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SenorPipino wrote: ↑16 Jun 2018, 06:36

boxing_rocks wrote: ↑16 Jun 2018, 00:48

SenorPipino wrote: ↑15 Jun 2018, 22:46

Yeah, like Floyd didn't fight and beat a who's who of fighters in 5 different weight divisions during a 20 year career.

He was definitely avoiding the most dangerous opponents in their prime at 147 and above.

That's the same line fans probably use about every big name fighter.

When you fight only twice a year, as most elites do, it's difficult to work every boxer into your schedule.

And if somehow you eventually do, a new host of contenders arise, and detractors will say you're avoiding them too.

De La Hoya, Corrales, Canelo, Judah, Cotto, Gatti, Castillo, Pacquiao, Maidana, Mosley, Marquez, Hatton......

Just reviewing that list of HOF names makes it seem ludicrous and laughable that fans can accuse Mayweather of dodging talent.

His record is untouchable.

Old mosley, old gatti, past prime pacquiao, small marquez, small hatton, old cotto.

Yeah floyd was great at beating smaller or old opponents. Overrated record.

You wanna know an untouchable record.
Oscar de la hoyas record.

He faced prime trinidad, prime mosley, prime vargas, prime hopkins, prime pacquiao.

He fought the best when the best were in prime shape. Thats untouchable.

boxing_rocks wrote: ↑16 Jun 2018, 10:07

SenorPipino wrote: ↑16 Jun 2018, 06:36

boxing_rocks wrote: ↑16 Jun 2018, 00:48
He was definitely avoiding the most dangerous opponents in their prime at 147 and above.

That's the same line fans probably use about every big name fighter.

When you fight only twice a year, as most elites do, it's difficult to work every boxer into your schedule.

That is just a ridiculous statement. Any fighter was ready to drop anything and sign for a Mayweather paycheck.

Try to follow me B_R.

What I said was that when you only fight twice a year, as elites seem to do in this era, it's impossible to fit the entire division into your dance card.

Some will get bypassed.

Of course all the top fighters he met and beat are predictably overlooked by detractors.

But they just as predictably jump all over him for neglecting the ones he didn't have time for.

Do you think twice a year Lomachenko will get around to everybody? How about twice a year Golovkin or twice a year Spence? And also twice a year Crawford?

Do you really think that Mayweather could have reasonably accommodated everyone?

He did a pretty damn good over his 20 year career of taking on a host of marketable, high profile names.

Criticism of him seems unwarranted and petty.

Yes, some get bypassed especially rangy southpaws, while Guerreros get their shots.

Don't compare him to Loma who tries to fight the very best possible opponents.

Sorono wrote: ↑16 Jun 2018, 11:58

SenorPipino wrote: ↑16 Jun 2018, 06:36

boxing_rocks wrote: ↑16 Jun 2018, 00:48
He was definitely avoiding the most dangerous opponents in their prime at 147 and above.

That's the same line fans probably use about every big name fighter.

When you fight only twice a year, as most elites do, it's difficult to work every boxer into your schedule.

And if somehow you eventually do, a new host of contenders arise, and detractors will say you're avoiding them too.

De La Hoya, Corrales, Canelo, Judah, Cotto, Gatti, Castillo, Pacquiao, Maidana, Mosley, Marquez, Hatton......

Just reviewing that list of HOF names makes it seem ludicrous and laughable that fans can accuse Mayweather of dodging talent.

His record is untouchable.

Old mosley, old gatti, past prime pacquiao, small marquez, small hatton, old cotto.

Yeah floyd was great at beating smaller or old opponents. Overrated record.

You wanna know an untouchable record.
Oscar de la hoyas record.

He faced prime trinidad, prime mosley, prime vargas, prime hopkins, prime pacquiao.

He fought the best when the best were in prime shape. Thats untouchable.

And a still unbeaten Whitaker, too.

KiwiRider wrote: ↑16 Jun 2018, 00:28 People don't tend to boo at Crawford fights.

I was surprised to see the OP call him boring. Is that the general consensus? I love watching him. Probably the best example out there of someone who can show excellent boxing skills and a really nasty, aggressive streak at the same time.

ElJefe wrote: ↑16 Jun 2018, 22:09

KiwiRider wrote: ↑16 Jun 2018, 00:28 People don't tend to boo at Crawford fights.

I was surprised to see the OP call him boring. Is that the general consensus? I love watching him. Probably the best example out there of someone who can show excellent boxing skills and a really nasty, aggressive streak at the same time.

Skilled for sure. Watch the last 3 rounds of the Canelo fight if you want to hear booing and tell me if it was boring.

Crawford will go for the kill and when he senses his opponent in trouble he goes straight to work for the finish. I hope he stays that way and doesn't become a "two punches on the run, wonder". He's more like Sugar ray Leonard than Mayweather in that respect.