the total split money in aj fights

Wales
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Re: the total split money in aj fights

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If it happened in the U.K. , main event at UK time, would a US channel pick it up PPV and would it sell?

Latest main event time to suit the U.K. would be 23:00 which would be ....

18:00 Main event start time in New York
15:00 Main event start time in Vegas

Would US channels put it on and sell PPVs with main event starting those times?
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Re: the total split money in aj fights

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armageto wrote: 11 Apr 2018, 16:26
asdfjkl wrote: 11 Apr 2018, 15:56
armageto wrote: 11 Apr 2018, 13:01 This is pointless. All I'm saying, Wilder deserves 35%, seeing Parker got 33 1/3%. Do you agree?
If this fight generates big money, sorry man, it would have a lot to do with Wilder. This is the biggest fight in the HW division in years and the biggest (IMO) in boxing to make right now. To say Wilder has no part of that is silly.
But don't you agree that this fight could easely have been much much bigger if Wilder had a win against Whyte, Parker, Hughie, Dubois, Joe Joyce, name them? Or will be much bigger in the US if AJ fights a few Americans? Or even Ortiz?
Of course it will be much bigger if AJ fights in the US and increases exposure to fight fans in the states. Thus one reason why Miller is a possible opponent. Just the same Wilder can expand his coverage in the UK, fighting a HW from there. It also shows why there was no date/location on the offer. Hearn wants to pitch low, and build the fight over a year.
Still, you avoided the question. What % do you think Wilder deserves? Not how much the fight will make, how much money he should make, etc. What % do you think Wilder should make from the purse?
Well, when AJ planned to fight in the US, Wilder was the first one to scream AJ shouldn't do it. I think 20% is very very fair.
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Re: the total split money in aj fights

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asdfjkl wrote: 11 Apr 2018, 21:06
armageto wrote: 11 Apr 2018, 16:26
asdfjkl wrote: 11 Apr 2018, 15:56
But don't you agree that this fight could easely have been much much bigger if Wilder had a win against Whyte, Parker, Hughie, Dubois, Joe Joyce, name them? Or will be much bigger in the US if AJ fights a few Americans? Or even Ortiz?
Of course it will be much bigger if AJ fights in the US and increases exposure to fight fans in the states. Thus one reason why Miller is a possible opponent. Just the same Wilder can expand his coverage in the UK, fighting a HW from there. It also shows why there was no date/location on the offer. Hearn wants to pitch low, and build the fight over a year.
Still, you avoided the question. What % do you think Wilder deserves? Not how much the fight will make, how much money he should make, etc. What % do you think Wilder should make from the purse?
Well, when AJ planned to fight in the US, Wilder was the first one to scream AJ shouldn't do it. I think 20% is very very fair.
We just agree to disagree. If Parker got 33%, Wilder should get at least the same. Now we can question if the initial offer will equal that or not, but I don't see why Parker deserves 13% more.
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armageto wrote: 11 Apr 2018, 21:30
asdfjkl wrote: 11 Apr 2018, 21:06
armageto wrote: 11 Apr 2018, 16:26 Of course it will be much bigger if AJ fights in the US and increases exposure to fight fans in the states. Thus one reason why Miller is a possible opponent. Just the same Wilder can expand his coverage in the UK, fighting a HW from there. It also shows why there was no date/location on the offer. Hearn wants to pitch low, and build the fight over a year.
Still, you avoided the question. What % do you think Wilder deserves? Not how much the fight will make, how much money he should make, etc. What % do you think Wilder should make from the purse?
Well, when AJ planned to fight in the US, Wilder was the first one to scream AJ shouldn't do it. I think 20% is very very fair.
We just agree to disagree. If Parker got 33%, Wilder should get at least the same. Now we can question if the initial offer will equal that or not, but I don't see why Parker deserves 13% more.
Because AJ had 25% less belts just before that match as he has right now? If Wilder beats Parker he might also get 33%, perhaps even a little more.
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There’s no logical reason why Wilder shouldn’t get at least the same split as Parker. I realise it’s a massive increase in his usual pay but let’s be honest, apart from Fury, Wilder was the real other challenger out there. Parker Just picked up a belt by Fury dropping them.
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Covfefe wrote: 11 Apr 2018, 21:47 There’s no logical reason why Wilder shouldn’t get at least the same split as Parker. I realise it’s a massive increase in his usual pay but let’s be honest, apart from Fury, Wilder was the real other challenger out there. Parker Just picked up a belt by Fury dropping them.
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oogiebe wrote: 11 Apr 2018, 22:00
Covfefe wrote: 11 Apr 2018, 21:47 There’s no logical reason why Wilder shouldn’t get at least the same split as Parker. I realise it’s a massive increase in his usual pay but let’s be honest, apart from Fury, Wilder was the real other challenger out there. Parker Just picked up a belt by Fury dropping them.
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Who the hell was Parker in the US? An absolute nobody.

