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stujones wrote: ↑06 Aug 2018, 10:47 It is beyond a joke yes, but I always think he is a bit hard done by on here. He aint a bad boxer. Fielding vs Smigga after Fielding lost to Callum would have been seen as a good fight.

Yes, he should beat at least a decent domestic level fighter first, but its not like he did not embarrass himself against Abraham twice and Zeuge - yes, lost two of these decisively, but was competitive. Okay, we can forget about the Ward debacle.

jamamb wrote: ↑06 Aug 2018, 11:19

stujones wrote: ↑06 Aug 2018, 10:47 It is beyond a joke yes, but I always think he is a bit hard done by on here. He aint a bad boxer. Fielding vs Smigga after Fielding lost to Callum would have been seen as a good fight.

Yes, he should beat at least a decent domestic level fighter first, but its not like he did not embarrass himself against Abraham twice and Zeuge - yes, lost two of these decisively, but was competitive. Okay, we can forget about the Ward debacle.

ya, that really competitive 119-108 loss to a second rate belt holder destroyed by fielding

and the aa rematch wasnt competitive imo. basically hes been living off that first aa fight

what are his three best wins?

stujones wrote: ↑06 Aug 2018, 10:47 It is beyond a joke yes, but I always think he is a bit hard done by on here. He aint a bad boxer. Fielding vs Smigga after Fielding lost to Callum would have been seen as a good fight.

Yes, he should beat at least a decent domestic level fighter first, but its not like he did not embarrass himself against Abraham twice and Zeuge - yes, lost two of these decisively, but was competitive. Okay, we can forget about the Ward debacle.

TheGoods wrote: ↑07 Aug 2018, 00:40
“The plan is to do features in several major publications detailing the reasons for my retirement, then announce a return to the ring less than 12 week’s later for another world title fight. Hopefully in the three months I’ve been away I will have secured a top 15 rating with a major sanctioning body, despite the fact I’ve just been sat around at home in my duds eating Doritos and watching Love Island.”

Counter-puncher wrote: ↑07 Aug 2018, 04:37

TheGoods wrote: ↑07 Aug 2018, 00:40
“The plan is to do features in several major publications detailing the reasons for my retirement, then announce a return to the ring less than 12 week’s later for another world title fight. Hopefully in the three months I’ve been away I will have secured a top 15 rating with a major sanctioning body, despite the fact I’ve just been sat around at home in my duds eating Doritos and watching Love Island.”

jamamb wrote: ↑06 Aug 2018, 11:19

stujones wrote: ↑06 Aug 2018, 10:47 It is beyond a joke yes, but I always think he is a bit hard done by on here. He aint a bad boxer. Fielding vs Smigga after Fielding lost to Callum would have been seen as a good fight.

Yes, he should beat at least a decent domestic level fighter first, but its not like he did not embarrass himself against Abraham twice and Zeuge - yes, lost two of these decisively, but was competitive. Okay, we can forget about the Ward debacle.

ya, that really competitive 119-108 loss to a third rate belt holder destroyed by fielding and held to a draw by de carolas. seriously man! i dont know how you call that competitive.

and the aa rematch wasnt competitive imo. basically hes been living off that first aa fight, that he still lost, but has totally failed to get any positive result. he gets these opportunities because the other side knows there guy will win.

what are his three best wins?

i mean, people have gone on about guys like murray getting repeated shots, but murray actually drew with sturm, very arguably beat martinez, and only lost a split to abraham. smith just has that one aa fight he lost, and nothing else. was totally outclassed even by a guy like zeague.

smiths situation deserves ridicule

Flump wrote: ↑07 Aug 2018, 08:10

jamamb wrote: ↑06 Aug 2018, 11:19

stujones wrote: ↑06 Aug 2018, 10:47 It is beyond a joke yes, but I always think he is a bit hard done by on here. He aint a bad boxer. Fielding vs Smigga after Fielding lost to Callum would have been seen as a good fight.

Yes, he should beat at least a decent domestic level fighter first, but its not like he did not embarrass himself against Abraham twice and Zeuge - yes, lost two of these decisively, but was competitive. Okay, we can forget about the Ward debacle.

ya, that really competitive 119-108 loss to a third rate belt holder destroyed by fielding and held to a draw by de carolas. seriously man! i dont know how you call that competitive.

and the aa rematch wasnt competitive imo. basically hes been living off that first aa fight, that he still lost, but has totally failed to get any positive result. he gets these opportunities because the other side knows there guy will win.

what are his three best wins?

i mean, people have gone on about guys like murray getting repeated shots, but murray actually drew with sturm, very arguably beat martinez, and only lost a split to abraham. smith just has that one aa fight he lost, and nothing else. was totally outclassed even by a guy like zeague.

smiths situation deserves ridicule

You seem to forget that a few years earlier he would have handled that Zeuge kid, it was just age, he could see the openings and not do anything about it. A problem in fact he had his entire career.

