Tyson Fury is trying to cash out against Wilder

[chinarich]

So, Fury has been criticised for the quality of his comeback opponents and now criticised for (potentially) facing an unbeaten belt holder in his 3rd fight back...

[ewenhay]

So, Fury has been criticised for the quality of his comeback opponents and now criticised for (potentially) facing an unbeaten belt holder in his 3rd fight back...

Aye. Pretty much.

[candyslim]

Everyone seems to have ruled out the possibility of Fury stopping Wilder?

It's not impossible but even a peak Fury isn't known as a big puncher, nor is Deontay susceptible to a decent shot. If the Ortiz fight proved anything it was Wilder could take a good shot, could survive a sustained leather storm without wilting, and is a proud champion in the ring. He also has very good stamina, so no I don't expect a Fury who hasn' t had a fight worth that description ( fight) in three years to stop Wilder.

Now if only Wilder would display that fighting heart and act the proud champion when it comes to selecting his opposition, then I would not be growing increasingly impatient for one of the fight-anyone-heavyweights to relieve the fokker of his belt.

[candyslim]

So, Fury has been criticised for the quality of his comeback opponents and now criticised for (potentially) facing an unbeaten belt holder in his 3rd fight back...

He's being criticised for potentially throwing the one chance he'll get of beating Wilder, in the dustbin by rushing the job.

You can surely see why some of us think that, even if you don't agree, can't you? You don't enter the 100 metres if you haven't quite worked out whether you are capable of jogging.

[chinarich]

So, Fury has been criticised for the quality of his comeback opponents and now criticised for (potentially) facing an unbeaten belt holder in his 3rd fight back...

He's being criticised for potentially throwing the one chance he'll get of beating Wilder, in the dustbin by rushing the job.

You can surely see why some of us think that, even if you don't agree, can't you? You don't enter the 100 metres if you haven't quite worked out whether you are capable of jogging.

Oh yes, I understand what people are saying, but it seems fighters can’t win with some forumites. Your point is valid, I don’t think he’s cashing out and I think he’ll beat Wilder whether they fight this year or next...

[KiwiRider]

No it isn't, no you don't, yes it is.

nice one Slim.
I can just imagine your Mrs going off at you for 20 minutes, then you say;
"No it isn't, no you don't, yes it is"
And think you've won that one

[tiny_acres]

No it isn't, no you don't, yes it is.

nice one Slim.
I can just imagine your Mrs going off at you for 20 minutes, then you say;
"No it isn't, no you don't, yes it is"
And think you've won that one

I was thinking the same thing

[jamamb]

So, Fury has been criticised for the quality of his comeback opponents and now criticised for (potentially) facing an unbeaten belt holder in his 3rd fight back...

Aye. Pretty much.

it actually makes perfect sense, that ppl who think a guy who hasnt had tough enough tests would think hes rushing into a fight with an elite opponent, not sure exactly what you guys find strange or inconsistent about it

iits like, to give an extreme example for illustration, ppl could think an olympic gold medalist is fighting too weak opposition by facing total scrubs in his first 3 fights, but then think hed be stepping up too much if he then faced the p4p world #1 in his 4th fight

'but omg didnt ppl say he was facing too weak opposition' kinda misses the point of what is being said

[candyslim]

No it isn't, no you don't, yes it is.

nice one Slim.
I can just imagine your Mrs going off at you for 20 minutes, then you say;
"No it isn't, no you don't, yes it is"
And think you've won that one

Hell, I was agreeing with you (last bit should've read 'yes he is').

As for me thinking I've won one where the wife is concerned, let's just say there's more chance of Wilder agreeing to fight Dillian Whyte.

[Bard of Boxrec]

The fight won’t happen. If it did wilder would dismantle him

[candyslim]

Wilder Clearly doesn't think so or he would take what he has been offered to fight him £6m = 8 million USD i.e. twice what he would have got had he fought Povetkin and nearly 3x what he got for Ortiz.

Just WTF is wrong with the man?

[Heretic]

Fury should hurry into the big fights if hes even close of being fit.

There is no guarantees of how long he can keep himself of the coke and buffet tables

[candyslim]

Well that is one way of looking at it I suppose.

[ewenhay]

There's some logic in that. If he suffers from depression it's best to keep him motivated with stretch targets while he's on the upswing

[gilgamesh]

Surely a bout with Joshua would be more lucrative yes?

I doubt he's trying to cash out. He probably genuinely thinks he can beat Wilder because he's smoking the hopium with his fans that he ain't lost nothing over these last few years coking it up, and chunking out.

[Syntax Error]

What are people bothered about?

That Fury is looking at a title shot in his third fight back? A few days ago he was getting a hard time for taking easy fights whilst telling everyone he was after Wilder and Joshua. After being accused of talking the talk he's now planning to walk the walk.

Are people bothered that he's getting a title shot so soon? He's the ex champion. Vitali Klitschko got a title shot straight away after his period out of the sport.

That Wilder is taking on Fury? He gets plenty of criticism for easy defences. Taking on an ex champion is a potentially dangerous defence. What's the problem?

