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Re: Who would you like to see Wilder fighting next if the Joshua fight doesn't get made ?

Posted: 10 Mar 2018, 21:45
by Ilya Muromets
actjac wrote: 10 Mar 2018, 21:17 Zhang Zhilei of China. .southpaw. . . 6'-6" and 250 lbs. . . . two time Olympian and Silver Medalist, . . undefeated pro and ranked #7 by WBO.

It's hard to find recent videos of him and he hasn't fought a top guy yet, but it would be great for boxing if China could have a boxing champion especially a heavy. It could make boxing very popular in that massive and incredibly dynamic country.

Re: Who would you like to see Wilder fighting next if the Joshua fight doesn't get made ?

Posted: 10 Mar 2018, 21:46
by oogiebe
x2x wrote: 10 Mar 2018, 21:45
actjac wrote: 10 Mar 2018, 21:17 Zhang Zhilei of China. .southpaw. . . 6'-6" and 250 lbs. . . . two time Olympian and Silver Medalist, . . undefeated pro and ranked #7 by WBO.

It's hard to find recent videos of him and he hasn't fought a top guy yet, but it would be great for boxing if China could have a boxing champion especially a heavy. It could make boxing very popular in that massive and incredibly dynamic country.
LOL! Imagine the PPV?????

Re: Who would you like to see Wilder fighting next if the Joshua fight doesn't get made ?

Posted: 10 Mar 2018, 21:48
by jamamb
zhangs about as good as junior fa

as someone posted already. anyone top 10 who deontay hasnt already fought would be great. breazele. whyte/browne. mller. pulev.

not charles martn plz

Re: Who would you like to see Wilder fighting next if the Joshua fight doesn't get made ?

Posted: 10 Mar 2018, 21:49
by oogiebe
jamamb wrote: 10 Mar 2018, 21:48 zhangs about as good as junior fa
I am literally laughing my ass off!!!!!!!

Re: Who would you like to see Wilder fighting next if the Joshua fight doesn't get made ?

Posted: 10 Mar 2018, 21:53
by Boxing Writer
x2x wrote: 10 Mar 2018, 21:45
actjac wrote: 10 Mar 2018, 21:17 Zhang Zhilei of China. .southpaw. . . 6'-6" and 250 lbs. . . . two time Olympian and Silver Medalist, . . undefeated pro and ranked #7 by WBO.

It's hard to find recent videos of him and he hasn't fought a top guy yet, but it would be great for boxing if China could have a boxing champion especially a heavy. It could make boxing very popular in that massive and incredibly dynamic country.
Zhang should fight Charr vs Oquendo winner and take that bogus WBA regular title. He is prety good, but I don't see him beating Wilder and Joshua.

Re: Who would you like to see Wilder fighting next if the Joshua fight doesn't get made ?

Posted: 10 Mar 2018, 21:54
by oogiebe
Boxing Writer wrote: 10 Mar 2018, 21:53
x2x wrote: 10 Mar 2018, 21:45
actjac wrote: 10 Mar 2018, 21:17 Zhang Zhilei of China. .southpaw. . . 6'-6" and 250 lbs. . . . two time Olympian and Silver Medalist, . . undefeated pro and ranked #7 by WBO.

It's hard to find recent videos of him and he hasn't fought a top guy yet, but it would be great for boxing if China could have a boxing champion especially a heavy. It could make boxing very popular in that massive and incredibly dynamic country.
Zhang should fight Charr vs Oquendo winner and take that bogus WBA regular title. He is prety good, but I don't see him beating Wilder and Joshua.
Hmmmm...I'll wait until he's on HBO or Showtime...

Re: Who would you like to see Wilder fighting next if the Joshua fight doesn't get made ?

Posted: 10 Mar 2018, 21:54
by jamamb
ya thats zhangs best route

he has a chance for that belt

chinese hw champ. omg! lol

Re: Who would you like to see Wilder fighting next if the Joshua fight doesn't get made ?

Posted: 10 Mar 2018, 21:55
by Ilya Muromets
Of course there is the name that must never even be mentioned - because they wouldn't want the big bad Russians spoiling their private party!

Re: Who would you like to see Wilder fighting next if the Joshua fight doesn't get made ?

Posted: 10 Mar 2018, 21:56
by oogiebe
x2x wrote: 10 Mar 2018, 21:55 Of course there is the name that must never even be mentioned - because they wouldn't want the big bad Russians spoiling their private party!
The "P" work?

Re: Who would you like to see Wilder fighting next if the Joshua fight doesn't get made ?

