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dickbelden wrote: ↑27 Jun 2018, 14:35 https://www.boxingnews24.com/2018/06/wi ... ore-265850

This topic is pretty much dead. Obviously neither side wants this fight.
The fans that side with either fighters team will ot change their minds. There is more than enough blame to
go around on this

dickbelden wrote: ↑27 Jun 2018, 15:25

Hell yeah sign the contract

It's really simple. WBA has been waiting since the AJ Parker fight. Wilder has agreed to the fight and not signed the contract he's had for about a month. WBA are ordering Povetkin, so AJ has to now fight him. Whoever is advising Wilder is a melt

Hope Povetkin wins. Eddie would have cost his fighter over 100 million with a rematch.

Povetkin has a chance - that chance gets slimmer if the same type of ref is used as was in the Parker fight. And by ‘same type of ref’ I mean one who doesn’t allow inside boxing and ones that likes following the orders of Mr E Hearn. “Yes sir, please sir, shine box sir”

marvelous marv wrote: ↑28 Jun 2018, 05:03 Hope Povetkin wins. Eddie would have cost his fighter over 100 million with a rematch.

A couple of months ago, AJ supposedly signed a $131m contract renewal with Matchroom and you're exaggerating things a bit by claiming that Joshua is capable of earning “100 million” dollars or sterling for fighting Deontay Wilder twice.

lazboy wrote: ↑28 Jun 2018, 05:38 Povetkin has a chance - that chance gets slimmer if the same type of ref is used as was in the Parker fight. And by ‘same type of ref’ I mean one who doesn’t allow inside boxing and ones that likes following the orders of Mr E Hearn. “Yes sir, please sir, shine box sir”

That argument is a dud, That ref didn't help AJ... he's strong on the inside

danconnollyeire wrote: ↑28 Jun 2018, 07:55

lazboy wrote: ↑28 Jun 2018, 05:38 Povetkin has a chance - that chance gets slimmer if the same type of ref is used as was in the Parker fight. And by ‘same type of ref’ I mean one who doesn’t allow inside boxing and ones that likes following the orders of Mr E Hearn. “Yes sir, please sir, shine box sir”

That argument is a dud, That ref didn't help AJ... he's strong on the inside

Indeed, he was just a crap ref.

There was a head clash very early in the fight that caused the ref to shit himself and pull them apart everytime they came within a foot of eachother.

But the argument that it helped Joshua is pretty weak as it could just as reasonably be argued that it saved Parker from getting KOd.

Why would he sign up for this? The deal was contingent on being the next opponent. He was passed over yet again. Showtime is about to offer him equal money money for his next fight.

Why would any major North American "free agent" sign with Hearn? They are all watching these negotiations with disgust as their first introduction to Matchroom boxing.

Wilder ducked. What an easy one to see too. Anyone saying it's both sides is a complete idiot. Wilder just waited it out.

I guess people like Tyson Fury,Lennox Lewis and Stephen Espinoza are complete idiots then.

Both sides should be blamed equally.

so apparently wilder wants 50-50 now

..both teams have lost and should concentrate on their next respective fights now...

I think Wilder (his team) is a fool :

I would back AJ if I were a gambling man, but Wilder's power gives him a significant chance of winning.

He's rejected £15m to fight AJ and almost certainly could have negotiated a rematch clause win or lose, which taken together would have him set up for life.

To make that 15m he will need to make a minimum of 5 successful defences and it could well be more. He has struggled with the likes of Duhaupas and Szpilka, had to come from behind to beat Washington and there's a limit to how many more fringe contenders public opinion will allow him. Breazeale should be beatable but it seems clear his team regard Dillian Whyte as too big a risk (I don't see it myself) and then there is Miller, Parker, Povetkin, possibly Pulev who are all significantly better than 38 of Wilder's 40 opponents to date. Who's to say he can stay undefeated?

When you consider how Wilder suffered serious injury even fighting someone as innocuous as the way past his best - which was not that impressive anyway - Chris Arreola, it is not unlikely that Deontay could be side-lined at any time by a recurrence of an old injury or a new but related one. What are the odds of Wilder completing 5 defences without his hands letting him down again? Can we be sure another serious injury won't end his career with damage done to both his and AJ's legacy?

He'll be 33 in October It's safe to say he's not going to get better nor less injury prone and the Joshua fight isn't always going to be there. The WBA have lost patience and insisted on Joshua making his mandatory defence against Povetkin. They have given Joshua and Wilder every chance to come to terms. Mandatories will be keeping Joshua pretty occupied from now on.

Wilder's team probably think they've been very clever in hanging in there until the WBA called a halt to the charade. They will no doubt succeed in pulling the wool over the eyes of those for whom Eddie Hearn is Satan's brother, and they may convince the moron contingent that AJ is a coward, but to my mind there is no doubt they have shot themselves in the foot and may have missed a golden opportunity for wealth and glory

Hearn is right. Wilder should be happy with 40%.