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Re: AJ refuses to fight outside UK---turns down $50 million guarantee with no cap !
Posted: 11 May 2018, 13:26
by oogiebe
greg wrote: ↑11 May 2018, 13:26
..I can certainly relate as to why the Brit is in no hurry to cross the pond and to get screwed outside HIS backyard..
They should fight in Switzerland, just saying...
Re: AJ refuses to fight outside UK---turns down $50 million guarantee with no cap !
Posted: 11 May 2018, 13:29
by gilgamesh
Considering that he makes 20 Million plus per fight fighting in the U.K., and Wilder has yet to make above 2.5 or 3 Mil or something like that...why would he fight outside of the U.K?
Hell if I were Wilder I'd be eager to be wrapping up my association with Haymon, and get my ass over to the U.K. to get in on them sweet 8 figure paydays.
Re: AJ refuses to fight outside UK---turns down $50 million guarantee with no cap !
Posted: 11 May 2018, 13:51
by boxing_rocks
There was no real guarantee, just publicity stunt.
Re: AJ refuses to fight outside UK---turns down $50 million guarantee with no cap !
Posted: 11 May 2018, 14:21
by candyslim
I'm sure AJ wants to fight in the US to buid his profile and his legacy, but he's in no hurry. It would certainly make sense to fight someone a little less dangerous than Deontay as a first excursion.
Hearn said AJ was reluctant to deprive his loyal supporters the chance to be there for his biggest fight, and that might be a genuine concern for him, or it it might be a load of old flannel, I guess how you take that depends on whether you believe his nice guy persona is fabricated or real.
AJ is making so much money that the extra he can make in Vegas probably is less important to him than facing his greatest challenge this side of the horizon in the place where he feels most comfortable boxing.
Besides Wilder presents a daunting enough challenge for any heavyweight. If you were Joshua would you want to fight in Vegas with all the controversy associated with the place?
Re: AJ refuses to fight outside UK---turns down $50 million guarantee with no cap !
Posted: 11 May 2018, 14:23
by oogiebe
candyslim wrote: ↑11 May 2018, 14:21
I'm sure AJ wants to fight in the US to buid his profile and his legacy, but he's in no hurry. It would certainly make sense to fight someone a little less dangerous than Deontay as a first excursion.
Hearn said AJ was reluctant to deprive his loyal supporters the chance to be there for his biggest fight, and that might be a genuine concern for him, or it it might be a load of old flannel, I guess how you take that depends on whether you believe his nice guy persona is fabricated or real.
AJ is making so much money that the extra he can make in Vegas probably is less important to him than facing his greatest challenge this side of the horizon in the place where he feels most comfortable boxing.
Besides Wilder presents a daunting enough challenge for any heavyweight. If you were Joshua would you want to fight in Vegas with all the controversy associated with the place?
All great points Slim. Can't argue.
Re: AJ refuses to fight outside UK---turns down $50 million guarantee with no cap !
Posted: 11 May 2018, 14:43
by candyslim
Thanks mate.
Re: AJ refuses to fight outside UK---turns down $50 million guarantee with no cap !
Posted: 11 May 2018, 14:45
by oogiebe
No problem Slim. (geez...well mannered posts...what in the world is going on!??!!)
Re: AJ refuses to fight outside UK---turns down $50 million guarantee with no cap !
Posted: 11 May 2018, 14:50
by candyslim
I save my broadsides for the a-holes Oogie. I'm usually very placid and respectful much like your goodself
![[icon_e_biggrin.gif] :D](./images/smilies/icon_e_biggrin.gif)
Re: AJ refuses to fight outside UK---turns down $50 million guarantee with no cap !
Posted: 11 May 2018, 14:54
by oogiebe
candyslim wrote: ↑11 May 2018, 14:50
I save my broadsides for the a-holes Oogie. I'm usually very placid and respectful much like your goodself
Very cool of you! I sometimes return fire and sometimes (I hope most) take the high road. (or the really 'high' road!)

