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mickey1975 wrote: ↑06 Jun 2018, 06:43

Coco wrote: ↑06 Jun 2018, 06:39 Do you think it would be worth the BBBoC looking again at who they license.
Surely some of this sort of violence will continue to spill over onto shows.

What’s it got to do with them?

Stuarty wrote: ↑06 Jun 2018, 06:47

Coco wrote: ↑06 Jun 2018, 06:39 Do you think it would be worth the BBBoC looking again at who they license.
Surely some of this sort of violence will continue to spill over onto shows.

True mate. It's already spilled over in to a club and weigh in with scores of innocent bystanders etc... You'd think it would only be a matter of time at this rate.

Macklin fronts MTK though so how easy would it be to prove their links to organised crime etc...? Are the money men involved just in the background or are they hands on? I'm not sure how it all works tbh...

thepocketrocket wrote: ↑06 Jun 2018, 07:57 Those who invited MTK into the boxing world need to have a long look in the mirror.

TheLeprechaun wrote: ↑06 Jun 2018, 07:50

Stuarty wrote: ↑06 Jun 2018, 06:47

Coco wrote: ↑06 Jun 2018, 06:39 Do you think it would be worth the BBBoC looking again at who they license.
Surely some of this sort of violence will continue to spill over onto shows.

True mate. It's already spilled over in to a club and weigh in with scores of innocent bystanders etc... You'd think it would only be a matter of time at this rate.

Macklin fronts MTK though so how easy would it be to prove their links to organised crime etc...? Are the money men involved just in the background or are they hands on? I'm not sure how it all works tbh...

Nobody wants to see innocents getting shot. If it was the gang on gang violence then that's understandable but some poor lad or girl or possibly even a innocent kid getting a bullet is just too much. But what can be done

TheLeprechaun wrote: ↑06 Jun 2018, 08:55

thepocketrocket wrote: ↑06 Jun 2018, 07:57 Those who invited MTK into the boxing world need to have a long look in the mirror.

You are talking about macklin?

thepocketrocket wrote: ↑06 Jun 2018, 10:17

TheLeprechaun wrote: ↑06 Jun 2018, 08:55

thepocketrocket wrote: ↑06 Jun 2018, 07:57 Those who invited MTK into the boxing world need to have a long look in the mirror.

You are talking about macklin?

Yep, and anyone who thinks that getting into bed with the Kinahan's and goes on on social media about what legends MTK are is OK.

thepocketrocket wrote: ↑06 Jun 2018, 10:17

TheLeprechaun wrote: ↑06 Jun 2018, 08:55

thepocketrocket wrote: ↑06 Jun 2018, 07:57 Those who invited MTK into the boxing world need to have a long look in the mirror.

You are talking about macklin?

Yep, and anyone who thinks that getting into bed with the Kinahan's and goes on on social media about what legends MTK are is OK.

Sklar wrote: ↑06 Jun 2018, 13:06 Here's a question for the lawyers.

Hypothetical example...

A criminal organisation is shown to have laundered money through boxing shows, gyms and similar and a repossession order is enforced, would boxers who were paid with that money have to repay it even if that was their only link to criminality?

Stuarty wrote: ↑06 Jun 2018, 13:23

Sklar wrote: ↑06 Jun 2018, 13:06 Here's a question for the lawyers.

Hypothetical example...

A criminal organisation is shown to have laundered money through boxing shows, gyms and similar and a repossession order is enforced, would boxers who were paid with that money have to repay it even if that was their only link to criminality?

Wouldn't have thought so mate. Gangsters over my way all own car washes, laundrettes, barbers, scrap yards etc etc... The law dont chase their employees for the dough. 9 times out of 10 when a criminal confiscation order is enforced they only manage to get a small fraction from the person in question. ive never known any employees to get hassled for money nor should they.

Maybe boxing is different but I doubt it....

Sklar wrote: ↑06 Jun 2018, 13:31

Stuarty wrote: ↑06 Jun 2018, 13:23

Sklar wrote: ↑06 Jun 2018, 13:06 Here's a question for the lawyers.

Hypothetical example...

A criminal organisation is shown to have laundered money through boxing shows, gyms and similar and a repossession order is enforced, would boxers who were paid with that money have to repay it even if that was their only link to criminality?

Wouldn't have thought so mate. Gangsters over my way all own car washes, laundrettes, barbers, scrap yards etc etc... The law dont chase their employees for the dough. 9 times out of 10 when a criminal confiscation order is enforced they only manage to get a small fraction from the person in question. ive never known any employees to get hassled for money nor should they.

Maybe boxing is different but I doubt it....

The key words in the Proceeds of Crime Act relating to money laundering and my example are "knows or suspects". i.e. if it can be shown that the alleged offender knows or suspects that the criminal property e.g. money he has in his possession is laundered money, he would likely be ordered to put his hand in his pocket.

rio wrote: ↑06 Jun 2018, 12:26

thepocketrocket wrote: ↑06 Jun 2018, 10:17

TheLeprechaun wrote: ↑06 Jun 2018, 08:55

You are talking about macklin?

Yep, and anyone who thinks that getting into bed with the Kinahan's and goes on on social media about what legends MTK are is OK.

MTK claim Kinahan has nothing to do with them anymore. They relocate there HQ to Dubai.......which is where Kinahan lives!

dohboy wrote: ↑07 Jun 2018, 07:03 Very strange that there hasn't been a statement from MTK or even an acknowledgement that the coach of 4 of their fighters was shot. And it appears to have been ignored by MTK boxers, some of them who would have been on Ireland teams with Taylor involved as a coach

Floyd the snake wrote: ↑07 Jun 2018, 13:39 Have MTK ever published any business accounts ? Surely they have to release report & accounts by law , what is there income ? Merchandising , percentage of purses ? They're out goings must be huge with the amount if shows they're putting on at big losses , interesting to see things in black & white .

Floyd the snake wrote: ↑07 Jun 2018, 13:39 they're putting on at big losses

Floyd the snake wrote: ↑08 Jun 2018, 03:50 Have u seen the venues there using ? It's blatent what's happening but nothing seems to be done about it , I can't get away with it my accounts have to be transparent year on year , no hiding place for us .