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Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑10 Mar 2018, 08:43 I think the 3rd fight is underrated.. All 3 were good..

Kalan wrote: ↑12 Mar 2018, 21:21 Anybody with any boxing knowledge knew these were 2 faded fighters... Both thick around the waist.. Both way overweight.. Both leaning all over each other the whole night with Ali grabbing Frazier around the head all night.

Only in the 1st couple rounds was Ali warned to stop holding... After that Padilla gave up and pulled Ali hands from Frazier's head and neck more than 100 times... Generally if a referee warns a fighter for fouling about 20 times they start taking points... But this is Ali and he's special... He'll never stop holding because he knows no points will ever be taken... Padilla's solution was pulling Ali's hands off Frazier's head again and again and again and again, all night long -- while saying "Stop holding, stop holding, stop holding, stop holding, stop holding."

Frazier was physically ill... Anybody who read the papers would know he was suffering from hypertension, high blood pressure, an enlarged heart and numerous health problems.. His vision was also terrible and he was said to be almost blind in one eye.. He was so exhausted in the 14th he couldn't throw with any strength at all..

Frazier threw flat, flaccid listless, lifeless dead, limp swings in the 14th... That’s why Ali tore into him.. If Ali could punch at all he would have eradicated Joe right there. Frazier barely made it to his corner at the bell he was so used up. They were forced to call it. The fight went longer than Ali-Holmes with the same senseless damage inflicted.. Physically damaged athletes shouldn’t retain licenses to box.. The only explanation for these fights is greed.. The love of money.

BroughtonRulesRefuge wrote: ↑13 Mar 2018, 12:21 [Ali was] utterly clowned by Bugs

Kalan wrote: ↑15 Mar 2018, 15:43

BroughtonRulesRefuge wrote: ↑13 Mar 2018, 12:21 [Ali was] utterly clowned by Bugs

First time I've ever heard that Bugner clowned Ali... Ali was an easy winner at 34... "Bugs" lost unanimously to Marvis Frazier (9-0) at 33 and his fight with a washed up Joe Frazier at 23 was another loss where he hit the canvas.

Famed LA Times sportswriter Jim Murray said Bugner fought Ali "like he was trying to hide under a bed." .... Bugner threw so few punches Murray wrote "I don't know why Bugner wore gloves. I guess his hands were cold." Bugner was one of the suckiest fighters I've ever seen... His only attribute was a very thick skull that allowed him to absorb a pounding.

handsofstone wrote: ↑15 Mar 2018, 16:54 The 3rd fight is the best IMO, both guys were past their primes but it made for a more entertaining fight, ive never really cared for the 1st fight too much, it was a massive occasion and it was a great fight but I thought Frazier won it comfortably, I'm not a fan of watching post exile Ali, he spoils too much, ties up, lays on the ropes and constantly smothers, the jabs and the lightening combinations are just cameos, ive seen pretty much all of his fights and even the 15 rounders he wins easily can be boring

I actually thought the 2nd fight was decent but I can probably name 10 trilogies I prefer more than Ali/Frazier

golden oldie wrote: ↑15 Mar 2018, 20:45

BroughtonRulesRefuge wrote: ↑13 Mar 2018, 12:21

- The best of the series will always be a personal choice, however in classic truly great fights I prefer mutual prime or near prime timelines and no doubt the first fight fit that criteria.

I have to hand it to you. I honestly believed the genuine Walter Mitty on this board was KOLON, but you knock him totally into a cocked hat. You could even give that other idiot Stephen King a run for his money. Let us get this clear. You are claiming a guy who has a 3 year 7 month enforced lay off, then 2 fights, and a mere 5 months later is either in, or close to his prime.

As to the Manilla, most knew both had seen better days, but Joe made Ali quit by demanding to have his gloves cut off by Angelo. Joe is up bouncing like the energizer bunny in his corner when the ref stops the fight because the Frazier monitor of Ali's corner couldn't make his way through the crowds to inform Futch who pulled the plug prematurely by Joe's way of thinking. I have no doubt Ali was ready for a REAL KO loss, and he did collapse after Futch pulled the plug much like he did in the Foreman fight.

