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Mimmy wrote: ↑31 May 2018, 13:12

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑31 May 2018, 12:41

Mimmy wrote: ↑31 May 2018, 11:03

I wonder why Team fury dont think that way. Why not face Joyce instead of Seferi? Would make 'the world' sit up with excitement if that happened, Fury knocking him out with ease.

It wont happen though will it? Even Hughie has said he wont fight him either.

David Haye won't attempt to make a fight between Joyce and Tyson Fury, so you've raised a moot point.

If Fury fancied his chances, even knowing a fight wouldnt be made he would be shouting his mouth off, Christ hes shouted it off about almost everyone else.

David Haye wouldn't allow Joe Joyce to risk getting demolished unless his charge was being paid millions to lose to Tyson Fury.

There is no desire from fight fans/media, no financial incentive nor any prestige for Tyson Fury to gain a victory over a crude novice like Joe Joyce.

The situation might change in a year or so, but facing Joe Joyce isn't on any world-rated fighters' radar at this moment in time, especially not the likes of the big three (i.e. Joshua, Wilder and Fury).

Simply put: Joe Joyce isn't the heavyweight equivalent of Vasyl Lomachenko.

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑31 May 2018, 18:52

Mimmy wrote: ↑31 May 2018, 13:12

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑31 May 2018, 12:41
David Haye won't attempt to make a fight between Joyce and Tyson Fury, so you've raised a moot point.

If Fury fancied his chances, even knowing a fight wouldnt be made he would be shouting his mouth off, Christ hes shouted it off about almost everyone else.

David Haye wouldn't allow Joe Joyce to risk getting demolished unless his charge was being paid millions to lose to Tyson Fury.

There is no desire from fight fans/media, no financial incentive nor any prestige for Tyson Fury to gain a victory over a crude novice like Joe Joyce.

The situation might change in a year or so, but facing Joe Joyce isn't on any world-rated fighters' radar at this moment in time, especially not the likes of the big three (i.e. Joshua, Wilder and Fury).

Simply put: Joe Joyce isn't the heavyweight equivalent of Vasyl Lomachenko.

Joyce went over and sparred the Fury's I read an interview where he said that. He was complimentary about them both. The fact that they've openly swerved him as an opponent makes me think they don't see him as a walkover. Dave Allen, shit as he is, talked about sparring Joyce, Dubois and Gorman and said that out of the three Joyce would win right now, but the others have a chance to improve whereas Joyce doesn't.

There is no desire from fight fans/media, little financial incentive and zero prestige for Tyson's current opponent, nor any of the ones he seems to be planning on fighting.

I don't really understand your point.

The victory for Fury here is successfully getting the weight off and making it through a training camp and first fight back without getting injured. He abused his body massively so if he can still function effectively as an elite athlete then the opposition can be stepped up for this fight.

I reckon he’ll fight someone on the level of Johann Duhapaus or Erkan Teper next...

It'll end up being Bellew at some point. Maybe not the next one but the one after that. The hype has already started. After two absolute no-hopers, Fury vs Bellew is going to look positively legit.

clopixolacuphase wrote: ↑01 Jun 2018, 12:28

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑31 May 2018, 18:52

Mimmy wrote: ↑31 May 2018, 13:12

If Fury fancied his chances, even knowing a fight wouldnt be made he would be shouting his mouth off, Christ hes shouted it off about almost everyone else.

David Haye wouldn't allow Joe Joyce to risk getting demolished unless his charge was being paid millions to lose to Tyson Fury.

There is no desire from fight fans/media, no financial incentive nor any prestige for Tyson Fury to gain a victory over a crude novice like Joe Joyce.

The situation might change in a year or so, but facing Joe Joyce isn't on any world-rated fighters' radar at this moment in time, especially not the likes of the big three (i.e. Joshua, Wilder and Fury).

Simply put: Joe Joyce isn't the heavyweight equivalent of Vasyl Lomachenko.

Joyce went over and sparred the Fury's I read an interview where he said that. He was complimentary about them both. The fact that they've openly swerved him as an opponent makes me think they don't see him as a walkover. Dave Allen, poo as he is, talked about sparring Joyce, Dubois and Gorman and said that out of the three Joyce would win right now, but the others have a chance to improve whereas Joyce doesn't.

There is no desire from fight fans/media, little financial incentive and zero prestige for Tyson's current opponent, nor any of the ones he seems to be planning on fighting.

I don't really understand your point.

The original point I made was in reaction to those that honestly believed that Tyson Fury was somehow "ducking" Joe Joyce for fear of getting his àss whooped, whereas I believe the Gypsy King has no compelling need to even consider facing the former Olympian just yet.

I feel that Joe Joyce is perhaps overrated by many people that frequent this forum. He's getting fast-tracked because of his age, not because of his talent... and he looked very crude and clumsy during his most recent outing.

There's no reason, at this point in time, for any of the heavyweight division's top dogs to fear facing Joyce. They might not want to share the ring with him just yet, because they ain't getting paid, but there's no other reason for them to "duck" him.

People accuse fighters of "ducking" when they clearly don't know what they're talking about, since a lucrative offer has to have been made by the better boxer and then subsequently rejected by the so-called coward to justify such an accusation, which clearly doesn't apply to the Fury-Joyce situation.

As it goes along with Fury it looks like a slow road.