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HeavyHitters wrote: ↑16 Apr 2018, 16:43

SenorPipino wrote: ↑16 Apr 2018, 14:53 In the past Fury has already said that he won't fight Briggs first fight back.

While Breazeale and Ustinov might be considered for his second or third comeback fight, (depending on how Fury looks in the first comeback bout) I really don't see either being selected for June 9th.

They can both fight a bit. You don't want that much risk after more than 2 1/2 years away.

Is Peter McNeely available?

I dunno, McPetey might just put Fury Boy in "A Cocoon Of Horror!"

You have to be a real McNeely groupie from waaaaaay back to remember that terrifying threat from him.

Too bad McNeely didn't last long enough to unleash it on Tyson.

It might have changed heavyweight history.

First fight back after 2 1/2 year lay off? ..... Ustinov works for me.

I think with Dominic Breazeale being an Al Haymon fighter, he may be limited to facing his fellow PBC stablemates. He’s also in line to receive a guaranteed shot at one of the titles, probably against Wilder.

Alexander Ustinov would be a good opponent for Tyson Fury, because a victory would ensure that he’s deemed as being a qualified top ten challenger for AJ’s WBA strap, though I doubt the Russian is capable of generating much interest or revenue on UK shores.

A fight against Shannon Briggs would be an easy sell to the UK market and is likely to generate a lot of money, but it doesn’t really help Fury much (other than to rid himself of some ring rust), because the American isn’t ranked by any of the sports’ governing bodies.

To be honest, I can’t help thinking that none of these three guys will be considered and that we’re more likely to see Tyson Fury face one of the following guys:
• Nathan Gorman
• Nick Webb
• Gary Cornish
• Antonio Tarver

All three would be stupid comeback opponents. Fury needs to find out where he is before going in against anyone credible. Ustinov and breazeale are credible fighters...and Briggs is dangerous for a first fight back in two and a half years. He,s done in most aspects but his power is still very good for however long his stamina allows.

You don't stick a comeback fighter in against anyone that can punch full stop....regardless how done they are. Same goes for really durable guys like breazeale. You could but at the same time its allegedly we,re talking about here. Fury won't be in with any of them three imo.

Of the three Ustinov makes the most sense to me - only moderate talent but durable and willing. Plus Fury owes him a payday after pulling out their scheduled fight last minute.

A guy maybe less strong and a little less durable might be better though. Maybe Dimitrenko?

Crazy that Fury was afraid to fight Ustinov on short notice. Anyways, I think Ustinov would be a good opponent as a comeback; although, all three are a big ask for someone coming off a long lay off. I still think he beats all three, though.

bbjc wrote: ↑16 Apr 2018, 19:20 All three would be stupid comeback opponents. Fury needs to find out where he is before going in against anyone credible. Ustinov and breazeale are credible fighters...and Briggs is dangerous for a first fight back in two and a half years. He,s done in most aspects but his power is still very good for however long his stamina allows.

You don't stick a comeback fighter in against anyone that can punch full stop....regardless how done they are. Same goes for really durable guys like breazeale. You could but at the same time its allegedly we,re talking about here. Fury won't be in with any of them three imo.

He beat Christian Hammer while being horribly overweight. Fury is extremely talented, but I wouldn't put him in there with any of the three on his first comeback fight, though.

oogiebe wrote: ↑16 Apr 2018, 16:13

x2x wrote: ↑16 Apr 2018, 16:06

oogiebe wrote: ↑16 Apr 2018, 12:42 Braezeale is NOT a good fight for Fury out of the gate. He would be good for a third fight or better, depending on Fury's first and/or second performance, once his comeback is in full swing. Braezeale poses a danger to Fury as no one knows how he will react first time in the ring.

I agree. Ustinov could be too rough for an initial comeback fight too. What about some low ranked guy, or maybe Briggs, if they just want it to be a wwe-style sports entertainment carny show with a lot of blustering and yelling?

LOL! Fury already applies the latter...

