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Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑16 May 2018, 12:48

mickey1975 wrote: ↑16 May 2018, 12:05 Hughie hammered what ggg and Lomachenko did!

Wonder what GGG-Brook would have done on channel 5..

I’m talking what they DID in America, on non ppv. You’re just being silly. What would Fury-AJ do on bbc1?

mickey1975 wrote: ↑16 May 2018, 12:56

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑16 May 2018, 12:48

mickey1975 wrote: ↑16 May 2018, 12:05 Hughie hammered what ggg and Lomachenko did!

Wonder what GGG-Brook would have done on channel 5..

I’m talking what they DID in America, on non ppv. You’re just being silly. What would Fury-AJ do on bbc1?

TBF, you have to subscribe to HBO, ESPN fair enough, it's like a free sports channel. I expected better..

Fury-AJ would do like 15 million on BBC! Maybe more

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑16 May 2018, 13:55

mickey1975 wrote: ↑16 May 2018, 12:56

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑16 May 2018, 12:48

Wonder what GGG-Brook would have done on channel 5..

I’m talking what they DID in America, on non ppv. You’re just being silly. What would Fury-AJ do on bbc1?

TBF, you have to subscribe to HBO, ESPN fair enough, it's like a free sports channel. I expected better..

Fury-AJ would do like 15 million on BBC! Maybe more

Shame it will never happen.

I don't believe the fight will nor will we get BBC boxing.

Update

* Hughie Fury vs. Sam Sexton - peak: 2.9 million (12th May on 5Spike/Channel 5)

1.1m on Channel 5 from 9pm < According to BARB

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑21 May 2018, 10:23 Update

* Hughie Fury vs. Sam Sexton - peak: 2.9 million (12th May on 5Spike/Channel 5)

1.1m on Channel 5 from 9pm < According to BARB

I remember someone above mentioned 2.9m figure, what it represents. I think I initially said it was peak viewership at 1 point on the program. But looking back, the article that released the 2.9m figure, and I believe Mich Hennessy said the same. They said the broadcast reached 2.9 million households. So I don't think it was at one time, there was 2.9 million. I think, throughout the whole broadcast on 5 Spike and channel 5, a total number of 2.9 million tuned in overall..

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑21 May 2018, 10:31

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑21 May 2018, 10:23 Update

* Hughie Fury vs. Sam Sexton - peak: 2.9 million (12th May on 5Spike/Channel 5)

1.1m on Channel 5 from 9pm < According to BARB

I remember someone above mentioned 2.9m figure, what it represents. I think I initially said it was peak viewership at 1 point on the program. But looking back, the article that released the 2.9m figure, and I believe Mich Hennessy said the same. They said the broadcast reached 2.9 million households. So I don't think it was at one time, there was 2.9 million. I think, throughout the whole broadcast on 5 Spike and channel 5, a total number of 2.9 million tuned in overall..

1.1m’s a good result. Anything over 1m is a good number for ch5.

I think Mick was getting creative with his 2.9m. It’s extremely unlikely a show peak is near 3 times that of the average.

RKO - I would guess Mick is adding the peak of the ch5 broadcast to the peak of the Spike broadcast which would mean he’s double counting viewers who watched both shows.

Anyway regardless it’s a great result and we’ll up any boxing on ch5 in the last 12 months.

maverick23 wrote: ↑21 May 2018, 14:27 RKO - I would guess Mick is adding the peak of the ch5 broadcast to the peak of the Spike broadcast which would mean he’s double counting viewers who watched both shows.

Anyway regardless it’s a great result and we’ll up any boxing on ch5 in the last 12 months.

According to BARB, the 5 Spike likely averaged less than 100k.

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑21 May 2018, 14:59

maverick23 wrote: ↑21 May 2018, 14:27 RKO - I would guess Mick is adding the peak of the ch5 broadcast to the peak of the Spike broadcast which would mean he’s double counting viewers who watched both shows.

Anyway regardless it’s a great result and we’ll up any boxing on ch5 in the last 12 months.

According to BARB, the 5 Spike likely averaged less than 100k.

The Hennessy number is an even bigger mystery then!

maverick23 wrote: ↑21 May 2018, 16:46

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑21 May 2018, 14:59

maverick23 wrote: ↑21 May 2018, 14:27 RKO - I would guess Mick is adding the peak of the ch5 broadcast to the peak of the Spike broadcast which would mean he’s double counting viewers who watched both shows.

