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Re: Garcia v Easter Kovalev v Alvarez Uk TV
Posted: 01 Aug 2018, 17:16
by 3132DW
Any word on UK coverage for Kovalev/Bivol Fights this weekend ?
Pretty grim if this card and Garcia last weekend are not being shown - with BN decline we are going to get less coverage.
Re: Garcia v Easter Kovalev v Alvarez Uk TV
Posted: 01 Aug 2018, 17:25
by Stuarty
3132DW wrote: ↑01 Aug 2018, 17:16
Any word on UK coverage for Kovalev/Bivol Fights this weekend ?
Pretty grim if this card and Garcia last weekend are not being shown - with BN decline we are going to get less coverage.
Was thinking of this yesterday mate. There's nothing on the schedule as yet. BN don't have anything live on so hopefully they'll have a late bid.
Re: Garcia v Easter Kovalev v Alvarez Uk TV
Posted: 03 Aug 2018, 14:18
by Boxerbeetle
Doesn’t seem to be any sign of BN getting this. What’s the point of the channel now? They’re not showing UK shows and hardly showing any international shows. Charging £12 a month for nothing.
Re: Garcia v Easter Kovalev v Alvarez Uk TV
Posted: 03 Aug 2018, 16:29
by KiwiRider
I find that puzzling.
Sky Sports is showing the whole Kov Alv card live here in New Zealand
It's on at 1pm Sunday afternoon.
So they do have the rights as a company, maybe they don't have the UK rights or something..
Re: Garcia v Easter Kovalev v Alvarez Uk TV
Posted: 03 Aug 2018, 17:19
by Stuarty
Boxerbeetle wrote: ↑03 Aug 2018, 14:18
Doesn’t seem to be any sign of BN getting this. What’s the point of the channel now? They’re not showing UK shows and hardly showing any international shows. Charging £12 a month for nothing.
They're without a doubt going tits up. I'd have cancelled but I get it free with BT sports subscription.
Re: Garcia v Easter Kovalev v Alvarez Uk TV
Posted: 04 Aug 2018, 04:34
by Andrew
Joke.
Two top 5 light heavies and it's not even on TV
Re: Garcia v Easter Kovalev v Alvarez Uk TV
Posted: 04 Aug 2018, 07:16
by MightyWarrior
KiwiRider wrote: ↑03 Aug 2018, 16:29
I find that puzzling.
Sky Sports is showing the whole Kov Alv card live here in New Zealand
It's on at 1pm Sunday afternoon.
So they do have the rights as a company, maybe they don't have the UK rights or something..
Because Hearn’s lapdog, the complete clown Adam Smith spends the budget where Eddie tells him to, for instance the main event this weekend between 2 novices - rather than a big lightheavy world title fight any fight fan would want to see.
Re: Garcia v Easter Kovalev v Alvarez Uk TV
Posted: 05 Aug 2018, 02:06
by Ruthless-RKO
Re: Garcia v Easter Kovalev v Alvarez Uk TV
Posted: 05 Aug 2018, 02:58
by Tuan_Jim
So... Kovalev. Discuss?
Re: Garcia v Easter Kovalev v Alvarez Uk TV
Posted: 05 Aug 2018, 03:13
by jamamb
was well ahead and then got ktfo
Re: Garcia v Easter Kovalev v Alvarez Uk TV
Posted: 05 Aug 2018, 03:29
by samwbr
Tuan_Jim wrote: ↑05 Aug 2018, 02:58
So... Kovalev. Discuss?
Finished. Bit more than 35 too.
Re: Garcia v Easter Kovalev v Alvarez Uk TV
Posted: 05 Aug 2018, 03:41
by Boxerbeetle
Kovalev has always looked a bit too fragile to properly earn the ‘monster’ tag that some people were giving him a few years ago, but must admit I wasn’t expecting that at all. Thought he’d have too much for Alvarez. The way Kov unfolds when he’s put under pressure is very worrying.
