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Re: Wilder says that Kownacki is considered as one of his next opponents
Posted: 30 Mar 2018, 16:19
by Mexi-Box
x2x wrote: ↑30 Mar 2018, 14:12
Mexi-Box wrote: ↑30 Mar 2018, 02:01
x2x wrote: ↑29 Mar 2018, 22:55
My man Pulev doesn't fight enough. It's almost a year since his last fight. Why?
I think Kownacki could pull a big upset! Compare the way he defeated Szpilka with Wilder. Szpilka was beating Wilder prior to the knockout; Kow demolished him, in the process setting the record for most punches landing in one round in a heavyweight fight!
Nah, Kownacki is made-to-order for Wilder. Kownacki will get the Duhaupus treatment because he does seem to be durable.
Pulev has been getting criminally underrated because he's not fighting.
Why hasn't Pulev been fighting more often? Soon it will be a year since his last fight. What if other sports teams and sportsmen only fought once a year?
The Yankees annual baseball game is coming up next month...
He's very talented, and I think he beats a lot of HW's in the top 10. He'd also give Wilder absolute hell.
Favor Pulev over Whyte, Kownacki, and Ortiz.
Re: Wilder says that Kownacki is considered as one of his next opponents
Posted: 30 Mar 2018, 18:14
by Lackeos
tiny_acres wrote: ↑30 Mar 2018, 09:06
Lackeos wrote: ↑30 Mar 2018, 07:37
I don't really think Kownacki is on the level of Whyte. A win over Szpilka and nothing more is not enough evidence for me. Kownacki is in the position to eventually be a good scalp if he beat someone like Breazeale, Martin, Hammer, Kabayel, Ruiz, or Hughie (but he might lose those fights).
Honestly who has Whyte beaten to make him this boogeyman everyone acts like he is?
A doughboy in Browne?
A very disputable win over Chisora?
Most boxing fans generally consider Chisora and Browne to be a clear 10-25 ranks above Szpilka. Not to mention that even Helenius is in quite a similar ballpark as Szpilka. Also, Whyte put up a pretty good fight against Joshua. Also, Whyte is starting to have a clearly better physique than Kownacki, he showed pretty great power against Browne, and truly boxed Browne's ears off. And I think there's almost universal consensus that Whyte should be higher ranked than Kownacki, so I don't know why you're disagreeing with me directly, when you should be taking-up your disagreement with the entire world.
ESPN
Dillian Whyte: 6
Adam Kownacki: not top 10
The Ring
Dillian Whyte: 7
Adam Kownacki: 10
Boxrec
Dillian Whyte: 6
Adam Kownacki: 10
IBO computerized rankings
Dillian Whyte: 7
Adam Kownacki: 8
Re: Wilder says that Kownacki is considered as one of his next opponents
Posted: 30 Mar 2018, 18:32
by jamamb
whyte aint no boogeyman but hes clearly better them kownacki
Re: Wilder says that Kownacki is considered as one of his next opponents
Posted: 30 Mar 2018, 18:37
by oogiebe
jamamb wrote: ↑30 Mar 2018, 18:32
whyte aint no boogeyman but hes clearly better them kownacki
...perfect...
Re: Wilder says that Kownacki is considered as one of his next opponents
Posted: 30 Mar 2018, 18:40
by jamamb
shows how thing hw is when just beating artur szpilka coming off a massive ktfo loss has you in b a bunch of top 10s. kownacki then looked like absolute sh!t in his next fight, vs a mediocre cruiser who been ktfo in 2 vs his only decent opponent. kownacki was busted and sent to the hospital
tbh, in reality i dont think he actually has top 10 ability at all even in this division, id expect many fighters now to ko szpilka, whosebrain was prob fried by the bronze bomber
Re: Wilder says that Kownacki is considered as one of his next opponents
Posted: 30 Mar 2018, 18:42
by oogiebe
jamamb wrote: ↑30 Mar 2018, 18:40
shows how thing hw is when just beating artur szpilka coming off a massive ktfo loss has you in b a bunch of top 10s. kownacki then looked like absolute sh!t in his next fight, vs a mediocre cruiser who been ktfo in 2 vs his only decent opponent. kownacki was busted and sent to the hospital
tbh, in reality i dont think he actually has top 10 ability even in this division
Certainly hasn't shown it. I'm tired of these soft looking thugs who get pushed through the ranks. I'd rather patiently await some good prospects to his the top 15-20 or higher in the next 6-12 months. All these 5-10's will be the next testing ground.
Tom Schwartz would kill him...even duBois at this point would give him a go.
Re: Wilder says that Kownacki is considered as one of his next opponents
Posted: 30 Mar 2018, 19:37
by actjac
A good pick for a show-case fight. . . . The Bronze Bomber needs to keep busy as he waits for the winner of Parker-Joshua winner to enter into negotiations for an early 2019 fight.
Re: Wilder says that Kownacki is considered as one of his next opponents
Posted: 30 Mar 2018, 22:02
by tiny_acres
actjac wrote: ↑30 Mar 2018, 19:37
A good pick for a show-case fight. . . . The Bronze Bomber needs to keep busy as he waits for the winner of Parker-Joshua winner to enter into negotiations for an early 2019 fight.
