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Re: Typical Knobhead "who are you"response to the folk doing the haka at the weigh inn

Posted: 31 Mar 2018, 04:28
by lillywhite14
banjo wrote: 31 Mar 2018, 04:25
rd350lc wrote: 31 Mar 2018, 04:17
jamamb wrote: 31 Mar 2018, 04:09 who has the worst knobs?
We do , by a million miles .

Don't seem to know the meaning of respect .

Wait till this football tournament in the summer , I'm sure the hooligan element will see us right .
We're amateurs when it comes to hooliganism, Italy, Russia, Turkey, Greece, Netherlands and Poland are all streets ahead of us, Italian hooligans are absolutely mental and that's not just in football either. Our lot just sing songs and throw a few bottles and mean stares while doing that arms out "fuckin' come on then" stance, Italians throw motorcycles off the higher tiers and murder policemen.
:TU:

The serious stuff died off years ago over here

Re: Typical Knobhead "who are you"response to the folk doing the haka at the weigh inn

Posted: 31 Mar 2018, 04:31
by jamesmcdonnell
lillywhite14 wrote: 31 Mar 2018, 04:27 I’ve been pissed on by Germans at a game in Berlin.
What about the Russians at the last Euro’s in France? Poles were just as bad too.
Difference is, if it’s against the English, somehow it’s seen as deserved.

Every nation has its fair share of divs.
The Haka is a load of tosh, but it can be entertaining. It’s been “disrespected” for years, by the Irish National side, apparently by Brian O’Driscoll, the Italians simply ignored it and trotted off to throw a ball about down the other end of the pitch. These and many other instances are widely available to view on YouTube. I’d say the Haka is probably more respected at Twickenham than anyone else too.
Does not sit with the ‘English are the biggest divs’ bollocks though I guess.

Why is it revered so much? Check out what it looked like 30 years ago. Was something like a Morris dance until the all blacks and Adidas decided they wanted to change it and use it as a product.
I agree. My point is people act like the haka is sacred. Why anybody needs to take notice of a bunch of people doing a silly dance is beyond me.

Re: Typical Knobhead "who are you"response to the folk doing the haka at the weigh inn

Posted: 31 Mar 2018, 04:50
by dalcumly
In the 1960's, if Henry Cooper had fought a New Zealander and someone had performed the haka, everyone would have watched and clapped when it was finished. If anyone had attempted to 'boo' it, they'd have got a hard slap across the back of the head.
Does that mean people of that generation were soft, or something. I don't think so. We simply had more respect for others and knew how to behave. We learned that from our parents.
I don't want to get into a political debate but when most men in the country worked in hard physical industries like the pits and steelworks etc they learned a code of behaviour from the older men and after hard work they didn't want to through their money into too much drink, drugs and gambling. Only a personal opinion.

Re: Typical Knobhead "who are you"response to the folk doing the haka at the weigh inn

Posted: 31 Mar 2018, 04:52
by dirk2686
rd350lc wrote: 31 Mar 2018, 04:17
jamamb wrote: 31 Mar 2018, 04:09 who has the worst knobs?
We do , by a million miles .

Don't seem to know the meaning of respect .

Wait till this football tournament in the summer , I'm sure the hooligan element will see us right .
At the Euro's in 2016 you had Russian hooligans with Go-Pro cameras, MMA gloves and gumshields. Genuinely crazy levels of premeditated aggro. Throw in the massive amounts of open racism and a bunch of pissed lads singing 'who are you' at a haka looks like a children's party.

Re: Typical Knobhead "who are you"response to the folk doing the haka at the weigh inn

Posted: 31 Mar 2018, 05:05
by lillywhite14
dalcumly wrote: 31 Mar 2018, 04:50 In the 1960's, if Henry Cooper had fought a New Zealander and someone had performed the haka, everyone would have watched and clapped when it was finished. If anyone had attempted to 'boo' it, they'd have got a hard slap across the back of the head.
Does that mean people of that generation were soft, or something. I don't think so. We simply had more respect for others and knew how to behave. We learned that from our parents.
I don't want to get into a political debate but when most men in the country worked in hard physical industries like the pits and steelworks etc they learned a code of behaviour from the older men and after hard work they didn't want to through their money into too much drink, drugs and gambling. Only a personal opinion.
I agree with some parts but plenty of people wasted money on drink and gambling back in the day too. My older female relatives will back me up on that! :lol:


If you see the Haka from the 60’s people would be too busy pissing themselves with laughter to do much else!



That’s before the advertising people got involved and made it a product. It’s now apparently mystical...back in the day it was just a bit of a fairy dance.