Posted: 10 Mar 2018, 21:58
by jamamb
imo no chance we see pov-wlder after all the fiasco and now legal stuff

Re: Who would you like to see Wilder fighting next if the Joshua fight doesn't get made ?

Posted: 10 Mar 2018, 22:03
by oogiebe
jamamb wrote: 10 Mar 2018, 21:58 imo no chance we see pov-wlder after all the fiasco and now legal stuff
No miss for me...

Re: Who would you like to see Wilder fighting next if the Joshua fight doesn't get made ?

Posted: 10 Mar 2018, 22:05
by jamamb
i was really excted for it in 2016 when pov was on the stuff and a beast. but now hed get easily destroyed. hes stlll good but not elite with aj and deontay.

Re: Who would you like to see Wilder fighting next if the Joshua fight doesn't get made ?

Posted: 10 Mar 2018, 22:06
by oogiebe
jamamb wrote: 10 Mar 2018, 22:05 i was really excted for it in 2016 when pov was on the stuff and a beast. but now hed get easly destroyed. hes stlll good but not elite with aj and deontay.
Agreed...I was excited for a good HW fight, but...nope.

Re: Who would you like to see Wilder fighting next if the Joshua fight doesn't get made ?

Posted: 12 Mar 2018, 04:35
by candyslim
At the time he was scheduled to fight Wilder it would have been a fantastic pick 'em fight. I don't see that Wilder has anything to fear from Povetkin now though, I'm sad to say. Not big enough, not young enough, not quick enough.

Re: Who would you like to see Wilder fighting next if the Joshua fight doesn't get made ?

Posted: 12 Mar 2018, 05:57
by apollo creed
candyslim wrote: 12 Mar 2018, 04:35 At the time he was scheduled to fight Wilder it would have been a fantastic pick 'em fight. I don't see that Wilder has anything to fear from Povetkin now though, I'm sad to say. Not big enough, not young enough, not quick enough.
Yeah at that time would've been a hell of boxing match. I was very eager to see it att.

Re: Who would you like to see Wilder fighting next if the Joshua fight doesn't get made ?

Posted: 12 Mar 2018, 07:13
by ProMayhem
Has to be the Whyte/Browne winner! Both hard hitting but can see wilder landing a right on them and getting the stoppage

Re: Who would you like to see Wilder fighting next if the Joshua fight doesn't get made ?

Posted: 12 Mar 2018, 08:12
by Enlightened-One
With Luis Ortiz being a fellow PBC stablemate, it’s not beyond the realms of possibility that the Cuban could be offered another crack at Wilder’s WBC world title.

For some strange reason, Deontay has priced himself out of a highly-lucrative match-up against Matchroom’s Dillian Whyte. He doesn’t appear to want that fight, as he demands more than three times the amount he received against Luis Ortiz in order to face the Brit. I’m not saying he’s ducking, but his payday expectations seem unreasonable to me.

The American could be tempted to face the winner of the Bellew-Haye rematch, though Wilder will probably expect Matchroom to propose an inordinately huge offer in order for him to accept that bout.

Dominic Breazeale is also one of Wilder’s PBC stablemates, as is Charles Martin and Adam Kownacki, with all three fighters being highly-rated by the WBC, as well as none of them having fights lined-up. So they’re likely to be considered also.

I expect Wilder to be given a relatively easy test in his next outing, because Deontay himself, Shelly Finkel, Showtime, Al Haymon et al won’t want to risk derailing a money-spinning title unification super-fight against Anthony Joshua, now that the American has finally validated his credentials against Ortiz.

Re: Who would you like to see Wilder fighting next if the Joshua fight doesn't get made ?

Posted: 12 Mar 2018, 08:36
by Deleted_Scenes
It might have to be the Whyte/Brown winner, if the WBC enforce it as mandatory.

The other option is Whyte/Browne gets told to fight Breazeale in a final eliminator, then Wilder fights one of the PBC heavyweights.

Joshua either takes care of Povetkin as a mandatory, or Miller in the US if that doesn't get enforced.

Re: Who would you like to see Wilder fighting next if the Joshua fight doesn't get made ?

Posted: 12 Mar 2018, 08:57
by apollo creed
Deleted_Scenes wrote: 12 Mar 2018, 08:36 It might have to be the Whyte/Brown winner, if the WBC enforce it as mandatory.

The other option is Whyte/Browne gets told to fight Breazeale in a final eliminator, then Wilder fights one of the PBC heavyweights.

Joshua either takes care of Povetkin as a mandatory, or Miller in the US if that doesn't get enforced.

Good options.

Re: Who would you like to see Wilder fighting next if the Joshua fight doesn't get made ?

