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punchoutsb wrote: ↑09 Apr 2018, 22:27

tiny_acres wrote: ↑09 Apr 2018, 22:21

punchoutsb wrote: ↑09 Apr 2018, 21:59

26 year old AJ's 17th pro fight and first title defense.

32 year old DW's 41st pro fight and and eighth title defense.

Seems about the same to me

Yet Breazeale is higher rated now than then.
So it should even up your argument

I'm not making an argument, but if I were it wouldn't.

Then badhusker is correct. Hypocrisy

tiny_acres wrote: ↑09 Apr 2018, 22:31

punchoutsb wrote: ↑09 Apr 2018, 22:27

tiny_acres wrote: ↑09 Apr 2018, 22:21

Yet Breazeale is higher rated now than then.
So it should even up your argument

I'm not making an argument, but if I were it wouldn't.

Then badhusker is correct. Hypocrisy

I'm perfectly fine with Breazeale as an opponent for Wilder because of the divisions thinness at the top so no hypocrisy from me. By beating Ortiz Wilder showed that he can beat the best HW has to offer.

I was simply pointing out the difference in AJ at that time and Wilder at this to poke fun at badhusker.

Are you trying to make a point?

Badhusker wrote: ↑09 Apr 2018, 22:22

punchoutsb wrote: ↑09 Apr 2018, 21:59

Badhusker wrote: ↑09 Apr 2018, 17:52 The hypocrisy always comes out. Good enough for AJ but not for Wilder.....makes me laugh.

26 year old AJ's 17th pro fight and first title defense.

32 year old DW's 41st pro fight and and eighth title defense.

Seems about the same to me

Yes, poor AJ. He said last year no one can force him to fight Wilder and rush his career. Funny he didn't feel rushed when he fought Wlad, who many here still think is far better than Wilder.
I guess fighting Breazeale is more his pace, and shouldn't be criticized. He should have fought Ortiz then, but that might rush him.

The number of rounds in pros for both guys is low, so not light years difference like many claim.
If you are AJ, the champ, and if you have to slow your career down to gain experience, you need to either vacate the belt or suck it up and take on the best at your weight.

He found a way to avoid Ortiz, and will probably find a way to avoid Povetkin until he gets older too. Both guys might rush hos career too much.

Did you call for Wilder to vacate when he was defending against less than stellar opposition? As I recall you were on the front lines defending every opponent (and potential opponent) for one reason or another. That, my friend, is hypocrisy.

I don't like Wilder for Breazeale right now... I didn't like the AJ fight for him because it was a dead certain lock that Dominic was going to take a severe beating and get knocked out... He got good money from that fight... My feeling is when you get more money you get better coaching... You have to move the needle farther and faster.

Breazeale is criticizing Wilder's technical skills... Wilder has a stronger and more mobile stance that allows him to sit down and get better leverage.. He's can get better range with his stance and generate more power.. He can punch quicker and more accurately and with more speed.. He can defend himself better.. Breazeale has had 2 fights in the last 2 years... He had to recover from what Joshua did to him, that takes a long time... That's why you don't want to take beatings and that was a severe beating.. You need recovery time like being in an auto accident.

You don't take fights until you're ready... Parker has been improving with every fight... Now he has 25 fights... He's 26.. Parker could fight again in 3 months if his eye heals up.. He took minimal damage, though he lost 12 rounds.. Breazeale gets hit more and harder when he wins a fight.. Don't critique Wilder's skills, work on your own skills.. You get hit.

Breazeale is 6'7" X 250.. He's a great athlete.. He has natural punching power.. His speed and balance would look better with better skills.. He's been a professional for 6 years.. You have to work harder with more intensity.. Pay better attention to what you're doing.. You don't try to break somebody's ass with every punch.. Just make contact.. make contact.. throw light punches.. Score with your punches, that's the main idea.. Then when you get a big opening you put more juice on your shots.. AJ was touching you... touching you.. touching you - and defending everything you threw... It didn't happen in 1 or 2 rounds, but he was beating the crap out of you... You're impatient.. You need to set your punches up.

You think it's going to be different with Wilder? ... How many fights does Wilder have and how many fights do you have? ... I wouldn't be in a super big hurry to make this fight.. You could win it in a couple years with improved skills.

punchoutsb wrote: ↑09 Apr 2018, 22:41

Badhusker wrote: ↑09 Apr 2018, 22:22

punchoutsb wrote: ↑09 Apr 2018, 21:59 26 year old AJ's 17th pro fight and first title defense.
32 year old DW's 41st pro fight and and eighth title defense.

Seems about the same to me

Yes, poor AJ. He said last year no one can force him to fight Wilder and rush his career. Funny he didn't feel rushed when he fought Wlad, who many here still think is far better than Wilder.
I guess fighting Breazeale is more his pace, and shouldn't be criticized. He should have fought Ortiz then, but that might rush him.

The number of rounds in pros for both guys is low, so not light years difference like many claim.
If you are AJ, the champ, and if you have to slow your career down to gain experience, you need to either vacate the belt or suck it up and take on the best at your weight.

He found a way to avoid Ortiz, and will probably find a way to avoid Povetkin until he gets older too. Both guys might rush hos career too much.

Did you call for Wilder to vacate when he was defending against less than stellar opposition? As I recall you were on the front lines defending every opponent (and potential opponent) for one reason or another. That, my friend, is hypocrisy.

+1 Wilder always fought rank 13 or lower as far as I remember, all the way untill some retard called Stiverne received another free titleshot.

who all is saying breazeales an unacceptable opponent for wilder but wasnt for aj?

f@cking badhusker mate, your more biased on wilder then anyone ive seen here, in a rage you even asked for someone to be banned for starting a joke thread about wilder testing positive for h20

breazeale to me was fine for both guys, and i dont think hes any better now then when aj fought him. its a simple fact though that aj faced him after like 3 years pro while wilder might be doing itt after 10. aj has obviously been moved waaay faster

tiny_acres wrote: ↑09 Apr 2018, 22:31

punchoutsb wrote: ↑09 Apr 2018, 22:27

tiny_acres wrote: ↑09 Apr 2018, 22:21

Yet Breazeale is higher rated now than then.
So it should even up your argument

I'm not making an argument, but if I were it wouldn't.

Then badhusker is correct. Hypocrisy

f@cking hell guys, are you the 'leave deontay alone!' squad, its not hypocrisy at all to point out the factual timelines

give it a rest

breazeale is fine enough for both, breazeale would be kod by both, but aj did face him after 3 years/17 fights pro at 26, while it would be 10 years/40fights at 32 or 33 for wilder

the hypocrisy moaning seems pretty contrivened when hardly anyones saying breazeale was all good for aj but not acceptable for wilder

Two great posts in a row, jamamb