17

ValMar wrote: ↑17 Feb 2018, 15:55

gilgamesh wrote: ↑17 Feb 2018, 15:41

Because he's better than him

...........Postol is much, much bigger than his compatriot Loma, too

Agreed. I have this "Ukrainian grudge match" a 50-50 fight due to Postol's size advantage. Even if Loma beat him he would never dominate Postol like Crawford did.

Postol > Loma @ 4" height advantage + 8" reach advantage

Lomachenko beat better, longer dudes in the amateurs. He beat gigantic Jose Ramirez as an amateur who now is an enormous 140 lber. He'll beat Postol, easy.

I think Crawford would get KO'd by Charlo. Ultimately, Lomachenko is a p4p better fighter.

Best Coast wrote: ↑17 Feb 2018, 18:17

ValMar wrote: ↑17 Feb 2018, 15:55

gilgamesh wrote: ↑17 Feb 2018, 15:41

Because he's better than him

...........Postol is much, much bigger than his compatriot Loma, too

Agreed. I have this "Ukrainian grudge match" a 50-50 fight due to Postol's size advantage. Even if Loma beat him he would never dominate Postol like Crawford did.

Postol > Loma @ 4" height advantage + 8" reach advantage

I didn't say he'd dominate him. I just think he'd beat him, but then again I thought Eubank was gonna beat Groves today so what do I know.

gilgamesh wrote: ↑17 Feb 2018, 19:46

Best Coast wrote: ↑17 Feb 2018, 18:17

ValMar wrote: ↑17 Feb 2018, 15:55
...........Postol is much, much bigger than his compatriot Loma, too

Agreed. I have this "Ukrainian grudge match" a 50-50 fight due to Postol's size advantage. Even if Loma beat him he would never dominate Postol like Crawford did.

Postol > Loma @ 4" height advantage + 8" reach advantage

I didn't say he'd dominate him. I just think he'd beat him, but then again I thought Eubank was gonna beat Groves today so what do I know.

I think Lomo is the best I may have ever seen,but this Crawford is amazing......and much taller. I think that I’d pick Crawford due to the size

jewboypgh wrote: ↑18 Feb 2018, 09:47 I think Lomo is the best I may have ever seen,but this Crawford is amazing......and much taller. I think that I’d pick Crawford due to the size

I hate to break it to you, but Crawford is only one inch taller. He has about 4-5 inches of reach on Loma. If Loma comes up to 140 or 147 we can find out. It is not inconceivable, since guys like Floyd and Manny eventually went up that far, and farther, while starting at similar weights.

..I was listening to Loma's recent interview where he was insisting that 130 being HIS weight where he feels very comfortable, he doesn't exclude going up provided there's a challenge though...don't think he should necessarily follow the examples of Floyd and Co. to be recognised as (one of) the best worldwide..

greg wrote: ↑18 Feb 2018, 10:20 ..I was listening to Loma's recent interview where he was insisting that 130 being HIS weight where he feels very comfortable, he doesn't exclude going up provided there's a challenge though...don't think he should necessarily follow the examples of Floyd and Co. to be recognised as (one of) the best worldwide..

Fair enough. If we won't follow the examples of guys that dared to be great by moving up, lets tone down the rhetoric on how great Loma is, and quit saying he is an all time great already with only 10-12 fights at the pros.

Badhusker wrote: ↑18 Feb 2018, 10:33

greg wrote: ↑18 Feb 2018, 10:20 ..I was listening to Loma's recent interview where he was insisting that 130 being HIS weight where he feels very comfortable, he doesn't exclude going up provided there's a challenge though...don't think he should necessarily follow the examples of Floyd and Co. to be recognised as (one of) the best worldwide..

Fair enough. If we won't follow the examples of guys that dared to be great by moving up, lets tone down the rhetoric on how great Loma is, and quit saying he is an all time great already with only 10-12 fights at the pros.

While I'm not on the Lomachenko bandwagon (having a handful of pro fights, including one defeat, should never qualify anyone as an ATG) I will say that I never hear anyone question the ATG credentials of 160 pounders Monzon and Hagler even though they spent their entire careers at middle and never moved up in weight.

SenorPipino wrote: ↑18 Feb 2018, 11:06

Badhusker wrote: ↑18 Feb 2018, 10:33

greg wrote: ↑18 Feb 2018, 10:20 ..I was listening to Loma's recent interview where he was insisting that 130 being HIS weight where he feels very comfortable, he doesn't exclude going up provided there's a challenge though...don't think he should necessarily follow the examples of Floyd and Co. to be recognised as (one of) the best worldwide..

Fair enough. If we won't follow the examples of guys that dared to be great by moving up, lets tone down the rhetoric on how great Loma is, and quit saying he is an all time great already with only 10-12 fights at the pros.

While I'm not on the Lomachenko bandwagon (having a handful of pro fights, including one defeat, should never qualify anyone as an ATG) I will say that I never hear anyone question the ATG credentials of 160 pounders Monzon and Hagler even though they spent their entire careers at middle and never moved up in weight.

There are a lot of variables regarding former champs, and why they stayed at weights or moved up. Part of it is competition at their weight, and if none, they move up to find challenges. Another factor is their size. Hagler was not big at all for a middleweight. Another factor is bigger money fights at a higher weight. Another is the challenge.
Loma's decision to move up in weight will be his. If he has no competition at his current weight, hopefully he will move up. Mikey Garcia already said he would fight him at 135. Why not if that is the weight he is going to fight at? If he fights Pacquiao at 140, why not fight M Garcia there?

I feel, there is the gap between HW and all other divisions. HW champion is the absolute champion in the same time.
Where is the difference between SFW and LW champions? I can not realise, really. There is only one exception - CW champion moving up at HW, this could be very interesting................
Again, this is only my personal opinion, and I don't expect anybody agree with me, but nobody can convince me the opposite.