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SenorPipino wrote: ↑13 Jun 2018, 10:20 The clock is ticking......

Will Golovkin accept the generous B side purse that GBP is willing to allow?

Or will Golovkin walk away, lose his title to Charlo in the fall for relative peanuts, and become a cautionary story for future boxers not to let stubborn ego along with foolish pride get in the way of sound business decisions?

The clock is ticking....

apollo creed wrote: ↑13 Jun 2018, 12:04

SenorPipino wrote: ↑13 Jun 2018, 10:20 The clock is ticking......

Will Golovkin accept the generous B side purse that GBP is willing to allow?

Or will Golovkin walk away, lose his title to Charlo in the fall for relative peanuts, and become a cautionary story for future boxers not to let stubborn ego along with foolish pride get in the way of sound business decisions?

The clock is ticking....

I think he'd accept it.

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑13 Jun 2018, 03:49

Heretic wrote: ↑13 Jun 2018, 03:29

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑12 Jun 2018, 19:16 GGG would deserve to be ridiculed and aggressively lambasted if he didn't accept the revised terms .

I disagree.

There are more deserving contenders out there.

GGG has been trough lot of bullshit because of Canelo. If he feels like doing the rematch is not worth the cash then who can say hes wrong?

There is other things than money... GGG has made enough to last him a life time if hes wise with the money. Does he really need every penny he can get? It is up to him what he values more.

I will only aggressively lambaste your stupid posts

Golovkin agreed to take 30% for his first bout against Canelo.

GBP subsequently offered GGG 35% for the rematch.

Gennady declined this offer and instead demanded 50%, which resulted in a breakdown in negotiations.

Oscar De La Hoya then stated that Canelo would seek to face other opponents instead, such as the likes of Danny Jacobs and Billy Joe Saunders.

And shortly after GBP issued their threat, Tom Loeffler issued a statement, which declared that GGG was willing to compromise, by facing Canelo for 45% instead.

Oscar De La Hoya then issued a new offer to GGG, with the new purse split being 42½ per cent.

Tom Loeffler has already confirmed that Gennady Golovkin will have the final say as to whether or not Team GGG accepts De La Hoya’s latest offer, which I strongly suspect is the highest figure that GBP are willing to go to.

GGG will receive a massively improved purse split for the Canelo rematch in comparison to the figure he earned for the first bout… and it’s incredibly close to the percentage split that he publicly stated that he’d be willing to accept.

Golovkin is also incapable of receiving a purse amount that is remotely close to the one currently being offered by GBP if he chose to fight someone other than Canelo.

Therefore, GGG would indeed deserve to be ridiculed and aggressively lambasted if he didn't accept GBP’s revised terms.

GGG Promotions have already fũckĕd up recently when they failed to arrange for a suitable calibre substitute opponent when it transpired that Canelo had failed a drug test.

They had more than nine weeks to orchestrate a backup plan, such as having Sergiy Derevyanchenko on stand-by (so that Gennady fulfilled his IBF mandatory), but instead they chose to procrastinate and only sought out a replacement opponent a few weeks prior to the Cinco de Mayo fight date.

This resulted in Golovkin facing the absolutely dire Vanes Martirosyan instead, which the IBF understandably refused to sanction.

So GGG promotions’ lack of planning, not only cost Gennady one of his titles and receiving an unusually small payday (due to engaging in the Martirosyan mismatch), but it also weakened his ability to negotiate terms with GBP, due to holding one less championship.

If GGG Promotions’ fũck up again, by rejecting an offer that is a measly 2½ per cent less than the amount they publicly stated that they’d accept, then all the people employed by Team GGG are a bunch of fúckíng morons!

ewenhay wrote: ↑13 Jun 2018, 13:20

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑13 Jun 2018, 03:49

Heretic wrote: ↑13 Jun 2018, 03:29

I disagree.

There are more deserving contenders out there.

GGG has been trough lot of bullshit because of Canelo. If he feels like doing the rematch is not worth the cash then who can say hes wrong?

There is other things than money... GGG has made enough to last him a life time if hes wise with the money. Does he really need every penny he can get? It is up to him what he values more.

I will only aggressively lambaste your stupid posts

Golovkin agreed to take 30% for his first bout against Canelo.

GBP subsequently offered GGG 35% for the rematch.

Gennady declined this offer and instead demanded 50%, which resulted in a breakdown in negotiations.

Oscar De La Hoya then stated that Canelo would seek to face other opponents instead, such as the likes of Danny Jacobs and Billy Joe Saunders.