I humbly apologise for mentioning the insignificant nonentity Stephen King in the same breath as someone with your imagination. You could without doubt put both Enid Blyton, and Lewis Carroll to shame.

The rest of your nonsense simply isn't worthy of response.

On a serious note, my advice to you would be to copy and paste some of the most fantasmagorical bullcrap you have written on here, and send it to EVERY publishing house in Murica. The law of averages states one of them will be stupid enough to sign you up, for the novelty value, if nothing else.

No one would believe it...

golden oldie wrote: ↑15 Mar 2018, 20:45

BroughtonRulesRefuge wrote: ↑13 Mar 2018, 12:21

- The best of the series will always be a personal choice, however in classic truly great fights I prefer mutual prime or near prime timelines and no doubt the first fight fit that criteria.

I have to hand it to you. I honestly believed the genuine Walter Mitty on this board was KOLON, but you knock him totally into a cocked hat. You could even give that other idiot Stephen King a run for his money. Let us get this clear. You are claiming a guy who has a 3 year 7 month enforced lay off, then 2 fights, and a mere 5 months later is either in, or close to his prime.

As to the Manilla, most knew both had seen better days, but Joe made Ali quit by demanding to have his gloves cut off by Angelo. Joe is up bouncing like the energizer bunny in his corner when the ref stops the fight because the Frazier monitor of Ali's corner couldn't make his way through the crowds to inform Futch who pulled the plug prematurely by Joe's way of thinking. I have no doubt Ali was ready for a REAL KO loss, and he did collapse after Futch pulled the plug much like he did in the Foreman fight.

I humbly apologise for mentioning the insignificant nonentity Stephen King in the same breath as someone with your imagination. You could without doubt put both Enid Blyton, and Lewis Carroll to shame.

The rest of your nonsense simply isn't worthy of response.

On a serious note, my advice to you would be to copy and paste some of the most fantasmagorical bullcrap you have written on here, and send it to EVERY publishing house in Murica. The law of averages states one of them will be stupid enough to sign you up, for the novelty value, if nothing else.

- Get yer ol' gran to change yer bib and diapers.

No one should have to smell yer pitiable personal defilement.

golden oldie wrote: ↑16 Mar 2018, 21:30 Considering both YOU and the cretinous Broughton Swing Rules are Murican, and therefore by extension verminous scum, I will obviously treat your reposts with the contempt they deserve.

Make no mistake, given the choice in a football match between a Taliban 11, and the fukking subhuman U.S.A. I would be cheering for a 6 - 0 win for the Taliban.

You are the SOLE reason human beings in the rest of the Western world are being murdered whilst going about their business, by lunatic Islamists.

If you would just fukk off back to your sh,it tip country, and keep your retarded noses out of the worlds affairs, earth would be a much safer place.

P.S. But don't forget to keep selling guns to half witted kids so you can hopefully kill enough of each other, that the rest of the planet can live a happier way of life.

P.P.S.

Follow the filthy RIGHT WING party line, and blame ALL the gun crime in Murica on the black folks aged 24 - 35.

golden oldie wrote: ↑16 Mar 2018, 22:16 Seriously.

The best thing America can do, is to accept different factions of Islam have ALWAYS hated each other, and ALWAYS will. So let them get on with it, and F O. home.

BroughtonRulesRefuge wrote: ↑17 Mar 2018, 06:15 - Kalan, nukes ain't impact bombs, so your sub scenario ain't happening.

The most likely accident is someone releasing a missle or constructing something like a suitcase bomb strategically timed.

And HG Wells proposed your economy/war boom and bust cycle at the start of the 1930s in The Shape of Things to come, and boom and bust rules the west enhanced by war.

As to Ali starting his comeback at age 28 and no longer prime, let's look further. I remember very well being 28 at the height of my powers and hormones, so that claim would seem to be for couch potatoes who never had a prime.

I didn't care for runners and entered a 10 K on a dare. Never ran more than a mile slowly as punishment by gym coaches. Start at the back of 3500 runners and was soon passing up the world record holder@100M who had oodles miles in training. I was literally running cross country hurdles at time to pass up the grazing herd. Then we hit a killer grade, but then the sweeping downhill where I had passed up all but the 200 serious runners. Hit the wall at 8 K and had to walk as some including my buddy who was a steady 2 miles a day runner about the same age passed me, where I ran to a 47 min finish.

