BoxRec

lazboy wrote: ↑29 Apr 2018, 21:42

Luis Fernando12 wrote: ↑29 Apr 2018, 18:37

gilgamesh wrote: ↑29 Apr 2018, 18:22 Povetkin fights at around 220 or 230 don't he? So it's more like 50 or 60 pounds lighter on average...Miller USUALLY isn't 300+

Miller obviously shows a high level of skill I don't think that can be denied when you watch him fight, his biggest drawback is the fact that he's f*cking fat, and will therefore never get the best out of his potential.

I'm not saying Miller is MORE skilled than Povetkin, but I think he may well be AS skilled as Povetkin or at least close to it. Povetkin has never exactly looked like the slickest fighter I've ever seen or anything, he's just a hard hitter, and he's disciplined enough to always show up at his best, and give a great effort.

The last few fights I've seen him in he seems to throw an awkward left hook that doesn't do much damage, and isn't overly effective. Don't know why he doesn't throw his right hand more as that's clearly his bomb, but I guess maybe all of the left hooks are just to kinda throw you off the scent of the right hand.

Miller displays skill though obviously. He just can't ever maximize on those skills because he's so goddamn fat. If he weren't skilled he wouldn't even be able to get away with being as fat as he is against the level he's already faced.



Also...For the record: I picked Povetkin by Decision in the poll.

Being skilled doesn't mean one has to be necessarily slick (in the stereotypical sense). It takes skills to do subtle / unnoticeable things, such as setting up the left hook which Povetkin set up to cleanly KO Duhaupas or Carlos Takam. The accuracy, timing and power was perfect. So was the set up! When was the last time you saw Miller setting up or landing such punches, especially on an opponent of such a caliber?

To claim 'he is just a hard hitter' is totally false and is a misrepresentation of how he boxes. In fact, I dare say he doesn't even hit that hard. Rather, his offensive skills are what make up for his lack of power.

I don't even see how Miller is as skilled as Povetkin. I'm sorry, but I'll have to respectfully disagree. Povetkin has Miller beat in far too many departments for my liking. Feinting, combination punching, punch technique / mechanics, punch selection, punch accuracy, punch timing, distance control and etc.

Miller's size is what allows him to be as successful. He literally eats punches to land his own punches. And his size allows him to take punches better. Povetkin is better at getting hit less, whilst still being able to land far better and more damaging punches. Tell me how exactly Miller is more skilled?

You're underrating him.
You need to understand his stye. Miller game is long. He wants to accumulate and wear you down over the course of the fight. He clearly isn't as powerful as Povetkin but doesn't try to be. If he was putting everything on his shots like Pov he would gas out hard. Having said that Povetkin does have the better punching technique and is no doubt a skilled heavyweight but these other areas you have listed..... Feinting, combination punching, punch selection, punch accuracy, punch timing, distance control and etc..... From what we saw last night....There's not a giant gap between them. And to say Miller literally eats punches to land his own is a false. He is not Dominic Breazeale.