Re: Garcia v Easter Kovalev v Alvarez Uk TV
Posted: 05 Aug 2018, 04:53
by Tuan_Jim
What's happened to Kovalev as he's reached elite quality opposition is what I've been expecting to happen to him (and Golovkin) for a while. I appreciate he's 35 and at that age anything can happen but there seems to be a culture now where fighters win a trinket and knock out a slew of second-rate challengers while subscription channels overhype them and rubes utterly invest themselves in their greatness, and take it deeply personally if anyone dares criticise them. Kovalev with his hands down and chin up was always going to be a liability against a well-rounded boxer with a bit of power and a game plan. The only thing more alarming than how quickly he collapsed when hurt was how long it took him to find a quality all-rounder to fight. If you suggested that Kovalev would get chinned by this type of boxer two years ago you would be met with intense vitriol or laughed out of a thread.
Re: Garcia v Easter Kovalev v Alvarez Uk TV
Posted: 05 Aug 2018, 04:55
by samwbr
Andre Ward knocked the belief out of him. He pretty much quit in that fight.
Re: Garcia v Easter Kovalev v Alvarez Uk TV
Posted: 05 Aug 2018, 05:07
by tobyh5
samwbr wrote: ↑05 Aug 2018, 04:55
Andre Ward knocked the belief out of him. He pretty much quit in that fight.
^^ This
When you trade on machismo and get not only beaten but in the end also outfought (different to outboxed), then you have nowhere to turn. When your very being, your essence, what makes you tick mentally inside is how tough you are (and its always there, every day even when walking down the street, taking kids to school, supermarket shopping etc, you know everyone looking at you sees a hard man) and then you are left not quite so tough, that your belief system in yourself was inflated, it leaves you vulnerable.
Re: Garcia v Easter Kovalev v Alvarez Uk TV
Posted: 05 Aug 2018, 05:20
by JimJim2009
Tuan_Jim wrote: ↑05 Aug 2018, 04:53
What's happened to Kovalev as he's reached elite quality opposition is what I've been expecting to happen to him (and Golovkin) for a while. I appreciate he's 35 and at that age anything can happen but there seems to be a culture now where fighters win a trinket and knock out a slew of second-rate challengers while subscription channels overhype them and rubes utterly invest themselves in their greatness, and take it deeply personally if anyone dares criticise them. Kovalev with his hands down and chin up was always going to be a liability against a well-rounded boxer with a bit of power and a game plan. The only thing more alarming than how quickly he collapsed when hurt was how long it took him to find a quality all-rounder to fight. If you suggested that Kovalev would get chinned by this type of boxer two years ago you would be met with intense vitriol or laughed out of a thread.
Good post
Re: Garcia v Easter Kovalev v Alvarez Uk TV
Posted: 05 Aug 2018, 06:21
by jvincent
Id noticed that american cards are not being being shown on sky anymore. I blame Eddie Hearn upsetting the apple cart with DAZN. Looks like with DAZN incoming we lose out on cards shown on any of the usa cable like showtime, hbo, fox etc. that weve been getting for years.
Re: Garcia v Easter Kovalev v Alvarez Uk TV
Posted: 05 Aug 2018, 07:37
by Datsue
Boxerbeetle wrote: ↑05 Aug 2018, 03:41
Kovalev has always looked a bit too fragile to properly earn the ‘monster’ tag that some people were giving him a few years ago, but must admit I wasn’t expecting that at all. Thought he’d have too much for Alvarez. The way Kov unfolds when he’s put under pressure is very worrying.
Big punchers always get Innernetz fans moist—c.f. Lucas Mathysse—& then 'cos they're exciting people blind themselves to their faults. This includes myself.
Credit to Alvarez, he looked like he knew exactly what he was doing in there. I thought his jab was disrupting Kovalev even in the rounds he lost, & that right hand had truly bad intentions behind it & landed as flush as flush can be (if not the type of shot that one would think would dispose of a bloke who's never been truly KO'd before).
Re: Garcia v Easter Kovalev v Alvarez Uk TV
Posted: 05 Aug 2018, 07:54
by Ruthless-RKO
jvincent wrote: ↑05 Aug 2018, 06:21
Id noticed that american cards are not being being shown on sky anymore. I blame Eddie Hearn upsetting the apple cart with DAZN. Looks like with DAZN incoming we lose out on cards shown on any of the usa cable like showtime, hbo, fox etc. that weve been getting for years.
Yes..
Even BN have cut down on the decent fights. They just about show ESPN cards and now DiBella's New York special or whatever it is..