I was a stud who coul do stuff like that because I was very physically active. Anyone who thinks the undefeated super stud wasn't prime at 28-29 with two previous fights to put him in active fight shape is seriously stupid, but all our thousands of years of wars have killed off our best and brightest leaving us ruled cowardly stupes.

BroughtonRulesRefuge wrote: ↑17 Mar 2018, 06:15 - Kalan, nukes ain't impact bombs, so your sub scenario ain't happening.

The most likely accident is someone releasing a missle or constructing something like a suitcase bomb strategically timed.

And HG Wells proposed your economy/war boom and bust cycle at the start of the 1930s in The Shape of Things to come, and boom and bust rules the west enhanced by war.

As to Ali starting his comeback at age 28 and no longer prime, let's look further. I remember very well being 28 at the height of my powers and hormones, so that claim would seem to be for couch potatoes who never had a prime.

I didn't care for runners and entered a 10 K on a dare. Never ran more than a mile slowly as punishment by gym coaches. Start at the back of 3500 runners and was soon passing up the world record holder@100M who had oodles miles in training. I was literally running cross country hurdles at time to pass up the grazing herd. Then we hit a killer grade, but then the sweeping downhill where I had passed up all but the 200 serious runners. Hit the wall at 8 K and had to walk as some including my buddy who was a steady 2 miles a day runner about the same age passed me, where I ran to a 47 min finish.

I was a stud who coul do stuff like that because I was very physically active. Anyone who thinks the undefeated super stud wasn't prime at 28-29 with two previous fights to put him in active fight shape is seriously stupid, but all our thousands of years of wars have killed off our best and brightest leaving us ruled cowardly stupes.

golden oldie wrote: ↑17 Mar 2018, 21:32

Cojimar 1946 wrote: ↑17 Mar 2018, 19:35 What does the USA have to do with Islamist attacks in France and Britain? Why are the Islamists going after non-American countries in their issue is with America? Plenty of Islamists were angered at depictions of the prophet Muhammad as well as western support for the Israelis which would still be issues even if America withdrew into isolationism.

It is quite simple.

The Islamists consider ANY nation they consider to be " allies " of what they call " The Great Satan " ( Murica ) as fair game. What most Muricans are too stoopid to understand is whilst your government is chest thumping about your Middle East trade deals ( the sale of weapons ) the big potato ( Saudi Arabia ) is paying you with the right hand, and sponsoring the very people who blew your WTC to bits with their left hand.

Again the reason is simple. They vehemently resent what they call INFIDELS aggressively occupying their sacred ( Mecca ) land.

So F.O. home, and force the oil companies to accept there are alternative forms of energy, and therefore they can shove their billion dollar bribes up their sh'it boxes.

golden oldie wrote: ↑17 Mar 2018, 21:46

oogiebe wrote: ↑17 Mar 2018, 21:34

golden oldie wrote: ↑17 Mar 2018, 21:32

It is quite simple.

The Islamists consider ANY nation they consider to be " allies " of what they call " The Great Satan " ( Murica ) as fair game. What most Muricans are too stoopid to understand is whilst your government is chest thumping about your Middle East trade deals ( the sale of weapons ) the big potato ( Saudi Arabia ) is paying you with the right hand, and sponsoring the very people who blew your WTC to bits with their left hand.

Again the reason is simple. They vehemently resent what they call INFIDELS aggressively occupying their sacred ( Mecca ) land.

So F.O. home, and force the oil companies to accept there are alternative forms of energy, and therefore they can shove their billion dollar bribes up their sh'it boxes.

Try not to hold back...

I won't, don't worry. Please don't take it personally, because you are far from the only country run by halwits. The moronic British prime minister is now trying to puff her saggy chest out at Vladimir Putin. Is she having a fukking laugh? Anyone can tell simply by looking at him, he is a mass murderer with a lemonade top. He is a Genghis Khan, but in the 21st century. No hiding in bunkers below the White House, Kremlin, Westminster, Tiannamen Square (or wherever ) shouting orders for him. If they ever kick off, he would lead from the front.