Re: Typical Knobhead "who are you"response to the folk doing the haka at the weigh inn

Posted: 31 Mar 2018, 05:15
by jamamb
omg what a f@cking fairy boy dance it used to be, how did it go from that to were gonna destroy you :lol:

Re: Typical Knobhead "who are you"response to the folk doing the haka at the weigh inn

Posted: 31 Mar 2018, 05:22
by Alba
jamamb wrote: 31 Mar 2018, 05:15 omg what a f@cking fairy boy dance it used to be, how did it go from that to were gonna destroy you :lol:
Did you enjoy shouting Who are ya yesterday?

Re: Typical Knobhead "who are you"response to the folk doing the haka at the weigh inn

Posted: 31 Mar 2018, 05:27
by jamamb
no sir, i consider myself of the superior class of knob head who only does his knob heading online

and that old haka omg :D

Re: Typical Knobhead "who are you"response to the folk doing the haka at the weigh inn

Posted: 31 Mar 2018, 05:27
by banjo
jamamb wrote: 31 Mar 2018, 05:15 omg what a f@cking fairy boy dance it used to be, how did it go from that to were gonna destroy you :lol:
It's as intimidating as the macarena.

Re: Typical Knobhead "who are you"response to the folk doing the haka at the weigh inn

Posted: 31 Mar 2018, 05:29
by jamamb
now that you mention it, maybe they should go full on macarena with it, that would get the other side really worried about what there gonna try :yay:

Re: Typical Knobhead "who are you"response to the folk doing the haka at the weigh inn

Posted: 31 Mar 2018, 05:32
by banjo
dalcumly wrote: 31 Mar 2018, 04:50 In the 1960's, if Henry Cooper had fought a New Zealander and someone had performed the haka, everyone would have watched and clapped when it was finished. If anyone had attempted to 'boo' it, they'd have got a hard slap across the back of the head.
Does that mean people of that generation were soft, or something. I don't think so. We simply had more respect for others and knew how to behave. We learned that from our parents.
I don't want to get into a political debate but when most men in the country worked in hard physical industries like the pits and steelworks etc they learned a code of behaviour from the older men and after hard work they didn't want to through their money into too much drink, drugs and gambling. Only a personal opinion.
I think every working class man ended up in the pub back in the day, far more so than now I reckon as most local pubs are either on their arse or gone completely. My grandad who was a joiner said he got most of his jobs from going to the pub, very important place back in the day as that was your social media.

Re: Typical Knobhead "who are you"response to the folk doing the haka at the weigh inn

Posted: 31 Mar 2018, 06:41
by Old Jack J
lillywhite14 wrote: 31 Mar 2018, 05:05
dalcumly wrote: 31 Mar 2018, 04:50 In the 1960's, if Henry Cooper had fought a New Zealander and someone had performed the haka, everyone would have watched and clapped when it was finished. If anyone had attempted to 'boo' it, they'd have got a hard slap across the back of the head.
Does that mean people of that generation were soft, or something. I don't think so. We simply had more respect for others and knew how to behave. We learned that from our parents.
I don't want to get into a political debate but when most men in the country worked in hard physical industries like the pits and steelworks etc they learned a code of behaviour from the older men and after hard work they didn't want to through their money into too much drink, drugs and gambling. Only a personal opinion.
I agree with some parts but plenty of people wasted money on drink and gambling back in the day too. My older female relatives will back me up on that! :lol:


If you see the Haka from the 60’s people would be too busy pissing themselves with laughter to do much else!



That’s before the advertising people got involved and made it a product. It’s now apparently mystical...back in the day it was just a bit of a fairy dance.
Give the haka lads from the 20s some sticks and put some bells on their legs and we have some morris dancing.

As for being disrespectful? Suppose it is. Personally I wouldn't have booed it but I'm OK with it to a point. If it's just pantomime stuff. If it becomes intimidating to others around it or becomes physical then it enters new waters.

Let's face it, they knew it would get that kind of reaction when they booked it for the weight in. It would be part of the entertainment and it's extra publicity for the fight. They probably even figured that some people would debate it just like this thread has! It's all propaganda at the end of the day.

As for the British people being the worst? I wouldn't say so anymore. There are far worse crowds doing worse things. In Britain the minutes silence is usually very well behaved and if someone starts making noise during it they get told immediately to shut up.

Re: Typical Knobhead "who are you"response to the folk doing the haka at the weigh inn

Posted: 31 Mar 2018, 07:23
by asdfjkl
Oh come on, even quite a bunch of casuals have heard about Hughie Fury vs Parker. Maybe they don't know much about his background, but I think the dance they made will make quite a bunch of people talking, which makes the fight bigger again.
I like the fact Povetkin is also on the undercard, it's likely that AJ has to fight Povetkin next, perhaps he could even do it in Russia. The Russians also know how to hype a fight, they are far superior in such things compared to the Americans for example.