Wilder does need to stay very busy.
But Wilder vs Joshua won't be until late 2019 or early 2020. Hearn is in no hurry.
Re: Wilder says that Kownacki is considered as one of his next opponents
Posted: 30 Mar 2018, 23:06
by KiwiRider
So Wilder is looking to side step Whyte and a record payday to fight Adam K for his usual 1.2 in front of a few thousand faithful in Alabama?
Re: Wilder says that Kownacki is considered as one of his next opponents
Posted: 30 Mar 2018, 23:34
by actjac
KiwiRider wrote: ↑30 Mar 2018, 23:06
So Wilder is looking to side step Whyte and a record payday to fight Adam K for his usual 1.2 in front of a few thousand faithful in Alabama?
Why is Wilder obliged to BRITISH fans who want a fight with Whyte?
Re: Wilder says that Kownacki is considered as one of his next opponents
Posted: 30 Mar 2018, 23:43
by gilgamesh
actjac wrote: ↑30 Mar 2018, 23:34
KiwiRider wrote: ↑30 Mar 2018, 23:06
So Wilder is looking to side step Whyte and a record payday to fight Adam K for his usual 1.2 in front of a few thousand faithful in Alabama?
Why is Wilder obliged to BRITISH fans who want a fight with Whyte?
He's not, but you'd think he'd want more money.
Re: Wilder says that Kownacki is considered as one of his next opponents
Posted: 31 Mar 2018, 00:52
by n8digitalis
Easy work for Wilder sorry to say, hopefully he will take the winner of the Joshua/Parker fight but they both will probably take another fight or two. Got to hype it up a little.
Re: Wilder says that Kownacki is considered as one of his next opponents
Posted: 31 Mar 2018, 12:37
by oogiebe
gilgamesh wrote: ↑30 Mar 2018, 23:43
actjac wrote: ↑30 Mar 2018, 23:34
KiwiRider wrote: ↑30 Mar 2018, 23:06
So Wilder is looking to side step Whyte and a record payday to fight Adam K for his usual 1.2 in front of a few thousand faithful in Alabama?
Why is Wilder obliged to BRITISH fans who want a fight with Whyte?
He's not, but you'd think he'd want more money.
I guess business is a series of moves and one fight is merely a part of it. Wilder will fight only to stay on schedule with Joshua.
Re: Wilder says that Kownacki is considered as one of his next opponents
Posted: 31 Mar 2018, 14:14
by Bard of Boxrec
Does anyone know yet why Wilder has decided not to bother show up at the Joshua fight, or is it still a mystery?
Re: Wilder says that Kownacki is considered as one of his next opponents
Posted: 31 Mar 2018, 14:15
by world ranked
Riddick Blowe wrote: ↑31 Mar 2018, 14:14
Does anyone know yet why Wilder has decided not to bother show up at the Joshua fight, or is it still a mystery?
Maybe because he knows Joshua's not next so whats the point.
Re: Wilder says that Kownacki is considered as one of his next opponents
Posted: 31 Mar 2018, 14:24
by Ilya Muromets
Mexi-Box wrote: ↑30 Mar 2018, 16:19
x2x wrote: ↑30 Mar 2018, 14:12
Mexi-Box wrote: ↑30 Mar 2018, 02:01
Nah, Kownacki is made-to-order for Wilder. Kownacki will get the Duhaupus treatment because he does seem to be durable.
Pulev has been getting criminally underrated because he's not fighting.
Why hasn't Pulev been fighting more often? Soon it will be a year since his last fight. What if other sports teams and sportsmen only fought once a year?
The Yankees annual baseball game is coming up next month...
He's very talented, and I think he beats a lot of HW's in the top 10. He'd also give Wilder absolute hell.
Favor Pulev over Whyte, Kownacki, and Ortiz.
I agree...but why? Why does he - and so many other boxers nowadays - fight so infrequently? What does he do all year if he only works once a year? (Sounds like a good job actually) In boxing terms he's no spring chicken anymore. He's almost 37. Boxers age at about the same rate as dogs. One dog/boxer year = 7 human years.
Re: Wilder says that Kownacki is considered as one of his next opponents
Posted: 31 Mar 2018, 14:32
by Ilya Muromets
candyslim wrote: ↑30 Mar 2018, 15:41
I don't much rate Kownacki. He looks soft and flabby and his only got one decent win which was over Szpilka who didn't look the same fighter after being annihilated by Wilder. Miller is a tougher test and so are Dom Breazeale or Dillian Whyte.
Why he isn't interested in fighting Whyte in London for massive exposure, twice his career second best payday, and a comfortable win that would have UK fans clamouring for a Wilder v Joshua fight, I cannot imagine, I can't believe he's worried about facing Dillian. If anyone is thinking of replying that Hearn was trying to muscle-in on Wilder and get a piece of him either back it up or don't bother. If that were true Wilder and his people would be hollering about it ever since.