This is an excellent fight. Why are people complaining?

Spot on.

Fury has done a lot of jibber jabbering & not a lot of fighting.

Now is the time to put up or shut up & apparently, he looks like he wants to put up, so fair play to him.

We don't need to see him fighting car crash dummies & cardboard cutouts; he won't learn a thing from that & we won't either.

He's better off with intense sparring, fitness work & weight loss, then stepping back in at or near the top.

He's only 29 & some people still think he is the 'linear' champ, despite being inactive for 100 years, so why shouldn't he fight a trinket holder this year?

[Enlightened-One]

...Some people still think he is the 'linear' champ, despite being inactive for 100 years...

Tyson Fury is the linear champion. There’s no ambiguity about this. And if we're applying the same set of rules and logic consistently to all fighters that have previously held this status, then this is a fact that no one can possibly deny.

A fighter generally becomes the linear champion by beating the previous lineal titleholder.

That being said, the “linear” champion isn’t necessarily the best fighter in that division (i.e. Shannon Briggs & Michael Spinks' title reigns). They’re simply considered “the man that beat the man”. So it isn't always a prestigious status to hold.

Anyway, don’t pretend that Tyson Fury isn’t the “linear” champion, when he clearly is, because other heavyweight “linear” champions have retained ownership of this title despite being inactive for a longer period of time than ‘The Gypsy King’ had.

A case in point is Jack Dempsey’s reign, when he was considered the “linear” champion between 1923 until 1926, whilst being inactive for 181 days longer than Fury's period of inactivity.

[candyslim]

What are people bothered about?

That Fury is looking at a title shot in his third fight back? A few days ago he was getting a hard time for taking easy fights whilst telling everyone he was after Wilder and Joshua. After being accused of talking the talk he's now planning to walk the walk.

Are people bothered that he's getting a title shot so soon? He's the ex champion. Vitali Klitschko got a title shot straight away after his period out of the sport.

That Wilder is taking on Fury? He gets plenty of criticism for easy defences. Taking on an ex champion is a potentially dangerous defence. What's the problem?

This is an excellent fight. Why are people complaining?

Spot on.

Fury has done a lot of jibber jabbering & not a lot of fighting.

Now is the time to put up or shut up & apparently, he looks like he wants to put up, so fair play to him.

We don't need to see him fighting car crash dummies & cardboard cutouts; he won't learn a thing from that & we won't either.

He's better off with intense sparring, fitness work & weight loss, then stepping back in at or near the top.

He's only 29 & some people still think he is the 'linear' champ, despite being inactive for 100 years, so why shouldn't he fight a trinket holder this year?

He isn't ready that's why not. This is the biggest heavyweight fight that doesn't involve AJ so I don't understand why any boxing fan would want to see it flushed down the toilet. Would you eat a curry without boiling the rice because you are too impatient to get started?

In December it's a mismatch, next year it might be 50/50 or Fury might even be favourite. Nobody wants to see him beat up cardboard cut-outs like Seferi or Pianeta but wouldn't you have more confidence that the fight wouldn't turn out to be a huge steaming t urd, if Tyson had first repeated his wins over Chisora and Hammer or got a win over Kownacki or Ruiz for example?

It doesn't always happen of course but a title contender should have to prove his credentials by beating a halfway decent fighter or two to earn his shot and Fury should be no exception.

[adislav123]

With all due respect but the last paragraph made me smile as it's put up concerning a titleshot against wbc paper titlist WILDER. Fury is ready and he is the lineal heavyweight champion of the world. Fury beats Wilder. EASY.

[Billythekid25]

the whole Fury family are multi millionaires

he is not cashing out in the slightest

they have been funding Mick Hennessy shows for a long time

[Stuarty]

I'm a massive Firy fan and I think he's trying to prove a point here but I think he's far from ready. He has the skills to make Wilder look silly but he doesn't have his uncle Peter and won't be fit to fight Wilder when the time comes. Not ready yet man. Good luck to him though!

[candyslim]

With all due respect but the last paragraph made me smile as it's put up concerning a titleshot against wbc paper titlist WILDER. Fury is ready and he is the lineal heavyweight champion of the world. Fury beats Wilder. EASY.

You are talking like it's 2015 and the intervening 2.5 years of inactivity, bingeing, and massive weight increase and subsequent loss never happened.

He looked bloody awful against Seferi who wouldn't be capable of beating perhaps ten UK heavyweights and that's a bare minimum.

History is full of great champions who got totally destroyed when coming back after a long lay-off. It's not necessarily the case with Fury but why take the risk?

Wilder is a fearsome puncher and Fury doesn't have the greatest of Chins as we saw against the very much smaller, modest punching Steve Cunningham.

Why the hurry? If it is an interesting fight today it'll be an interesting fight tomorrow.

[Thomastearns]

This is probably what Tyson Fury is thinking:















The reality is this:

Absolutely brilliant! He's already tried Batman when he tackled the Joker in the runup to the Klitschko fight, so why not now try Herbie?

If I remember correctly, he was practically unbeatable in his day.

[ewenhay]

Pretty funny.

The photo is about a year old though.