Posted: 12 Mar 2018, 10:40
by oogiebe
Deleted_Scenes wrote: 12 Mar 2018, 08:36 It might have to be the Whyte/Brown winner, if the WBC enforce it as mandatory.

The other option is Whyte/Browne gets told to fight Breazeale in a final eliminator, then Wilder fights one of the PBC heavyweights.

Joshua either takes care of Povetkin as a mandatory, or Miller in the US if that doesn't get enforced.
Makes sense to me, but I'd really like someone to get Miller out of the way.

Re: Who would you like to see Wilder fighting next if the Joshua fight doesn't get made ?

Posted: 12 Mar 2018, 11:13
by Deleted_Scenes
oogiebe wrote: 12 Mar 2018, 10:40
Deleted_Scenes wrote: 12 Mar 2018, 08:36 It might have to be the Whyte/Brown winner, if the WBC enforce it as mandatory.

The other option is Whyte/Browne gets told to fight Breazeale in a final eliminator, then Wilder fights one of the PBC heavyweights.

Joshua either takes care of Povetkin as a mandatory, or Miller in the US if that doesn't get enforced.
Makes sense to me, but I'd really like someone to get Miller out of the way.
Is he in the way? I'd have him 9th at best, until he beats anyone worth caring about. He's loud, but I'm not sure he deserves to be ranked any higher than someone like Takam or Andy Ruiz based on anything he's done in the ring. Kownacki has a better win on his record, beating Szpilka.

Joshua might fight him, to raise his profile in the US, but I'd be massively disappointed if he did and I'd expect it to end fairly early.

Re: Who would you like to see Wilder fighting next if the Joshua fight doesn't get made ?

Posted: 12 Mar 2018, 11:47
by oogiebe
Deleted_Scenes wrote: 12 Mar 2018, 11:13
oogiebe wrote: 12 Mar 2018, 10:40
Deleted_Scenes wrote: 12 Mar 2018, 08:36 It might have to be the Whyte/Brown winner, if the WBC enforce it as mandatory.

The other option is Whyte/Browne gets told to fight Breazeale in a final eliminator, then Wilder fights one of the PBC heavyweights.

Joshua either takes care of Povetkin as a mandatory, or Miller in the US if that doesn't get enforced.
Makes sense to me, but I'd really like someone to get Miller out of the way.
Is he in the way? I'd have him 9th at best, until he beats anyone worth caring about. He's loud, but I'm not sure he deserves to be ranked any higher than someone like Takam or Andy Ruiz based on anything he's done in the ring. Kownacki has a better win on his record, beating Szpilka.

Joshua might fight him, to raise his profile in the US, but I'd be massively disappointed if he did and I'd expect it to end fairly early.
Get him out of the way so I don't have to see or hear him (Big Fatty) again. We'll know who's champ when that person "cleans out" the division.

Re: Who would you like to see Wilder fighting next if the Joshua fight doesn't get made ?

Posted: 12 Mar 2018, 14:32
by Luis Fernando12
Or he could perhaps fight Evgeny Romanov for trying to avenge his embarrassing, devastating and brutal knockout loss in spectacular fashion.

Re: Who would you like to see Wilder fighting next if the Joshua fight doesn't get made ?

Posted: 14 Mar 2018, 01:53
by EJA
Nobody

Re: Who would you like to see Wilder fighting next if the Joshua fight doesn't get made ?

Posted: 14 Mar 2018, 04:14
by Heretic
Deleted_Scenes wrote: 12 Mar 2018, 11:13
oogiebe wrote: 12 Mar 2018, 10:40
Deleted_Scenes wrote: 12 Mar 2018, 08:36 It might have to be the Whyte/Brown winner, if the WBC enforce it as mandatory.

The other option is Whyte/Browne gets told to fight Breazeale in a final eliminator, then Wilder fights one of the PBC heavyweights.

Joshua either takes care of Povetkin as a mandatory, or Miller in the US if that doesn't get enforced.
Makes sense to me, but I'd really like someone to get Miller out of the way.
Is he in the way? I'd have him 9th at best, until he beats anyone worth caring about. He's loud, but I'm not sure he deserves to be ranked any higher than someone like Takam or Andy Ruiz based on anything he's done in the ring. Kownacki has a better win on his record, beating Szpilka.

Joshua might fight him, to raise his profile in the US, but I'd be massively disappointed if he did and I'd expect it to end fairly early.
Wach and Washington are both better wins than Szpilka. Duhaupas will be too if Miller can beat him.

Szpilka has beaten no one of note. He got beaten and KOd easily by Jennings and even Mollo had him going life and death twice. I have no idea why people rate Szpilka.