Re: AJ refuses to fight outside UK---turns down $50 million guarantee with no cap !
Posted: 11 May 2018, 15:15
by jamesmcdonnell
oogiebe wrote: ↑11 May 2018, 14:54
candyslim wrote: ↑11 May 2018, 14:50
I save my broadsides for the a-holes Oogie. I'm usually very placid and respectful much like your goodself
Very cool of you! I sometimes return fire and sometimes (I hope most) take the high road. (or the really 'high' road!)
get lubed up and get a room you two....
Re: AJ refuses to fight outside UK---turns down $50 million guarantee with no cap !
Posted: 11 May 2018, 15:18
by oogiebe
jamesmcdonnell wrote: ↑11 May 2018, 15:15
oogiebe wrote: ↑11 May 2018, 14:54
candyslim wrote: ↑11 May 2018, 14:50
I save my broadsides for the a-holes Oogie. I'm usually very placid and respectful much like your goodself
Very cool of you! I sometimes return fire and sometimes (I hope most) take the high road. (or the really 'high' road!)
get lubed up and get a room you two....
LMFAO!!!!

Re: AJ refuses to fight outside UK---turns down $50 million guarantee with no cap !
Posted: 11 May 2018, 15:40
by candyslim
Hey I'm just being civil. What you're suggesting is way too friendly for my taste
![[icon_e_biggrin.gif] :D](./images/smilies/icon_e_biggrin.gif)
Re: AJ refuses to fight outside UK---turns down $50 million guarantee with no cap !
Posted: 11 May 2018, 15:52
by oogiebe
candyslim wrote: ↑11 May 2018, 15:40
Hey I'm just being civil. What you're suggesting is way too friendly for my taste
Seriously!
Re: AJ refuses to fight outside UK---turns down $50 million guarantee with no cap !
Posted: 11 May 2018, 21:04
by Best Coast
SenorPipino wrote: ↑11 May 2018, 09:03
What about all that talk a few months back about Joshua eager to come to USA and take on Big Baby at Barclay's?
Is that still on the table?.
Or is it just Wilder that Joshua doesn't want to fight in the states?
Or was it just Hearn blowing typical promoter hot air and there's never been any intention to remove Joshua from his native soil?
Great points and I cant argue with anything you say. I think AJ's less-than-impressive performance against Parker may have changed his mind about fighting away from home any time soon.
Re: AJ refuses to fight outside UK---turns down $50 million guarantee with no cap !
Posted: 11 May 2018, 21:20
by Mexi-Box
tiny_acres wrote: ↑11 May 2018, 08:53
jamesmcdonnell wrote: ↑11 May 2018, 08:43
It's really easy to make big sounding offers, but were there actual guarantees in place?
It appears from the statements from both Hearn and Joshua that they consider the offer very serious.
Hearn admits the money is in America
Joshua stated he's not selling his belts.
The offer as astronomical as it appears. Seems to be legit.
Now the ball is in team Joshua's court. They need to come back with a legit percentage offer to Wilder or they will look very bad in the eyes of the public.
When? The offer wasn't legit last I read.
Re: AJ refuses to fight outside UK---turns down $50 million guarantee with no cap !
Posted: 11 May 2018, 22:09
by DA1
I'm tired of all this nonsense between these two camps.
If AJ's side doesn't want or trust Wilder camp's shaky offer of $50 mill, the best option is to just announce another fight with someone else and ignore this fiasco. Keep it moving. Didn't Hearn say he wants an AJ-Miller fight in the US?
Re: AJ refuses to fight outside UK---turns down $50 million guarantee with no cap !
Posted: 12 May 2018, 00:05
by Ilya Muromets
All these US and UK preciouses only want to fight in their very own country with their very own bought and paid for refs and judges and drug testers/fixers and cheering section!
Re: AJ refuses to fight outside UK---turns down $50 million guarantee with no cap !
Posted: 12 May 2018, 01:03
by dickbelden
Re: AJ refuses to fight outside UK---turns down $50 million guarantee with no cap !