And shortly after GBP issued their threat, Tom Loeffler issued a statement, which declared that GGG was willing to compromise, by facing Canelo for 45% instead.

Oscar De La Hoya then issued a new offer to GGG, with the new purse split being 42½ per cent.

Tom Loeffler has already confirmed that Gennady Golovkin will have the final say as to whether or not Team GGG accepts De La Hoya’s latest offer, which I strongly suspect is the highest figure that GBP are willing to go to.

GGG will receive a massively improved purse split for the Canelo rematch in comparison to the figure he earned for the first bout… and it’s incredibly close to the percentage split that he publicly stated that he’d be willing to accept.

Golovkin is also incapable of receiving a purse amount that is remotely close to the one currently being offered by GBP if he chose to fight someone other than Canelo.

Therefore, GGG would indeed deserve to be ridiculed and aggressively lambasted if he didn't accept GBP’s revised terms.

GGG Promotions have already fũckĕd up recently when they failed to arrange for a suitable calibre substitute opponent when it transpired that Canelo had failed a drug test.

They had more than nine weeks to orchestrate a backup plan, such as having Sergiy Derevyanchenko on stand-by (so that Gennady fulfilled his IBF mandatory), but instead they chose to procrastinate and only sought out a replacement opponent a few weeks prior to the Cinco de Mayo fight date.

This resulted in Golovkin facing the absolutely dire Vanes Martirosyan instead, which the IBF understandably refused to sanction.

So GGG promotions’ lack of planning, not only cost Gennady one of his titles and receiving an unusually small payday (due to engaging in the Martirosyan mismatch), but it also weakened his ability to negotiate terms with GBP, due to holding one less championship.

If GGG Promotions’ fũck up again, by rejecting an offer that is a measly 2½ per cent less than the amount they publicly stated that they’d accept, then all the people employed by Team GGG are a bunch of fúckíng morons!

I think you might be the only person on the planet who believes everything that GBP say. I doubt they even believe 50% of what they say

SenorPipino wrote: ↑13 Jun 2018, 13:30

ewenhay wrote: ↑13 Jun 2018, 13:20

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑13 Jun 2018, 03:49
Golovkin agreed to take 30% for his first bout against Canelo.

GBP subsequently offered GGG 35% for the rematch.

Gennady declined this offer and instead demanded 50%, which resulted in a breakdown in negotiations.

Oscar De La Hoya then stated that Canelo would seek to face other opponents instead, such as the likes of Danny Jacobs and Billy Joe Saunders.

And shortly after GBP issued their threat, Tom Loeffler issued a statement, which declared that GGG was willing to compromise, by facing Canelo for 45% instead.

Oscar De La Hoya then issued a new offer to GGG, with the new purse split being 42½ per cent.

Tom Loeffler has already confirmed that Gennady Golovkin will have the final say as to whether or not Team GGG accepts De La Hoya’s latest offer, which I strongly suspect is the highest figure that GBP are willing to go to.

GGG will receive a massively improved purse split for the Canelo rematch in comparison to the figure he earned for the first bout… and it’s incredibly close to the percentage split that he publicly stated that he’d be willing to accept.

Golovkin is also incapable of receiving a purse amount that is remotely close to the one currently being offered by GBP if he chose to fight someone other than Canelo.

Therefore, GGG would indeed deserve to be ridiculed and aggressively lambasted if he didn't accept GBP’s revised terms.

GGG Promotions have already fũckĕd up recently when they failed to arrange for a suitable calibre substitute opponent when it transpired that Canelo had failed a drug test.

They had more than nine weeks to orchestrate a backup plan, such as having Sergiy Derevyanchenko on stand-by (so that Gennady fulfilled his IBF mandatory), but instead they chose to procrastinate and only sought out a replacement opponent a few weeks prior to the Cinco de Mayo fight date.

This resulted in Golovkin facing the absolutely dire Vanes Martirosyan instead, which the IBF understandably refused to sanction.

So GGG promotions’ lack of planning, not only cost Gennady one of his titles and receiving an unusually small payday (due to engaging in the Martirosyan mismatch), but it also weakened his ability to negotiate terms with GBP, due to holding one less championship.

If GGG Promotions’ fũck up again, by rejecting an offer that is a measly 2½ per cent less than the amount they publicly stated that they’d accept, then all the people employed by Team GGG are a bunch of fúckíng morons!

I think you might be the only person on the planet who believes everything that GBP say. I doubt they even believe 50% of what they say

But I believe them when they say that Golovkin has about 90 more minutes to make the oh-too-obvious decision or else risk losing his title for pauper's pay.