Nobody here would have paid to see him fight Joshua on PPV.

But they'll pay to see Joshua take on Wilder here.

No, fans won't buy the fight in any record setting numbers. Joshua and Wilder are still vague names to casual US fans.

But Wilder is certainly worth a lot more than Parker when it comes to American interest and even worldwide interest in this matchup.

To deny that is to be disingenuous.

Just ask 50 fans if they'd prefer to see a Joshua-Parker rematch or Joshua-Wilder.

Unless you query New Zealand fans, it's going to be unanimous for Wilder.

That's a no brainer.

Wilder brings the fearsome punch, the promotional skills and the reputation. Not to mention American fans who will foot a good portion of PPV sales.

To offer Wilder the same or less than Parker and claim it's a legitimate offer is obviously absurd.

It's saying that you prefer to pass on the fight.
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It's not about fair. It's not about logical., and there is no magical formula. So put away the calculators.

It's about 2 parties doing what it takes to get 2 signatures on a contract.
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Re: the total split money in aj fights

Post by Kalan »

armageto wrote: 11 Apr 2018, 16:26
asdfjkl wrote: 11 Apr 2018, 15:56
armageto wrote: 11 Apr 2018, 13:01
This is pointless. All I'm saying, Wilder deserves 35%, seeing Parker got 33 1/3%. Do you agree?

If this fight generates big money, sorry man, it would have a lot to do with Wilder. This is the biggest fight in the HW division in years and the biggest (IMO) in boxing to make right now. To say Wilder has no part of that is silly.
But don't you agree that this fight could easely have been much much bigger if Wilder had a win against Whyte, Parker, Hughie, Dubois, Joe Joyce, name them? Or will be much bigger in the US if AJ fights a few Americans? Or even Ortiz?
Of course it will be much bigger if AJ fights in the US and increases exposure to fight fans in the states. Thus one reason why Miller is a possible opponent. Just the same Wilder can expand his coverage in the UK, fighting a HW from there. It also shows why there was no date/location on the offer. Hearn wants to pitch low, and build the fight over a year.

Still, you avoided the question. What % do you think Wilder deserves? Not how much the fight will make, how much money he should make, etc. What % do you think Wilder should make from the purse?
I don't think you want to offer him a percentage... I think you offer him a flat amount that's many times more than he ever made for any other fight... The reason is the fight could flop... Or it could catch on and do better than anybody expects... If it does get interest and gets real big, you don't want Wilder getting so much more than he deserves to get.
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Re: the total split money in aj fights

Post by tiny_acres »

Kalan wrote: 12 Apr 2018, 03:16
armageto wrote: 11 Apr 2018, 16:26
asdfjkl wrote: 11 Apr 2018, 15:56
But don't you agree that this fight could easely have been much much bigger if Wilder had a win against Whyte, Parker, Hughie, Dubois, Joe Joyce, name them? Or will be much bigger in the US if AJ fights a few Americans? Or even Ortiz?
Of course it will be much bigger if AJ fights in the US and increases exposure to fight fans in the states. Thus one reason why Miller is a possible opponent. Just the same Wilder can expand his coverage in the UK, fighting a HW from there. It also shows why there was no date/location on the offer. Hearn wants to pitch low, and build the fight over a year.

Still, you avoided the question. What % do you think Wilder deserves? Not how much the fight will make, how much money he should make, etc. What % do you think Wilder should make from the purse?
If it does get interest and gets real big, you don't want Wilder getting so much more than he deserves to get.
If it gets real big you don't want Wilder to get a fair share????
This makes no sense what so ever
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