Re: Typical Knobhead "who are you"response to the folk doing the haka at the weigh inn

Posted: 31 Mar 2018, 08:05
by liamlion
Deep rooted xenophobia is the cause.

You only have to flick through the sun newspaper and daily mail each day to see the racism that is being conditioned into the unwitting and less conscious.

The whole Brexit campaign was run on a narrative that EU foreigners are clueless, rip-off merchants and we can do better without them, on our own. We simply have very little respect for foreign cultures.

Re: Typical Knobhead "who are you"response to the folk doing the haka at the weigh inn

Posted: 31 Mar 2018, 08:13
by black panther
dalcumly wrote: 31 Mar 2018, 04:50 In the 1960's, if Henry Cooper had fought a New Zealander and someone had performed the haka, everyone would have watched and clapped when it was finished. If anyone had attempted to 'boo' it, they'd have got a hard slap across the back of the head.
Does that mean people of that generation were soft, or something. I don't think so. We simply had more respect for others and knew how to behave. We learned that from our parents.
I don't want to get into a political debate but when most men in the country worked in hard physical industries like the pits and steelworks etc they learned a code of behaviour from the older men and after hard work they didn't want to through their money into too much drink, drugs and gambling. Only a personal opinion.
Great post :TU:

Re: Typical Knobhead "who are you"response to the folk doing the haka at the weigh inn

Posted: 31 Mar 2018, 08:43
by rd350lc
jamesmcdonnell wrote: 31 Mar 2018, 04:31
lillywhite14 wrote: 31 Mar 2018, 04:27 I’ve been pissed on by Germans at a game in Berlin.
What about the Russians at the last Euro’s in France? Poles were just as bad too.
Difference is, if it’s against the English, somehow it’s seen as deserved.

Every nation has its fair share of divs.
The Haka is a load of tosh, but it can be entertaining. It’s been “disrespected” for years, by the Irish National side, apparently by Brian O’Driscoll, the Italians simply ignored it and trotted off to throw a ball about down the other end of the pitch. These and many other instances are widely available to view on YouTube. I’d say the Haka is probably more respected at Twickenham than anyone else too.
Does not sit with the ‘English are the biggest divs’ bollocks though I guess.

Why is it revered so much? Check out what it looked like 30 years ago. Was something like a Morris dance until the all blacks and Adidas decided they wanted to change it and use it as a product.
I agree. My point is people act like the haka is sacred. Why anybody needs to take notice of a bunch of people doing a silly dance is beyond me.
Agreed , nobody should need to take notice , but respect it by remaining quiet through it .

I'm embarrassed to be English at times .

Might be an old fashioned miserable old git I suppose .

Re: Typical Knobhead "who are you"response to the folk doing the haka at the weigh inn

Posted: 31 Mar 2018, 08:51
by forcefraser
The U.K. has some absolute arses. The chav mentality is pathetic.

it's an island race thing coupled with a massive slide in moral standards

Re: Typical Knobhead "who are you"response to the folk doing the haka at the weigh inn

Posted: 31 Mar 2018, 08:59
by jamamb
embarrased to be englsh? no need at all. a few nobs dont defne every englshman. plenty of good stuff done by englsh too if you want to use select examples to defne all.

act how you feels rght and dont feel embarrased because some ppl are tits. you can find them wherever around the world. at argey shows they might even storm the ring and assault the boxers.

Re: Typical Knobhead "who are you"response to the folk doing the haka at the weigh inn

Posted: 31 Mar 2018, 09:23
by liamlion
jamesmcdonnell wrote: 31 Mar 2018, 04:31
lillywhite14 wrote: 31 Mar 2018, 04:27 I’ve been pissed on by Germans at a game in Berlin.
What about the Russians at the last Euro’s in France? Poles were just as bad too.
Difference is, if it’s against the English, somehow it’s seen as deserved.

Every nation has its fair share of divs.
The Haka is a load of tosh, but it can be entertaining. It’s been “disrespected” for years, by the Irish National side, apparently by Brian O’Driscoll, the Italians simply ignored it and trotted off to throw a ball about down the other end of the pitch. These and many other instances are widely available to view on YouTube. I’d say the Haka is probably more respected at Twickenham than anyone else too.
Does not sit with the ‘English are the biggest divs’ bollocks though I guess.