Anyway regardless it’s a great result and we’ll up any boxing on ch5 in the last 12 months.

According to BARB, the 5 Spike likely averaged less than 100k.

The Hennessy number is an even bigger mystery then!

It's what promoters do with PPV numbers, inflate them. Mick has done the same here.

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑21 May 2018, 17:06

maverick23 wrote: ↑21 May 2018, 16:46

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑21 May 2018, 14:59

According to BARB, the 5 Spike likely averaged less than 100k.

The Hennessy number is an even bigger mystery then!

It's what promoters do with PPV numbers, inflate them. Mick has done the same here.

I’m far more inclined to believe a PPV figure rather than a simple viewership number. You can’t really interpret a PPV number (it is what it is - no peak, just the volume of people who bought it) like you can with a viewer number.

If Eddie said a PPV show did 1m buys whilst in reality it did 700k, it would be questioned at Sky and it wouldn’t be well received. There will certainly be rounding up I.e. if it did 920k then he’d probably round up to 1m.

mickey1975 wrote: ↑16 May 2018, 12:56

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑16 May 2018, 12:48

mickey1975 wrote: ↑16 May 2018, 12:05 Hughie hammered what ggg and Lomachenko did!

Wonder what GGG-Brook would have done on channel 5..

I’m talking what they DID in America, on non ppv. You’re just being silly. What would Fury-AJ do on bbc1?

Golovkin averaged 1.2m on a subscription channel, Loma did 1m on a cable channel (okay, ESPN is usually bundled, but you still need to pay for cable) and Hughie averaged 1.1m on a free-to-air channel.

The numbers in this thread suggest that you can multiply subscription channel numbers by 4-5 if a similar fight took place on free-to-air, so let's not get carried away. They're good numbers though, especially when you consider that the US has five times the population size.

Aunty Beeb is never going to stump up for the huge fights again, unfortunately. Maybe ITV? It would surely be an advertising salesperson's wet dream!

Update for 2017

13 May - Josh Warrington vs. Kiko Martinez - 53,000 (BT Sport)

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑22 May 2018, 07:17 Update for 2017

13 May - Josh Warrington vs. Kiko Martinez - 53,000 (BT Sport)

If that's correct it's deeply disappointing. An evenly matched war between two domestic fighters for a world title getting around a seventh of the viewing figures for Khan against a no hoper.

dirk2686 wrote: ↑22 May 2018, 08:10

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑22 May 2018, 07:17 Update for 2017

13 May - Josh Warrington vs. Kiko Martinez - 53,000 (BT Sport)

If that's correct it's deeply disappointing. An evenly matched war between two domestic fighters for a world title getting around a seventh of the viewing figures for Khan against a no hoper.

Hopefully the figures for Selby-Warrington are recorded by BARB. I'll post them soon.

dirk2686 wrote: ↑22 May 2018, 08:10

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑22 May 2018, 07:17 Update for 2017

13 May - Josh Warrington vs. Kiko Martinez - 53,000 (BT Sport)

If that's correct it's deeply disappointing. An evenly matched war between two domestic fighters for a world title getting around a seventh of the viewing figures for Khan against a no hoper.

Josh Warrington v Hisashi Amagasa averaged 126,000 on Sky Sports 1 on 16 April 2016. He was doing decent figures for Matchroom

against Dennis Tubieron he averaged 65,000 on Sky Sports 2 on 11 April 2015.. So basically in a year, his average viewership doubled on Sky.

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑22 May 2018, 08:45

dirk2686 wrote: ↑22 May 2018, 08:10

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑22 May 2018, 07:17 Update for 2017

13 May - Josh Warrington vs. Kiko Martinez - 53,000 (BT Sport)

If that's correct it's deeply disappointing. An evenly matched war between two domestic fighters for a world title getting around a seventh of the viewing figures for Khan against a no hoper.

Hopefully the figures for Selby-Warrington are recorded by BARB. I'll post them soon.

That's my mistake anyway - I saw Warrington and an update this week and immediately assumed it was the Selby fight. Still poor though.

According to BARB, Lee Selby vs. Josh Warrington is unavailable.


BT Sports 1, 2 and 3 it states no data. Piss take. It's like every other week, they'll post their numbers, when it's a fight night, they never give us any numbers.

I'll keep an eye out in case it changes.