Yeah, Fury ranting and raving and breaking into song, and then add Briggs maniacally bellowing "Let's go champ!" over and over and over. The decibal level would be like standing on an airport tarmac beside a giant jet plane revving for take off!

Doubt it’ll be anyone anywhere near that level

Eddie Hearn said he couldn’t agree terms with Fury because of the level of opponents Team Fury wanted for his first 3 fights . Hearns quotes don’t indicate Fury was looking at fighters the level of Braezeale or Ustinov

. ”The bravado and the reality are two very different things. The reality is he wants to come back and have three fights against some really low level opponents to get himself [back to the top],” Hearn said

http://www.boxingnews24.com/2018/03/tys ... ck-boxing/

Mexi-Box wrote: ↑16 Apr 2018, 20:06 Crazy that Fury was afraid to fight Ustinov on short notice.

What are you talking about?

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑16 Apr 2018, 20:28

Mexi-Box wrote: ↑16 Apr 2018, 20:06 Crazy that Fury was afraid to fight Ustinov on short notice.

What are you talking about?

Fury was scheduled to fight Chisora. Chisora broke his hand about a week before the fight and Ustinov stepped in at short notice.
Fury then pulled out the day before because his uncle and trainer and fallen ill and couldn’t be there

I assume he’s talking about that

Was back in 2013/2014 ish

Wales wrote: ↑16 Apr 2018, 20:43

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑16 Apr 2018, 20:28

Mexi-Box wrote: ↑16 Apr 2018, 20:06 Crazy that Fury was afraid to fight Ustinov on short notice.

What are you talking about?

Fury was scheduled to fight Chisora. Chisora broke his hand about a week before the fight and Ustinov stepped in at short notice.
Fury then pulled out the day before because his uncle and trainer and fallen ill and couldn’t be there

I assume he’s talking about that

Was back in 2013/2014 ish

And why does Mexi-Box claim that Fury was scared of facing Ustinov? A lack of knowledge maybe, or simply trolling?

I voted Breazeale because that would be a fight worth watching, but realistically Breazeale is too much after such a long lay-off. Ustinov would strike a nice balance because he isn't too threatening - he never was all that even at his best and now he is well and truly over the hill.

I know Fury isn't everyone's cup of tea but he is one of a select group of fighters that could fight for the world heavyweight title and have a serious chance of winning. Any boxer that one can say that about has my full support and good wishes. The heavyweight division needs credible contenders and the more the merrier.

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑17 Apr 2018, 03:28

Wales wrote: ↑16 Apr 2018, 20:43

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑16 Apr 2018, 20:28
What are you talking about?

Fury was scheduled to fight Chisora. Chisora broke his hand about a week before the fight and Ustinov stepped in at short notice.
Fury then pulled out the day before because his uncle and trainer and fallen ill and couldn’t be there

I assume he’s talking about that

Was back in 2013/2014 ish

And why does Mexi-Box claim that Fury was scared of facing Ustinov? A lack of knowledge maybe, or simply trolling?

Well, a 6ft7 300 pound guy from Russia with 30 wins on 7 days notice ain't a joke if you got knocked down by Steve Cunningham just before.

/he wont be fighting any of those. Look for someone not in the top 100.

SenorPipino wrote: ↑16 Apr 2018, 14:53 In the past Fury has already said that he won't fight Briggs first fight back.

While Breazeale and Ustinov might be considered for his second or third comeback fight, (depending on how Fury looks in the first comeback bout) I really don't see either being selected for June 9th.

They can both fight a bit. You don't want that much risk after more than 2 1/2 years away.

Is Peter McNeely available?

Good shout: If he doesn't fancy it, then Mark De Mori or Arnold Gjergjaj must be knocking about somewhere?

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑17 Apr 2018, 03:28

Wales wrote: ↑16 Apr 2018, 20:43

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑16 Apr 2018, 20:28
What are you talking about?