Why is it revered so much? Check out what it looked like 30 years ago. Was something like a Morris dance until the all blacks and Adidas decided they wanted to change it and use it as a product.
I agree. My point is people act like the haka is sacred. Why anybody needs to take notice of a bunch of people doing a silly dance is beyond me.
What's so wrong with having some common decency and respecting the culture of visiting people, and more so respecting performers who have been hired by the promoter for entertainment?

The Haka is famous the world over and is symbolic of a tough, proud, fighting culture. Those performers were hired by the promotion to give some flavour and added atmosphere to the weigh-in.

What is it with trying to demean anything that isn't English or British? Quite sad really.

Re: Typical Knobhead "who are you"response to the folk doing the haka at the weigh inn

Posted: 31 Mar 2018, 10:36
by blanca
liamlion wrote: 31 Mar 2018, 08:05 Deep rooted xenophobia is the cause.

You only have to flick through the sun newspaper and daily mail each day to see the racism that is being conditioned into the unwitting and less conscious.

The whole Brexit campaign was run on a narrative that EU foreigners are clueless, rip-off merchants and we can do better without them, on our own. We simply have very little respect for foreign cultures.
On the money pal.

Re: Typical Knobhead "who are you"response to the folk doing the haka at the weigh inn

Posted: 31 Mar 2018, 11:02
by jamesmcdonnell
liamlion wrote: 31 Mar 2018, 09:23
jamesmcdonnell wrote: 31 Mar 2018, 04:31
lillywhite14 wrote: 31 Mar 2018, 04:27 I’ve been pissed on by Germans at a game in Berlin.
What about the Russians at the last Euro’s in France? Poles were just as bad too.
Difference is, if it’s against the English, somehow it’s seen as deserved.

Every nation has its fair share of divs.
The Haka is a load of tosh, but it can be entertaining. It’s been “disrespected” for years, by the Irish National side, apparently by Brian O’Driscoll, the Italians simply ignored it and trotted off to throw a ball about down the other end of the pitch. These and many other instances are widely available to view on YouTube. I’d say the Haka is probably more respected at Twickenham than anyone else too.
Does not sit with the ‘English are the biggest divs’ bollocks though I guess.

Why is it revered so much? Check out what it looked like 30 years ago. Was something like a Morris dance until the all blacks and Adidas decided they wanted to change it and use it as a product.
I agree. My point is people act like the haka is sacred. Why anybody needs to take notice of a bunch of people doing a silly dance is beyond me.
What's so wrong with having some common decency and respecting the culture of visiting people, and more so respecting performers who have been hired by the promoter for entertainment?

I see no reason whatsoever to treak the haka with reverence, it's just a ritual. I don't see why chanting 'who are ya' is an insult to anybody's culture, it's just representative of English terrace culture.

The Haka is famous the world over and is symbolic of a tough, proud, fighting culture. Those performers were hired by the promotion to give some flavour and added atmosphere to the weigh-in.

What is it with trying to demean anything that isn't English or British? Quite sad really.

Re: Typical Knobhead "who are you"response to the folk doing the haka at the weigh inn

Posted: 31 Mar 2018, 12:01
by Alba
liamlion wrote: 31 Mar 2018, 08:05 Deep rooted xenophobia is the cause.

You only have to flick through the sun newspaper and daily mail each day to see the racism that is being conditioned into the unwitting and less conscious.

The whole Brexit campaign was run on a narrative that EU foreigners are clueless, rip-off merchants and we can do better without them, on our own. We simply have very little respect for foreign cultures.
This, couldn't have put it any better

Re: Typical Knobhead "who are you"response to the folk doing the haka at the weigh inn

Posted: 31 Mar 2018, 12:41
by oogiebe
BitPlayer wrote: 30 Mar 2018, 20:10 Stuff like this makes me hate British people.

Though I think it's more just I see it when it's us.
It's not just 'British People' it's all people

Re: Typical Knobhead "who are you"response to the folk doing the haka at the weigh inn

Posted: 31 Mar 2018, 14:04
by Sids
jamamb wrote: 31 Mar 2018, 04:09 who has the worst knobs?
Australia...

Re: Typical Knobhead "who are you"response to the folk doing the haka at the weigh inn

Posted: 31 Mar 2018, 14:42
by Gnome
rd350lc wrote: 31 Mar 2018, 04:17
jamamb wrote: 31 Mar 2018, 04:09 who has the worst knobs?
We do , by a million miles .

Don't seem to know the meaning of respect .

Wait till this football tournament in the summer , I'm sure the hooligan element will see us right .
By a million miles? Nonsense. Monkey calls in Russia and Italy, German hooligans attacking families in the stands, Argentines spitting on players as they go past. You need to expand your horizons and stop with the self-loathing.