ValMar wrote: ↑13 Jun 2018, 13:39 This is something like Floyd vs. Pac situation.
Very sad, and boring.............

ewenhay wrote: ↑13 Jun 2018, 13:35

SenorPipino wrote: ↑13 Jun 2018, 13:30

ewenhay wrote: ↑13 Jun 2018, 13:20

I think you might be the only person on the planet who believes everything that GBP say. I doubt they even believe 50% of what they say

But I believe them when they say that Golovkin has about 90 more minutes to make the oh-too-obvious decision or else risk losing his title for pauper's pay.

I don't. They raised the offer because they want the fight as much, if not more than the Golovkin camp.

If Golovkin decides to sleep on it it will still be on the table tomorrow. If it's not it wasnt real in the first place.

SenorPipino wrote: ↑13 Jun 2018, 13:50

ewenhay wrote: ↑13 Jun 2018, 13:35

SenorPipino wrote: ↑13 Jun 2018, 13:30


But I believe them when they say that Golovkin has about 90 more minutes to make the oh-too-obvious decision or else risk losing his title for pauper's pay.

I don't. They raised the offer because they want the fight as much, if not more than the Golovkin camp.

If Golovkin decides to sleep on it it will still be on the table tomorrow. If it's not it wasnt real in the first place.

While it's true that in boxing negotiations, deadlines are made to be broken, it seems likely that this is a legit one.

Canelo will fight on Sept. 15, with or without Golovkin.

GBP needs to negotiate a fight pronto if Golovkin gives a thumbs down today.

For promotional purposes, there has to be an approximate 3 month window between a fight signing and the actual bout.

That window is just about closed.

Jacobs has reportedly turned down an 80/20 split so negotiations need to quickly resume.

There's no more time left for Golovkin to play games. His answer must come within an hour.

ewenhay wrote: ↑13 Jun 2018, 13:54

SenorPipino wrote: ↑13 Jun 2018, 13:50

ewenhay wrote: ↑13 Jun 2018, 13:35

I don't. They raised the offer because they want the fight as much, if not more than the Golovkin camp.

If Golovkin decides to sleep on it it will still be on the table tomorrow. If it's not it wasnt real in the first place.

While it's true that in boxing negotiations, deadlines are made to be broken, it seems likely that this is a legit one.

Canelo will fight on Sept. 15, with or without Golovkin.

GBP needs to negotiate a fight pronto if Golovkin gives a thumbs down today.

For promotional purposes, there has to be an approximate 3 month window between a fight signing and the actual bout.

That window is just about closed.

Jacobs has reportedly turned down an 80/20 split so negotiations need to quickly resume.

There's no more time left for Golovkin to play games. His answer must come within an hour.

I hope you copy and paste your posts to save you typing out the same thing over and over again.

Is Enlightened One your other account?

ewenhay wrote: ↑13 Jun 2018, 13:54

SenorPipino wrote: ↑13 Jun 2018, 13:50

ewenhay wrote: ↑13 Jun 2018, 13:35

I don't. They raised the offer because they want the fight as much, if not more than the Golovkin camp.

If Golovkin decides to sleep on it it will still be on the table tomorrow. If it's not it wasnt real in the first place.

While it's true that in boxing negotiations, deadlines are made to be broken, it seems likely that this is a legit one.

Canelo will fight on Sept. 15, with or without Golovkin.

GBP needs to negotiate a fight pronto if Golovkin gives a thumbs down today.

For promotional purposes, there has to be an approximate 3 month window between a fight signing and the actual bout.

That window is just about closed.

Jacobs has reportedly turned down an 80/20 split so negotiations need to quickly resume.

There's no more time left for Golovkin to play games. His answer must come within an hour.

I hope you copy and paste your posts to save you typing out the same thing over and over again.

Is Enlightened One your other account?

SenorPipino wrote: ↑13 Jun 2018, 14:48

ewenhay wrote: ↑13 Jun 2018, 13:54

SenorPipino wrote: ↑13 Jun 2018, 13:50

While it's true that in boxing negotiations, deadlines are made to be broken, it seems likely that this is a legit one.

Canelo will fight on Sept. 15, with or without Golovkin.

GBP needs to negotiate a fight pronto if Golovkin gives a thumbs down today.

For promotional purposes, there has to be an approximate 3 month window between a fight signing and the actual bout.

That window is just about closed.

Jacobs has reportedly turned down an 80/20 split so negotiations need to quickly resume.

