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black panther wrote: ↑23 Feb 2018, 07:42 Thanks for all who voted. I can sleep easy knowing the whole world hasn't gone mad and at least 85% of boxrec are sane

I suppose when it comes to boxing writers ini major newspapers, they have an agenda to con the public essentially. "Look at this it's a good fight!" "Look at this it's a close fight!" You get told these things enough you will believe it - especially if you are Joe Public who only watches boxing on occassion.

i think a lot of this actually happens before the fight as much as from what anyone says about the scoring afterwards- people like Bunce talking up the fight as an epic match and going to huge lengths to try to make it seem something other than a mismatch, so yeah, Bunce picked Eubank to win, other people like Bunce also do it and it creates a stupid 'buzz' before the fight where the expectation is that its a real close one not a mismatch, and people's eyes start seeing what they are told to expect not what is actually in front of them. by the way W/R/T Bunce's predictions, i no longer think he believes all of them, at all. I assume he strategically boosts the supposed chances of certauin fighters in certain fights so as not to demean the overal 'franchise' (sic) of British boxing. the irony is he does this whilst using the phrase 'lets get it right, here' about every other sentence.

they did the same before Haye-Bellew except much worse, IMO.

Counter-puncher wrote: ↑23 Feb 2018, 08:30 [quote="black panther" post_id=4863269 time=<a href="tel:1519386130">1519386130</a> user_id=2509]
Thanks for all who voted. I can sleep easy knowing the whole world hasn't gone mad and at least 85% of boxrec are sane

I suppose when it comes to boxing writers ini major newspapers, they have an agenda to con the public essentially. "Look at this it's a good fight!" "Look at this it's a close fight!" You get told these things enough you will believe it - especially if you are Joe Public who only watches boxing on occassion.

i think a lot of this actually happens before the fight as much as from what anyone says about the scoring afterwards- people like Bunce talking up the fight as an epic match and going to huge lengths to try to make it seem something other than a mismatch, so yeah, Bunce picked Eubank to win, other people like Bunce also do it and it creates a stupid 'buzz' before the fight where the expectation is that its a real close one not a mismatch, and people's eyes start seeing what they are told to expect not what is actually in front of them. by the way W/R/T Bunce's predictions, i no longer think he believes all of them, at all. I assume he strategically boosts the supposed chances of certauin fighters in certain fights so as not to demean the overal 'franchise' (sic) of British boxing. the irony is he does this whilst using the phrase 'lets get it right, here' about every other sentence.

they did the same before Haye-Bellew except much worse, IMO.
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Yeah good point CP. They’re just doing their job to be fair. They were so good at it, they even made me question myself for picking Groves.

i thought it was telling that all of the arguments advanced on behalf of Eubank were based on intangibles, you know, all that bullsh1t about hunger and desire and heart ("passion's over-rated, mate", George Gregan circa 2002), I heard a really good Groves interview on the radio where he quite concisely laid out all of the hyperbole surrounding Eubank ('he's suddenly a monster puncher, got his dad's chin) and debunked it all. and Bunce allowed what a great interview it was and he couldn't disagree with a word... but he still thought Eubank would be 'just too young (28 ) too fresh, too hungry', literally not a single tangible reason he would win just this Sky-TV era 'who wants it more, heart passion, playing for the badge, its more than a fight its for LEGACY' fluff and bollocks.

i personally think Bunce knows full well he was shilling the fight in selling that view

ya i actually saw a lot of 'eubanks youth' when hes 28 and george 29

although groves more miles tbf

jamamb wrote: ↑24 Feb 2018, 06:37 ya i actually saw a lot of 'eubanks youth' when hes 28 and george 29

yeah, but George doesn't call himself #nextgen

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