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑29 May 2018, 06:48 According to BARB, Lee Selby vs. Josh Warrington is unavailable.


BT Sports 1, 2 and 3 it states no data. Piss take. It's like every other week, they'll post their numbers, when it's a fight night, they never give us any numbers.

I'll keep an eye out in case it changes.

A lot watch BT on EE phones, pubs, etc. Millions without bt found a way to watch the champions league final.

mickey1975 wrote: ↑29 May 2018, 09:20

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑29 May 2018, 06:48 According to BARB, Lee Selby vs. Josh Warrington is unavailable.


BT Sports 1, 2 and 3 it states no data. Piss take. It's like every other week, they'll post their numbers, when it's a fight night, they never give us any numbers.

I'll keep an eye out in case it changes.

A lot watch BT on EE phones, pubs, etc. Millions without bt found a way to watch the champions league final.

Because the Champs final was also free on YouTube.

mickey1975 wrote: ↑29 May 2018, 09:20

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑29 May 2018, 06:48 According to BARB, Lee Selby vs. Josh Warrington is unavailable.


BT Sports 1, 2 and 3 it states no data. Piss take. It's like every other week, they'll post their numbers, when it's a fight night, they never give us any numbers.

I'll keep an eye out in case it changes.

A lot watch BT on EE phones, pubs, etc. Millions without bt found a way to watch the champions league final.

Champions League final was free.

BT's figures just don't add up. Supposedly available in far more homes than Sky but risible viewing numbers. I refuse to believe hundreds of thousands are paying for BT sport in some way only to ignore what it's showing.

dirk2686 wrote: ↑29 May 2018, 11:42

mickey1975 wrote: ↑29 May 2018, 09:20

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑29 May 2018, 06:48 According to BARB, Lee Selby vs. Josh Warrington is unavailable.


BT Sports 1, 2 and 3 it states no data. Piss take. It's like every other week, they'll post their numbers, when it's a fight night, they never give us any numbers.

I'll keep an eye out in case it changes.

A lot watch BT on EE phones, pubs, etc. Millions without bt found a way to watch the champions league final.

Champions League final was free.

BT's figures just don't add up. Supposedly available in far more homes than Sky but risible viewing numbers. I refuse to believe hundreds of thousands are paying for BT sport in some way only to ignore what it's showing.

A lot of BT Broadband users get free sport and EE users. Millions.

mickey1975 wrote: ↑29 May 2018, 11:48

dirk2686 wrote: ↑29 May 2018, 11:42

mickey1975 wrote: ↑29 May 2018, 09:20

A lot watch BT on EE phones, pubs, etc. Millions without bt found a way to watch the champions league final.

Champions League final was free.

BT's figures just don't add up. Supposedly available in far more homes than Sky but risible viewing numbers. I refuse to believe hundreds of thousands are paying for BT sport in some way only to ignore what it's showing.

A lot of BT Broadband users get free sport and EE users. Millions.

As I said - numbers don't add up. Millions of potential viewers and viewing figures which are routinely pathetic. Compare how many are watching Khan against a no hoper than Saunders.

mickey1975 wrote: ↑29 May 2018, 09:20

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑29 May 2018, 06:48 According to BARB, Lee Selby vs. Josh Warrington is unavailable.


BT Sports 1, 2 and 3 it states no data. Piss take. It's like every other week, they'll post their numbers, when it's a fight night, they never give us any numbers.

I'll keep an eye out in case it changes.

A lot watch BT on EE phones, pubs, etc. Millions without bt found a way to watch the champions league final.

It’s probably very similar for Sky. I would expect just as many pubs have Sky we have BT (not counting box office as pubs have to pay as massive premium to show them). Also Now TV.

maverick23 wrote: ↑29 May 2018, 16:00

mickey1975 wrote: ↑29 May 2018, 09:20

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑29 May 2018, 06:48 According to BARB, Lee Selby vs. Josh Warrington is unavailable.


BT Sports 1, 2 and 3 it states no data. Piss take. It's like every other week, they'll post their numbers, when it's a fight night, they never give us any numbers.

I'll keep an eye out in case it changes.

A lot watch BT on EE phones, pubs, etc. Millions without bt found a way to watch the champions league final.

It’s probably very similar for Sky. I would expect just as many pubs have Sky we have BT (not counting box office as pubs have to pay as massive premium to show them). Also Now TV.

Yeh, Now TV is huge for sky sports.