They covered Kovalev VS. Mikhalkin.. Don't see why they didn't show this.. Instead they'd rather show us a Shuminov fight during the day or a Billy Dib vs. Farmer fight in the early hours on a Friday..
Re: Garcia v Easter Kovalev v Alvarez Uk TV
Posted: 05 Aug 2018, 08:20
by jvincent
Yes..
Even BN have cut down on the decent fights. They just about show ESPN cards and now DiBella's New York special or whatever it is..
They covered Kovalev VS. Mikhalkin.. Don't see why they didn't show this.. Instead they'd rather show us a Shuminov fight during the day or a Billy Dib vs. Farmer fight in the early hours on a Friday..
Its been absolutely shocking the past couple of weeks. allegedly has been poor as well not sure what im paying for now. Think its going to get worse in terms of the fights . Im guessing the only american fights we'll get on sky now are dazn which leaves out an awful lot of fights unless frank starts sticking them on BT PPV or something.
Re: Garcia v Easter Kovalev v Alvarez Uk TV
Posted: 05 Aug 2018, 08:48
by CaptainSpacerod
Looks like the Krusher is finished.
I don’t agree that he was just a bully who was exposed as second rate when he met top level opponents. Yes he was second rate when compared to ward but who isn’t ? Froch and Kessler were both dominated by him. In the first ward fight kovalev gave as good as he got against a p4p great.
I think kova just got old. Punch resistance is one of the first things to go and there were signs in the earlier rounds last night that he was troubled by shots from a guy who doesn’t have concussive power. Complaining about borderline low blows was another sign that things weren’t right with him.
He should retire.
Re: Garcia v Easter Kovalev v Alvarez Uk TV
Posted: 05 Aug 2018, 08:57
by DrDuke
CaptainSpacerod wrote: ↑05 Aug 2018, 08:48
Looks like the Krusher is finished.
I don’t agree that he was just a bully who was exposed as second rate when he met top level opponents. Yes he was second rate when compared to ward but who isn’t ? Froch and Kessler were both dominated by him. In the first ward fight kovalev gave as good as he got against a p4p great.
I think kova just got old. Punch resistance is one of the first things to go and there were signs in the earlier rounds last night that he was troubled by shots from a guy who doesn’t have concussive power. Complaining about borderline low blows was another sign that things weren’t right with him.
He should retire.
Kovalev had a great career and, yes, he just lost to the exceptionally good boxer, while now he got old and that's why he's been thrown from the top.
Re: Garcia v Easter Kovalev v Alvarez Uk TV
Posted: 05 Aug 2018, 09:04
by Deserter
CaptainSpacerod wrote: ↑05 Aug 2018, 08:48
Looks like the Krusher is finished.
I don’t agree that he was just a bully who was exposed as second rate when he met top level opponents. Yes he was second rate when compared to ward but who isn’t ? Froch and Kessler were both dominated by him. In the first ward fight kovalev gave as good as he got against a p4p great.
I think kova just got old. Punch resistance is one of the first things to go and there were signs in the earlier rounds last night that he was troubled by shots from a guy who doesn’t have concussive power. Complaining about borderline low blows was another sign that things weren’t right with him.
He should retire.
I agree with this - as much as the Kov fanboys could be OTT, there's now too much historical revisionism going on. Many thought Kov took the first Ward fight and what's beyond doubt is he pushed a legit modern p4p great all the way in a manner that no-one else has come close to doing. No-one was able to give Hopkins the sustained beatdown he did either. Bottom line is that he was a lot more than just a banger.
Re: Garcia v Easter Kovalev v Alvarez Uk TV
Posted: 05 Aug 2018, 09:05
by knockout
35 is old when you don’t live a clean life , Kovalev likes a drink, or ten, by all accounts and has had a long career. The wheels always fall off eventually. But that shouldn’t belittle or undermine his previous career achievements.
Re: Garcia v Easter Kovalev v Alvarez Uk TV
Posted: 05 Aug 2018, 09:17
by CMDY
Kovalev is way over 35. In interviews He’s joked about remembering his dog in the 1970’s.
I’m 38 and was born week before end of 1979. I wouldn’t be surprised if he’s 39 or even 40.