Fury was scheduled to fight Chisora. Chisora broke his hand about a week before the fight and Ustinov stepped in at short notice.
Fury then pulled out the day before because his uncle and trainer and fallen ill and couldn’t be there

I assume he’s talking about that

Was back in 2013/2014 ish

And why does Mexi-Box claim that Fury was scared of facing Ustinov? A lack of knowledge maybe, or simply trolling?

Because it's the truth. You've obviously not been following boxing for very long. It wasn't a shameless duck or anything, but you could tell that Fury wasn't keen on fighting Ustinov on a short notice.

Mexi-Box wrote: ↑17 Apr 2018, 04:47

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑17 Apr 2018, 03:28

Wales wrote: ↑16 Apr 2018, 20:43

Fury was scheduled to fight Chisora. Chisora broke his hand about a week before the fight and Ustinov stepped in at short notice.
Fury then pulled out the day before because his uncle and trainer and fallen ill and couldn’t be there

I assume he’s talking about that

Was back in 2013/2014 ish

And why does Mexi-Box claim that Fury was scared of facing Ustinov? A lack of knowledge maybe, or simply trolling?

Because it's the truth. You've obviously not been following boxing for very long. It wasn't a shameless duck or anything, but you could tell that Fury wasn't keen on fighting Ustinov on a short notice.

Stop with the "not been following boxing for long" bûllshît!

You made a claim that you cannot possibly substantiate, because it's merely a fictional accusation on your part.

Fury's reasons for withdrawing from that bout were legitimate. He wasn't scared to showboat and dominate Wladimir Klitschko in the Ukraine's own backyard, so he wouldn't have been scared of Ustinov.

FFS!

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑17 Apr 2018, 04:52

Mexi-Box wrote: ↑17 Apr 2018, 04:47

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑17 Apr 2018, 03:28
And why does Mexi-Box claim that Fury was scared of facing Ustinov? A lack of knowledge maybe, or simply trolling?

Because it's the truth. You've obviously not been following boxing for very long. It wasn't a shameless duck or anything, but you could tell that Fury wasn't keen on fighting Ustinov on a short notice.

Stop with the "not been following boxing for long" bûllshît!

You made a claim that you cannot possibly substantiate, because it's merely a fictional accusation on your part.

Fury's reasons for withdrawing from that bout were legitimate. He wasn't scared to showboat and dominate Wladimir Klitschko in the Ukraine's own backyard, so he wouldn't have been scared of Ustinov.

FFS!

You do know that people thought Fury was a joke because he got dropped by Cunningham, right? If you believe that bs, you may as well believe Quillin's crap for ducking Korobov as well. Ustinov was looked at as pretty formidable since his only loss was to Pulev. It wasn't until he lost to Charr that he was looked at in bad light.

As I said, you've not been following boxing for long.

FFS, you didn't even know about him dropping out of the Ustinov fight, and you want to talk to me about anything!? What a joke you are.

Mexi-Box wrote: ↑17 Apr 2018, 04:56

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑17 Apr 2018, 04:52

Mexi-Box wrote: ↑17 Apr 2018, 04:47

Because it's the truth. You've obviously not been following boxing for very long. It wasn't a shameless duck or anything, but you could tell that Fury wasn't keen on fighting Ustinov on a short notice.

Stop with the "not been following boxing for long" bûllshît!

You made a claim that you cannot possibly substantiate, because it's merely a fictional accusation on your part.

Fury's reasons for withdrawing from that bout were legitimate. He wasn't scared to showboat and dominate Wladimir Klitschko in the Ukraine's own backyard, so he wouldn't have been scared of Ustinov.

FFS!

You do know that people thought Fury was a joke because he got dropped by Cunningham, right? If you believe that bs, you may as well believe Quillin's crap for ducking Korobov as well. Ustinov was looked at as pretty formidable since his only loss was to Pulev. It wasn't until he lost to Charr that he was looked at in bad light.

As I said, you've not been following boxing for long.

FFS, you didn't even know about him dropping out of the Ustinov fight, and you want to talk to me about anything!? What a joke you are.

I knew about Fury dropping out of the Ustinov fight, but I had to ask you why you believed that Tyson was scared to face the Russian.

