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Coco wrote: ↑17 Apr 2018, 16:17 I guess some boards turn a bit of a blind eye.
Most trainers need to earn a living outside of the pro game too.

Coco wrote: ↑17 Apr 2018, 16:17 I guess some boards turn a bit of a blind eye.
Most trainers need to earn a living outside of the pro game too.

leejonesjnr wrote: ↑17 Apr 2018, 17:10

Coco wrote: ↑17 Apr 2018, 16:17 I guess some boards turn a bit of a blind eye.
Most trainers need to earn a living outside of the pro game too.

Meh, I’m not really onboard with that as a justification.
When you become a license holder part of the application and the rules you agree to abide by state that you cannot be involved in any combat sport outside of BBBoC professional boxing and I believe that if you don’t want to agree that is absolutely fine - don’t become a license holder.

mickey1975 wrote: ↑17 Apr 2018, 17:36

leejonesjnr wrote: ↑17 Apr 2018, 17:10

Coco wrote: ↑17 Apr 2018, 16:17 I guess some boards turn a bit of a blind eye.
Most trainers need to earn a living outside of the pro game too.

Meh, I’m not really onboard with that as a justification.
When you become a license holder part of the application and the rules you agree to abide by state that you cannot be involved in any combat sport outside of BBBoC professional boxing and I believe that if you don’t want to agree that is absolutely fine - don’t become a license holder.

Blind eyes need to be turned or there’ll be no pro boxing left! Let’s face it, unlicensed is here to stay, very popular and accessible and a lot of fights are better than your 40-36 down the card shows. They are incredibly boring and promoters are ruining good fighters with ticket demands. Every fighter I know apologises for even asking!

REEVE wrote: ↑18 Apr 2018, 17:12 Getting on about "semi pro" on the last show i boxed on a lad made his debut he was 17-0 in semi pro

.....he got stopped in the first round and afterwards he said he coudlnt belive the differnce in standars between pro and "semi" pro

mickey1975 wrote: ↑18 Apr 2018, 17:30

REEVE wrote: ↑18 Apr 2018, 17:12 Getting on about "semi pro" on the last show i boxed on a lad made his debut he was 17-0 in semi pro

.....he got stopped in the first round and afterwards he said he coudlnt belive the differnce in standars between pro and "semi" pro

Was he a bit thick?

mickey1975 wrote: ↑18 Apr 2018, 00:50 I’m a big fan of the traditional amateur-pro route but the lines are getting blurred.

leejonesjnr wrote: ↑17 Apr 2018, 17:10


When you become a license holder part of the application and the rules you agree to abide by state that you cannot be involved in any combat sport outside of BBBoC professional boxing and I believe that if you don’t want to agree that is absolutely fine - don’t become a license holder.

Wales wrote: ↑19 Apr 2018, 22:01

leejonesjnr wrote: ↑17 Apr 2018, 17:10


When you become a license holder part of the application and the rules you agree to abide by state that you cannot be involved in any combat sport outside of BBBoC professional boxing and I believe that if you don’t want to agree that is absolutely fine - don’t become a license holder.

Is that right? Is it documented publically anywhere?

mickey1975 wrote: ↑18 Apr 2018, 17:30

REEVE wrote: ↑18 Apr 2018, 17:12 Getting on about "semi pro" on the last show i boxed on a lad made his debut he was 17-0 in semi pro

.....he got stopped in the first round and afterwards he said he coudlnt belive the differnce in standars between pro and "semi" pro

Was he a bit thick?

higgs88 wrote: ↑23 Apr 2018, 06:15 Not read any comments so may well have been asked already, but WHAT THE F*UCK is semi pro

REEVE wrote: ↑23 Apr 2018, 08:15

higgs88 wrote: ↑23 Apr 2018, 06:15 Not read any comments so may well have been asked already, but WHAT THE F*UCK is semi pro

unlicensed mate

Wales wrote: ↑19 Apr 2018, 22:01

leejonesjnr wrote: ↑17 Apr 2018, 17:10


When you become a license holder part of the application and the rules you agree to abide by state that you cannot be involved in any combat sport outside of BBBoC professional boxing and I believe that if you don’t want to agree that is absolutely fine - don’t become a license holder.