TheGoods wrote: ↑07 Aug 2018, 00:40 https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/b ... 796967.amp

“Today marks a year since my last fight, so now is a good a time as any to announce my retirement from fighting.

“In that fight I was seeing things in my head that my body just couldn't do and I fely my age in there.

I ruptured a ligament in my right-hand to add to it, needing an operation, the fifth in my career.

“The hand took a long time to get back to strength but my mind was made up after the fight.

“I talked with my wife and brothers and the decision, although tough to say out loud, wasn't tough to make.“

“The plan is to do features in several major publications detailing the reasons for my retirement, then announce a return to the ring less than 12 week’s later for another world title fight. Hopefully in the three months I’ve been away I will have secured a top 15 rating with a major sanctioning body, despite the fact I’ve just been sat around at home in my duds eating Doritos and watching Love Island.”

Flump wrote: ↑07 Aug 2018, 08:10

jamamb wrote: ↑06 Aug 2018, 11:19

stujones wrote: ↑06 Aug 2018, 10:47 It is beyond a joke yes, but I always think he is a bit hard done by on here. He aint a bad boxer. Fielding vs Smigga after Fielding lost to Callum would have been seen as a good fight.

Yes, he should beat at least a decent domestic level fighter first, but its not like he did not embarrass himself against Abraham twice and Zeuge - yes, lost two of these decisively, but was competitive. Okay, we can forget about the Ward debacle.

ya, that really competitive 119-108 loss to a third rate belt holder destroyed by fielding and held to a draw by de carolas. seriously man! i dont know how you call that competitive.

and the aa rematch wasnt competitive imo. basically hes been living off that first aa fight, that he still lost, but has totally failed to get any positive result. he gets these opportunities because the other side knows there guy will win.

what are his three best wins?

i mean, people have gone on about guys like murray getting repeated shots, but murray actually drew with sturm, very arguably beat martinez, and only lost a split to abraham. smith just has that one aa fight he lost, and nothing else. was totally outclassed even by a guy like zeague.

smiths situation deserves ridicule

You seem to forget that a few years earlier he would have handled that Zeuge kid, it was just age, he could see the openings and not do anything about it. A problem in fact he had his entire career.

Flump wrote: ↑07 Aug 2018, 08:10

jamamb wrote: ↑06 Aug 2018, 11:19

stujones wrote: ↑06 Aug 2018, 10:47 It is beyond a joke yes, but I always think he is a bit hard done by on here. He aint a bad boxer. Fielding vs Smigga after Fielding lost to Callum would have been seen as a good fight.

Yes, he should beat at least a decent domestic level fighter first, but its not like he did not embarrass himself against Abraham twice and Zeuge - yes, lost two of these decisively, but was competitive. Okay, we can forget about the Ward debacle.

ya, that really competitive 119-108 loss to a third rate belt holder destroyed by fielding and held to a draw by de carolas. seriously man! i dont know how you call that competitive.

and the aa rematch wasnt competitive imo. basically hes been living off that first aa fight, that he still lost, but has totally failed to get any positive result. he gets these opportunities because the other side knows there guy will win.

what are his three best wins?

i mean, people have gone on about guys like murray getting repeated shots, but murray actually drew with sturm, very arguably beat martinez, and only lost a split to abraham. smith just has that one aa fight he lost, and nothing else. was totally outclassed even by a guy like zeague.

smiths situation deserves ridicule

You seem to forget that a few years earlier he would have handled that Zeuge kid, it was just age, he could see the openings and not do anything about it. A problem in fact he had his entire career.

Flump wrote: ↑07 Aug 2018, 08:10

jamamb wrote: ↑06 Aug 2018, 11:19

stujones wrote: ↑06 Aug 2018, 10:47 It is beyond a joke yes, but I always think he is a bit hard done by on here. He aint a bad boxer. Fielding vs Smigga after Fielding lost to Callum would have been seen as a good fight.

