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DA1 wrote: ↑11 May 2018, 04:08

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑11 May 2018, 03:38 I am not pretending to be able to read minds.

I have performed extensive research and then formulated an opinion by drawing a conclusion that was based on the readily available evidence.

I think that there's reason for HBO's execs to believe (behind closed doors) that the ratings are unimpressive and may even be highly disappointed about the viewership figures of Golovkin's most recent bout.

I have supported my stance by quoting multiple facts and no one has made any attempt to challenge each and every one of them in a single post.

Instead, people are telling me I'm "wrong", without really explaining the reason why.

People are even accusing me of being a "troll", simply because I'm quoting facts that they don't like.

GGG is a great fighter and I understand the reason why people like him, but he can't walk on water and circumstances will occasionally go against him. The people who manages his career are not immune from receiving criticism.

The budget for that card was $1 million. Your opinions have now lost ALL credibility, if all that "research" and "formulation" brought you this conclusion that they're disappointed at the numbers.

$1 million production bringing in a 1.3 mill rating (on first broadcast alone), that too on a premium network, is crazy IMPRESSIVE.

Have you changed your stance, because you previously claimed that the viewing figures were impressive, due to the numbers being greater than events covered by other networks, but now you’re claiming the reason why the ratings aren’t as good as they could have been, given the prime-time Cinco de Mayo fight date, was due to the small budget that GGG Promotions had?

It seems that you’re try to change the direction of our argument, onto more solid ground, because you feel undermined and now lack the confidence to stand by your original beliefs.

Part of the reason why the budget was reduced was due to the manner in which GGG Promotions’ conducted, with procrastination, their search for an opponent.

At least nine weeks had transpired between the date of the announcement of Canelo testing positive for a banned substance and the Cinco de Mayo fight date. Vanes Martirosyan was only announced as GGG’s opponent two weeks prior to the 5th May.

GGG Promotions’ didn’t implement a back-up plan, by having a decent opponent on stand-by, and we’ve regularly seen other promoters ensure one is in place for the PPV events they promote.

So if you’re claiming that you found HBO’s ratings "impressive", in the context of the poor quality of opponent that GGG fought, then I cannot disagree with this. That's your opinion and one that I can show empathy for.

If you’re claiming that HBO’s figures are impressive for a pound-for-pound fighter headlining an event on Cinco de Mayo, then I wholeheartedly disagree with this stance, since the ratings were poor in the context of historical norms and statistical expectations. The numerous facts that I’ve already supplied provide a deeply compelling argument that makes it extremely challenging to refute this assertion.

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑11 May 2018, 04:34 Have you changed your stance, because you previously claimed that the viewing figures were impressive, due to the numbers being greater than events covered by other networks, but now you’re claiming the reason why the ratings aren’t as good as they could have been, given the prime-time Cinco de Mayo fight date, was due to the small budget that GGG Promotions had?

It seems that you’re try to change the direction of our argument, onto more solid ground, because you feel undermined and now lack the confidence to stand by your original beliefs.

Part of the reason why the budget was reduced was due to the manner in which GGG Promotions’ conducted, with procrastination, their search for an opponent.

At least nine weeks had transpired between the date of the announcement of Canelo testing positive for a banned substance and the Cinco de Mayo fight date. Vanes Martirosyan was only announced as GGG’s opponent two weeks prior to the 5th May.

GGG Promotions’ didn’t implement a back-up plan, by having a decent opponent on stand-by, and we’ve regularly seen other promoters ensure one is in place for the PPV events they promote.

So if you’re claiming that you found HBO’s ratings impressive, in the context of the poor quality of opponent that GGG fought, then I cannot disagree with this.

If you’re claiming that HBO’s figures are impressive for a pound-for-pound fighter headlining an event on Cinco de Mayo, then I wholeheartedly disagree with this stance, since the ratings were poor in the context of historical norms and statistical expectations.

What are you even talking about?

Its literally the highest rated fight this year. It is FACTUALLY impressive, more so when you factor in the budget.

If the budget was $5 million, I'd perhaps think that its a mediocre rating (although it is still the HIGHEST of the year) but as it stands it is very impressive.

DA1 wrote: ↑11 May 2018, 04:44

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑11 May 2018, 04:34 Have you changed your stance, because you previously claimed that the viewing figures were impressive, due to the numbers being greater than events covered by other networks, but now you’re claiming the reason why the ratings aren’t as good as they could have been, given the prime-time Cinco de Mayo fight date, was due to the small budget that GGG Promotions had?

It seems that you’re try to change the direction of our argument, onto more solid ground, because you feel undermined and now lack the confidence to stand by your original beliefs.

Part of the reason why the budget was reduced was due to the manner in which GGG Promotions’ conducted, with procrastination, their search for an opponent.

At least nine weeks had transpired between the date of the announcement of Canelo testing positive for a banned substance and the Cinco de Mayo fight date. Vanes Martirosyan was only announced as GGG’s opponent two weeks prior to the 5th May.

GGG Promotions’ didn’t implement a back-up plan, by having a decent opponent on stand-by, and we’ve regularly seen other promoters ensure one is in place for the PPV events they promote.

So if you’re claiming that you found HBO’s ratings impressive, in the context of the poor quality of opponent that GGG fought, then I cannot disagree with this.

If you’re claiming that HBO’s figures are impressive for a pound-for-pound fighter headlining an event on Cinco de Mayo, then I wholeheartedly disagree with this stance, since the ratings were poor in the context of historical norms and statistical expectations.

What are you even talking about?

If you are trying to persuade me to change my opinion or encourage me to provide a counter argument, you need to show me the courtesy of reading my words.

Don’t ask questions that I’ve already answered!

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑11 May 2018, 04:49
If you are trying to persuade me to change my opinion or encourage me to provide a counter argument, you need to show me the courtesy of reading my words.

Don’t ask questions that I’ve already answered!

You literally just ignored and blocked out my immediate next 2 lines. You are lost.

DA1 wrote: ↑11 May 2018, 04:51

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑11 May 2018, 04:49
If you are trying to persuade me to change my opinion or encourage me to provide a counter argument, you need to show me the courtesy of reading my words.

Don’t ask questions that I’ve already answered!

You literally just ignored and blocked out my immediate next 2 lines. You are lost.

I'd already addressed those points. I won't keep repeating myself, since it seemed you were asking questions that I had already answered.

The fact that you're asking these sort of questions proves that you haven't made the effort to read my words.

DA1 wrote: ↑11 May 2018, 04:51

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑11 May 2018, 04:49
If you are trying to persuade me to change my opinion or encourage me to provide a counter argument, you need to show me the courtesy of reading my words.

Don’t ask questions that I’ve already answered!

You literally just ignored and blocked out my immediate next 2 lines. You are lost.

DA1, you seem to be new here. Please be advised that EO already answered all questions on all subjects, so there is no point arguing with that brick.