Is that right? Is it documented publically anywhere?

olij999 wrote: ↑23 Apr 2018, 09:02

Wales wrote: ↑19 Apr 2018, 22:01

leejonesjnr wrote: ↑17 Apr 2018, 17:10


When you become a license holder part of the application and the rules you agree to abide by state that you cannot be involved in any combat sport outside of BBBoC professional boxing and I believe that if you don’t want to agree that is absolutely fine - don’t become a license holder.

Is that right? Is it documented publically anywhere?

The point about boxing for other organisations is set out in regulations 4.12 and 5.15 of the BBBofC regulations and applies to all licence holders - in short, you can only box on board shows and on shows of organisations recognised by / affiliated to the board, and in the latter case you still need to get permission. Those regs are in the little green book that all licence-holders have.

mickey1975 wrote: ↑23 Apr 2018, 09:20

olij999 wrote: ↑23 Apr 2018, 09:02

Wales wrote: ↑19 Apr 2018, 22:01

Is that right? Is it documented publically anywhere?

The point about boxing for other organisations is set out in regulations 4.12 and 5.15 of the BBBofC regulations and applies to all licence holders - in short, you can only box on board shows and on shows of organisations recognised by / affiliated to the board, and in the latter case you still need to get permission. Those regs are in the little green book that all licence-holders have.

Who ended up getting in trouble for Luxembourg?

olij999 wrote: ↑23 Apr 2018, 09:31

mickey1975 wrote: ↑23 Apr 2018, 09:20

olij999 wrote: ↑23 Apr 2018, 09:02

The point about boxing for other organisations is set out in regulations 4.12 and 5.15 of the BBBofC regulations and applies to all licence holders - in short, you can only box on board shows and on shows of organisations recognised by / affiliated to the board, and in the latter case you still need to get permission. Those regs are in the little green book that all licence-holders have.

Who ended up getting in trouble for Luxembourg?

Ha! Good try, Mickey! I'm afraid I'm bound by the confidentiality agreement that all people on Area Councils sign up to, so could not say even if I knew about it. In any event, it was all dealt with by the stewards at head office - I am not a big enough cheese for such things (thankfully!).

leejonesjnr wrote: ↑29 Apr 2018, 14:24

olij999 wrote: ↑23 Apr 2018, 09:31

mickey1975 wrote: ↑23 Apr 2018, 09:20
Who ended up getting in trouble for Luxembourg?

Ha! Good try, Mickey! I'm afraid I'm bound by the confidentiality agreement that all people on Area Councils sign up to, so could not say even if I knew about it. In any event, it was all dealt with by the stewards at head office - I am not a big enough cheese for such things (thankfully!).

What are your thoughts on license holders getting involved in unlicensed boxing and the BBBoC not acting?

spudder56 wrote: ↑29 Apr 2018, 14:41

leejonesjnr wrote: ↑29 Apr 2018, 14:24

olij999 wrote: ↑23 Apr 2018, 09:31

Ha! Good try, Mickey! I'm afraid I'm bound by the confidentiality agreement that all people on Area Councils sign up to, so could not say even if I knew about it. In any event, it was all dealt with by the stewards at head office - I am not a big enough cheese for such things (thankfully!).

What are your thoughts on license holders getting involved in unlicensed boxing and the BBBoC not acting?

I have personally seen several licences withdrawn for licence holders being involved in unlicensed boxing so the board do act when they have cast iron evidence etc

leejonesjnr wrote: ↑29 Apr 2018, 14:47

spudder56 wrote: ↑29 Apr 2018, 14:41

leejonesjnr wrote: ↑29 Apr 2018, 14:24

What are your thoughts on license holders getting involved in unlicensed boxing and the BBBoC not acting?

I have personally seen several licences withdrawn for licence holders being involved in unlicensed boxing so the board do act when they have cast iron evidence etc

Me too. I’m also aware of a number of current license holders who are involved in unlicensed boxing and happen to know that Robert Smith is also aware. The evidence in each case is indeed cast iron.
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Exactly lee a complete lack of consistency in decision making