There's no more time left for Golovkin to play games. His answer must come within an hour.

I hope you copy and paste your posts to save you typing out the same thing over and over again.

Is Enlightened One your other account?

Some of you guys need to worry less about who might (or might not) be who, and pay more attention to your own half baked speculation.

And the clock is rapidly ticking away.....

SenorPipino wrote: ↑13 Jun 2018, 14:48

ewenhay wrote: ↑13 Jun 2018, 13:54

SenorPipino wrote: ↑13 Jun 2018, 13:50

While it's true that in boxing negotiations, deadlines are made to be broken, it seems likely that this is a legit one.

Canelo will fight on Sept. 15, with or without Golovkin.

GBP needs to negotiate a fight pronto if Golovkin gives a thumbs down today.

For promotional purposes, there has to be an approximate 3 month window between a fight signing and the actual bout.

That window is just about closed.

Jacobs has reportedly turned down an 80/20 split so negotiations need to quickly resume.

There's no more time left for Golovkin to play games. His answer must come within an hour.

I hope you copy and paste your posts to save you typing out the same thing over and over again.

Is Enlightened One your other account?

Some of you guys need to worry less about who might (or might not) be who, and pay more attention to your own half baked speculation.

And the clock is rapidly ticking away.....

ewenhay wrote: ↑13 Jun 2018, 13:57

ewenhay wrote: ↑13 Jun 2018, 13:54

SenorPipino wrote: ↑13 Jun 2018, 13:50

While it's true that in boxing negotiations, deadlines are made to be broken, it seems likely that this is a legit one.

Canelo will fight on Sept. 15, with or without Golovkin.

GBP needs to negotiate a fight pronto if Golovkin gives a thumbs down today.

For promotional purposes, there has to be an approximate 3 month window between a fight signing and the actual bout.

That window is just about closed.

Jacobs has reportedly turned down an 80/20 split so negotiations need to quickly resume.

There's no more time left for Golovkin to play games. His answer must come within an hour.

I hope you copy and paste your posts to save you typing out the same thing over and over again.

Is Enlightened One your other account?

Also, can I ask, why is it so important to you that Alvarez gets a much larger share than Golovkin? It's become a mantra.

boxing_rocks wrote: ↑13 Jun 2018, 15:09 Pipi clearly gets excessive satisfaction from a Mexican being a star/an A side while the better fighter having to be a sheep. Pathetic creature that Pipi is!

And then literally a minute after Oscar and I hung up, one of his people called me back and said, "Hold up!" There is literally a Hail Mary deal idea they are trying to see if they can get GGG to take. So so sit tight!

SenorPipino wrote: ↑13 Jun 2018, 15:43

boxing_rocks wrote: ↑13 Jun 2018, 15:09 Pipi clearly gets excessive satisfaction from a Mexican being a star/an A side while the better fighter having to be a sheep. Pathetic creature that Pipi is!

Apparently Golovkin is afraid to determine who exactly is the better fighter.

Still balking. And going incognito halfway across the world to avoid the firestorm.

And as long as Canelo is the box office star---whatever his nationality---why should he ever play second fiddle to a guy who can't attract cockroaches to a cheap Tijuana hotel room?

I'd hate to have you guys as a business advisor.

boxing_rocks wrote: ↑13 Jun 2018, 15:45

SenorPipino wrote: ↑13 Jun 2018, 15:43

boxing_rocks wrote: ↑13 Jun 2018, 15:09 Pipi clearly gets excessive satisfaction from a Mexican being a star/an A side while the better fighter having to be a sheep. Pathetic creature that Pipi is!

Apparently Golovkin is afraid to determine who exactly is the better fighter.

Still balking. And going incognito halfway across the world to avoid the firestorm.

And as long as Canelo is the box office star---whatever his nationality---why should he ever play second fiddle to a guy who can't attract cockroaches to a cheap Tijuana hotel room?

I'd hate to have you guys as a business advisor.

What Golovkin is refusing to do is to be a sheep and satisfy morons like you.

apollo creed wrote: ↑13 Jun 2018, 12:02

jamamb wrote: ↑12 Jun 2018, 19:07 would be dumb not to take it

Yup. This would be life changing money.

squiggy wrote: ↑13 Jun 2018, 16:22

apollo creed wrote: ↑13 Jun 2018, 12:02

jamamb wrote: ↑12 Jun 2018, 19:07 would be dumb not to take it

Yup. This would be life changing money.

You're talking about people who are already multi-millionaires.