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Re: Magee v hatton
Posted: 27 Jun 2018, 10:32
by gilgamesh
jamamb wrote: ↑27 Jun 2018, 05:04
what exactly was bhops quality? aside from the kd and wobbling joe in the 6th his shots really werent very clean, hurtful, or frequent. they didnt stop joe at all, didnt bust him up, etc....and joe landed way more
joes shots were also of enough quality to make hopkins ball and shell up, sprawl to the ground, nearly cry, complain constantly, and look for a dq. hop didnt like the heat at all and got massively outlanded. wasnt comfortable in there at all but joe was
ppl gifting him on his rep....i can usually see both sides but just cant see how hopkins got the better of that.
Yeah I really don't either. I've always thought Calzaghe deserved the nod there.
Re: Magee v hatton
Posted: 27 Jun 2018, 11:33
by Crease
Bigdogsnose wrote: ↑26 Jun 2018, 07:22I have just read The lost soul of Eamonn Magee (class btw) and he felt he did enough to win the fight but he was never going to get the win with the referee (Micky vann) and the home crowd against him. He doesn’t cry out robbery, but certainly feels he was the better fighter on the night.
Anyone remember enough about this fight at the time to have a particularly strong view on it. I certainly can’t remember any controversy at the time (in my teens), or indeed recall it as any real question mark on Ricky’s record. The full fights on youtube so I’ll get round to watching it myself soon.
Magee is from the same North Belfast district that I am from and I was all for him winning.
From what I can remember, he hurt Hatton early on and instead of pushing on and pressuring Hatton, he took his foot of the pedal and let Ricky back into the fight and go on to get the points win.
As a gentleman said early on in this thread:
stujones wrote: ↑26 Jun 2018, 18:28Ricky outworked Magee...but it was one I wanted to see a rematch of as
I felt a case of Eamonn losing more so than Ricky winning.
Re: Magee v hatton
Posted: 27 Jun 2018, 14:48
by Noxy
Crease wrote: ↑27 Jun 2018, 11:33
Bigdogsnose wrote: ↑26 Jun 2018, 07:22I have just read The lost soul of Eamonn Magee (class btw) and he felt he did enough to win the fight but he was never going to get the win with the referee (Micky vann) and the home crowd against him. He doesn’t cry out robbery, but certainly feels he was the better fighter on the night.
Anyone remember enough about this fight at the time to have a particularly strong view on it. I certainly can’t remember any controversy at the time (in my teens), or indeed recall it as any real question mark on Ricky’s record. The full fights on youtube so I’ll get round to watching it myself soon.
Magee is from the same North Belfast district that I am from and I was all for him winning.
From what I can remember, he hurt Hatton early on and instead of pushing on and pressuring Hatton, he took his foot of the pedal and let Ricky back into the fight and go on to get the points win.
As a gentleman said early on in this thread:
stujones wrote: ↑26 Jun 2018, 18:28Ricky outworked Magee...but it was one I wanted to see a rematch of as
I felt a case of Eamonn losing more so than Ricky winning.
Do you know him at all?
Re: Magee v hatton
Posted: 27 Jun 2018, 19:45
by banjo
I don't agree with this "Magee lost the fight rather than Hatton won it" bollocks, Hatton rushed in like a nutter because he was wound up by Magee in the buildup, once Graham calmed him down he outboxed Magee for the majority of the fight and won quite clearly.
Re: Magee v hatton
Posted: 28 Jun 2018, 02:02
by Bigdogsnose
Crease wrote: ↑27 Jun 2018, 11:33
Bigdogsnose wrote: ↑26 Jun 2018, 07:22I have just read The lost soul of Eamonn Magee (class btw) and he felt he did enough to win the fight but he was never going to get the win with the referee (Micky vann) and the home crowd against him. He doesn’t cry out robbery, but certainly feels he was the better fighter on the night.
Anyone remember enough about this fight at the time to have a particularly strong view on it. I certainly can’t remember any controversy at the time (in my teens), or indeed recall it as any real question mark on Ricky’s record. The full fights on youtube so I’ll get round to watching it myself soon.
Magee is from the same North Belfast district that I am from and I was all for him winning.
From what I can remember, he hurt Hatton early on and instead of pushing on and pressuring Hatton, he took his foot of the pedal and let Ricky back into the fight and go on to get the points win.
As a gentleman said early on in this thread:
stujones wrote: ↑26 Jun 2018, 18:28Ricky outworked Magee...but it was one I wanted to see a rematch of as
I felt a case of Eamonn losing more so than Ricky winning.
in his book he alludes to the fact that he often took his foot of the gas to save himself for the championship rounds. The lifestyle he led meant he couldn't put in the necessary workrate over a full 12 rounds.
Re: Magee v hatton
Posted: 28 Jun 2018, 06:04
by TheLeprechaun
I remember magee as Martin Murray type nearly man. Landed a nice counter hook on hatton and did nothing for the rest of the round. Then found a way to do the bare minimum for the rest of the fight.
Re: Magee v hatton
Posted: 28 Jun 2018, 06:49
by paddy chavez
Of what I remember I wasn't impressed with hatton he just seemed to rush in and get picked off by magee and he seemed to get bossed about in the early rounds
Re: Magee v hatton
Posted: 28 Jun 2018, 09:50
by Noxy
paddy chavez wrote: ↑28 Jun 2018, 06:49
Of what I remember I wasn't impressed with hatton he just seemed to rush in and get picked off by magee and he seemed to get bossed about in the early rounds
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Yes, but he stood off him more after the first two or three rounds, which worked better for him. So he was able to adapt. Another thing I remember from that fight is Hatton‘s trademark hooks to the body, which didn’t seem to get any reaction from Magee. That must have been a first for Ricky, I‘m sure he took away a lot from that fight.
Re: Magee v hatton
Posted: 30 Jun 2018, 15:01
by Khaosai-Galaxy
Watched this in a pub in Salford. Being a Manchester United fan and IRA supporter, I had no problems choosing who to support.
I remember driving home down the East Lancs, pissed out of my mind and never seeing a single copper.