I don't begrudge Wilder an easy one after seeing off a genuine contender in Ortiz though.
One thing I will say for Kownacki is he will come to fight. I don't think he is likely to pose too many questions to Deontay but I'll watch it.
Looks can be deceiving. Boxing is not bodybuilding. Kow impressed me in the Szpilka fight. He set the all time record for punches landed in a single heavyweight round. He throws punches non stop from all directions.
"Why he isn't interested in fighting Whyte in London for massive exposure"
Was he offered that fight? It sounds like a good one. BUT if he's actually already been offered a big money fight against Wilder than of course he wouldn't accept it, tho I think he should fight more contenders before he gets a crack at one of the champs...but that's how the boxing "sports entertainment" show biz racket goes these days.
Re: Wilder says that Kownacki is considered as one of his next opponents
Posted: 31 Mar 2018, 19:57
by MackVelli
Why is no one talking of the 38 year old Povetkin as a challenge? Wilder? Josua? A.P. is deserving & may beat either one
Re: Wilder says that Kownacki is considered as one of his next opponents
Posted: 31 Mar 2018, 20:05
by Mexi-Box
MackVelli wrote: ↑31 Mar 2018, 19:57
Why is no one talking of the 38 year old Povetkin as a challenge? Wilder? Josua? A.P. is deserving & may beat either one
For sure. Too bad he's getting old because the one that fought Charr and went on that impressive KO streak cleans out the division currently. I still think this version is 50-50 with Joshua. He's 60-40 with Wilder, though. Wilder only has a puncher's chance, but Povetkin can also get him out of there at any time.
Re: Wilder says that Kownacki is considered as one of his next opponents
Posted: 31 Mar 2018, 21:09
by jamamb
povetkin did not look good at all vs david price, got rocked hard and was looking gassed just a few rounds in
hes almost 40 and is not nearly as good as he used to be, he was once a beast and an elite hw but now im not sure if he even beats dill whyte, wilder and aj beat him no doubt
Re: Wilder says that Kownacki is considered as one of his next opponents
Posted: 31 Mar 2018, 21:12
by oogiebe
jamamb wrote: ↑31 Mar 2018, 21:09
povetkin did not look good at all vs david price, got rocked hard and was looking gassed just a few rounds in
hes almost 40 and is not nearly as good as he used to be, he was once a beast and an elite hw but now im not sure if he even beats dill whyte, wilder and aj beat him no doubt
I can't believe I missed that fight. Heard it had its moments. What did you think of Povetkin moving forward? Aside from the generalities you posted above.
Re: Wilder says that Kownacki is considered as one of his next opponents
Posted: 31 Mar 2018, 22:41
by MrGuy
actjac wrote: ↑30 Mar 2018, 23:34
KiwiRider wrote: ↑30 Mar 2018, 23:06
So Wilder is looking to side step Whyte and a record payday to fight Adam K for his usual 1.2 in front of a few thousand faithful in Alabama?
Why is Wilder obliged to BRITISH fans who want a fight with Whyte?
Because Hern wants an upset so Bosnia doesn't have to fight him.
Re: Wilder says that Kownacki is considered as one of his next opponents
Posted: 01 Apr 2018, 18:06
by Heretic
Every time when someone undeserving ends up in top 10 rankings in HW Wilder jumps in. Hes like fricking shark. Smell blood all the way up to the top.
Stiverne, Scott, Duhapas and now Kownacki. All mediocre boxers who end up with bit too good ranking. And Boom the Bums squad arrives
Re: Wilder says that Kownacki is considered as one of his next opponents
Posted: 01 Apr 2018, 18:10
by Luis Fernando12
Mexi-Box wrote: ↑31 Mar 2018, 20:05
MackVelli wrote: ↑31 Mar 2018, 19:57
Why is no one talking of the 38 year old Povetkin as a challenge? Wilder? Josua? A.P. is deserving & may beat either one
For sure. Too bad he's getting old because the one that fought Charr and went on that impressive KO streak cleans out the division currently. I still think this version is 50-50 with Joshua. He's 60-40 with Wilder, though. Wilder only has a puncher's chance, but Povetkin can also get him out of there at any time.
You clearly seem to enjoy and condone mismatches, don't ya?
Re: Wilder says that Kownacki is considered as one of his next opponents
Posted: 01 Apr 2018, 20:00
by Mexi-Box
Luis Fernando12 wrote: ↑01 Apr 2018, 18:10
Mexi-Box wrote: ↑31 Mar 2018, 20:05
MackVelli wrote: ↑31 Mar 2018, 19:57
Why is no one talking of the 38 year old Povetkin as a challenge? Wilder? Josua? A.P. is deserving & may beat either one
For sure. Too bad he's getting old because the one that fought Charr and went on that impressive KO streak cleans out the division currently. I still think this version is 50-50 with Joshua. He's 60-40 with Wilder, though. Wilder only has a puncher's chance, but Povetkin can also get him out of there at any time.
You clearly seem to enjoy and condone mismatches, don't ya?
You clearly don't understand what that word means, don't ya.