Posted: 12 May 2018, 09:46
by oogiebe
DA1 wrote: ↑11 May 2018, 22:09
I'm tired of all this nonsense between these two camps.
If AJ's side doesn't want or trust Wilder camp's shaky offer of $50 mill, the best option is to just announce another fight with someone else and ignore this fiasco. Keep it moving. Didn't Hearn say he wants an AJ-Miller fight in the US?
THAT is most agreeable. I try not to pay any mind to the ramblings of promoters/managers/fighters unless the fight is made.
Re: AJ refuses to fight outside UK---turns down $50 million guarantee with no cap !
Posted: 12 May 2018, 16:19
by Ads_
AJ v Wilder - September - Wembley Stadium. That’s my bet anyway.
Re: AJ refuses to fight outside UK---turns down $50 million guarantee with no cap !
Posted: 12 May 2018, 16:23
by Mexi-Box
Re: AJ refuses to fight outside UK---turns down $50 million guarantee with no cap !
Posted: 12 May 2018, 19:56
by actjac
Boxing is all about the money. . . . .No one in the world would turn down $50 million just to make another appearance in front of his home fans,. . . .Geez, go get the money, win the fight and then go back to your adoring fans.
Re: AJ refuses to fight outside UK---turns down $50 million guarantee with no cap !
Posted: 12 May 2018, 21:06
by oogiebe
actjac wrote: ↑12 May 2018, 19:56
Boxing is all about the money. . . . .No one in the world would turn down $50 million just to make another appearance in front of his home fans,. . . .Geez, go get the money, win the fight and then go back to your adoring fans.
I know I would!!!!

Re: AJ refuses to fight outside UK---turns down $50 million guarantee with no cap !
Posted: 12 May 2018, 22:27
by coneye
oogiebe wrote: ↑12 May 2018, 21:06
actjac wrote: ↑12 May 2018, 19:56
Boxing is all about the money. . . . .No one in the world would turn down $50 million just to make another appearance in front of his home fans,. . . .Geez, go get the money, win the fight and then go back to your adoring fans.
I know I would!!!!
AJ can make 20 mill fighting his mom . in the UK , if he gets screwed in Vegas which is a BIG POSSIBILITY , then his earnings go down , . He has that much money the extra 20-30 mill he makes is not has important has his home town advantage and , the endless 20 mill paydays he will still recieve in the UK ,, Makes perfect sence to insist on the Wilder fight at Wembley then go fight Miller in the states and build his profile .
And thats always assuming the money is there , after all if they have that kind of money , why is Wilder fighting for 2 milliion a fight , It was a stupid offer , sign by monday without seeing a contract or the money , Publicity stunt
Re: AJ refuses to fight outside UK---turns down $50 million guarantee with no cap !
Posted: 12 May 2018, 22:28
by oogiebe
coneye wrote: ↑12 May 2018, 22:27
oogiebe wrote: ↑12 May 2018, 21:06
actjac wrote: ↑12 May 2018, 19:56
Boxing is all about the money. . . . .No one in the world would turn down $50 million just to make another appearance in front of his home fans,. . . .Geez, go get the money, win the fight and then go back to your adoring fans.
I know I would!!!!
AJ can make 20 mill fighting his mom . in the UK , if he gets screwed in Vegas which is a BIG POSSIBILITY , then his earnings go down , . He has that much money the extra 20-30 mill he makes is not has important has his home town advantage and , the endless 20 mill paydays he will still recieve in the UK ,, Makes perfect sence to insist on the Wilder fight at Wembley then go fight Miller in the states and build his profile .
And thats always assuming the money is there , after all if they have that kind of money , why is Wilder fighting for 2 milliion a fight , It was a stupid offer , sign by monday without seeing a contract or the money , Publicity stunt
If it were all about the money I'd agree, but greatness requires risk. Pride calls for this fight, or at least it should, no matter the location. If AJ wants to be the best, he needs to make this fight.