That's why I asked: "What are you talking about? "

You're talking pure bũllshît, but I have to give you credit, because your trolling was pretty effective this time. You made me bite!

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑17 Apr 2018, 05:03

Mexi-Box wrote: ↑17 Apr 2018, 04:56

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑17 Apr 2018, 04:52
Stop with the "not been following boxing for long" bûllshît!

You made a claim that you cannot possibly substantiate, because it's merely a fictional accusation on your part.

Fury's reasons for withdrawing from that bout were legitimate. He wasn't scared to showboat and dominate Wladimir Klitschko in the Ukraine's own backyard, so he wouldn't have been scared of Ustinov.

FFS!

You do know that people thought Fury was a joke because he got dropped by Cunningham, right? If you believe that bs, you may as well believe Quillin's crap for ducking Korobov as well. Ustinov was looked at as pretty formidable since his only loss was to Pulev. It wasn't until he lost to Charr that he was looked at in bad light.

As I said, you've not been following boxing for long.

FFS, you didn't even know about him dropping out of the Ustinov fight, and you want to talk to me about anything!? What a joke you are.

I knew about Fury dropping out of the Ustinov fight, but I had to ask you why you believed that Tyson was scared to face the Russian.

That's why I asked: "What are you talking about? "

You're talking pure bũllshît, but I have to give you credit, because your trolling was pretty effective this time. You made me bite!

Okay, nice then. I made you bite because you were ignorant of the whole situation and are now being to stubborn to admit you were wrong. The Unenlightened One

Mexi-Box wrote: ↑17 Apr 2018, 05:09 Okay, nice then. I made you bite because you were ignorant of the whole situation and are now being to stubborn to admit you were wrong. The Unenlightened One

OK "Wise One"! Prove that Tyson Fury was scared of Alexander Ustinov?

Apparently, Sefer Seferi has just been installed by Sky Bet as the betting favourite to face Tyson Fury in his first comeback fight.

He’s 39 years of age and has only suffered a point’s defeat against Manuel Charr and was very fortunate to last the distance in that fight, because he took quite a beating. He’s the size of a cruiserweight though and has only competed in two legitimate heavyweight fights, where he weighed 216lbs and 212lbs.

He looked quite small in comparison to the 6' 3½" Manuel Charr and I guess he might be slightly shorter than six feet tall.

I really hope that the bookies get it wrong this time, because despite Seferi’s lack of defeats on his resume, he doesn’t deserve the right to share the ring with someone like Tyson Fury.

Breazele is fine, not too dangerous at all. He's Top 15, top 10 at a push but that is it... we know his level. In terms of boxing ability he has had struggles each time he himself has fought in the top 20.

Trinidad fought Mayorga after a 2 year layoff. Ricky Hatton fought a former world champion after a huge layoff also (and at a weight he was never right on).

We treat Tyson with kid gloves.... he says he has the skills - its not as Breazele is a top 5 opponent.

I doubt it will be anywhere near this level of risk. I don’t like Fury or his boring style; Let’s be realistic; Ustinov and Breazeale are durable and big. Breazeale is certainly out the question due his record and age.

Ustinov more likely but really doubtful. Briggs, IMO, is weaker out of the three but the most dangerous for the first four rounds.

Too much risk.

Think of Haye when he returned. Mark De Mori level then step up gradually.

I honestly think that people have a false picture of Fury. Although awkward and long, people forget that Wlad misfired and was uttterly woeful against him. He didn’t pull the trigger and seemed not present in the ring. You could argue that Fury confused him but I don’t buy that. Fury isn’t a big puncher, so it made no sense for Wlad not to let his hands go whatsoever. He clearly wasn’t right, seemed flat and I thought it was old Father Time, but the AJ fight proved that wasn’t the case.

Although I don’t like Fury, good to have him back in the mix and see what he comes back like.

If you look at BoxRec HW rankings from 70 downwards, you’ll probably find someone with a few losses on their record or a poor KO record that would fit the bill.