Yes, he should beat at least a decent domestic level fighter first, but its not like he did not embarrass himself against Abraham twice and Zeuge - yes, lost two of these decisively, but was competitive. Okay, we can forget about the Ward debacle.

ya, that really competitive 119-108 loss to a third rate belt holder destroyed by fielding and held to a draw by de carolas. seriously man! i dont know how you call that competitive.

and the aa rematch wasnt competitive imo. basically hes been living off that first aa fight, that he still lost, but has totally failed to get any positive result. he gets these opportunities because the other side knows there guy will win.

what are his three best wins?

i mean, people have gone on about guys like murray getting repeated shots, but murray actually drew with sturm, very arguably beat martinez, and only lost a split to abraham. smith just has that one aa fight he lost, and nothing else. was totally outclassed even by a guy like zeague.

smiths situation deserves ridicule

You seem to forget that a few years earlier he would have handled that Zeuge kid, it was just age, he could see the openings and not do anything about it. A problem in fact he had his entire career.

dazzler wrote: ↑07 Aug 2018, 11:03

Flump wrote: ↑07 Aug 2018, 08:10

jamamb wrote: ↑06 Aug 2018, 11:19

ya, that really competitive 119-108 loss to a third rate belt holder destroyed by fielding and held to a draw by de carolas. seriously man! i dont know how you call that competitive.

and the aa rematch wasnt competitive imo. basically hes been living off that first aa fight, that he still lost, but has totally failed to get any positive result. he gets these opportunities because the other side knows there guy will win.

what are his three best wins?

i mean, people have gone on about guys like murray getting repeated shots, but murray actually drew with sturm, very arguably beat martinez, and only lost a split to abraham. smith just has that one aa fight he lost, and nothing else. was totally outclassed even by a guy like zeague.

smiths situation deserves ridicule

You seem to forget that a few years earlier he would have handled that Zeuge kid, it was just age, he could see the openings and not do anything about it. A problem in fact he had his entire career.

How do you know he could see the openings? Did he have laser vision?

Counter-puncher wrote: ↑07 Aug 2018, 04:37

TheGoods wrote: ↑07 Aug 2018, 00:40
“The plan is to do features in several major publications detailing the reasons for my retirement, then announce a return to the ring less than 12 week’s later for another world title fight. Hopefully in the three months I’ve been away I will have secured a top 15 rating with a major sanctioning body, despite the fact I’ve just been sat around at home in my duds eating Doritos and watching Love Island.”

bripez wrote: ↑07 Aug 2018, 08:46

Flump wrote: ↑07 Aug 2018, 08:10

jamamb wrote: ↑06 Aug 2018, 11:19

ya, that really competitive 119-108 loss to a third rate belt holder destroyed by fielding and held to a draw by de carolas. seriously man! i dont know how you call that competitive.

and the aa rematch wasnt competitive imo. basically hes been living off that first aa fight, that he still lost, but has totally failed to get any positive result. he gets these opportunities because the other side knows there guy will win.

what are his three best wins?

i mean, people have gone on about guys like murray getting repeated shots, but murray actually drew with sturm, very arguably beat martinez, and only lost a split to abraham. smith just has that one aa fight he lost, and nothing else. was totally outclassed even by a guy like zeague.

smiths situation deserves ridicule

You seem to forget that a few years earlier he would have handled that Zeuge kid, it was just age, he could see the openings and not do anything about it. A problem in fact he had his entire career.

Don't start that mate - Smigga will start campaigning the WBA to award him a retrospective world title on the basis that he would have deffo beat the bloke if he was 10 years younger.

Seems reasonable to me

skanksta wrote: ↑07 Aug 2018, 12:00

bripez wrote: ↑07 Aug 2018, 08:46

Flump wrote: ↑07 Aug 2018, 08:10

You seem to forget that a few years earlier he would have handled that Zeuge kid, it was just age, he could see the openings and not do anything about it. A problem in fact he had his entire career.

Don't start that mate - Smigga will start campaigning the WBA to award him a retrospective world title on the basis that he would have deffo beat the bloke if he was 10 years younger.

Seems reasonable to me

I get all the ridicule - I really do. Smigga doesn't help himself with his announcements either, but..
For ONCE boxing is being very kind, generous and forgiving to an ageing fighter instead of brutally throwing him on the scrapheap without a final payday or goodbye.

Good luck to him.

Stuarty wrote: ↑07 Aug 2018, 12:04

skanksta wrote: ↑07 Aug 2018, 12:00

bripez wrote: ↑07 Aug 2018, 08:46

Don't start that mate - Smigga will start campaigning the WBA to award him a retrospective world title on the basis that he would have deffo beat the bloke if he was 10 years younger.

Seems reasonable to me

I get all the ridicule - I really do. Smigga doesn't help himself with his announcements either, but..
For ONCE boxing is being very kind, generous and forgiving to an ageing fighter instead of brutally throwing him on the scrapheap without a final payday or goodbye.

Good luck to him.

I hope if it happens he gets ko'd in the first round then his Mrs washes his trousers he wore to the arena when he gets home and they trousers have his wages cheque in them and Hearn refuses to write him another

dazzler wrote: ↑07 Aug 2018, 11:03

Flump wrote: ↑07 Aug 2018, 08:10

jamamb wrote: ↑06 Aug 2018, 11:19

ya, that really competitive 119-108 loss to a third rate belt holder destroyed by fielding and held to a draw by de carolas. seriously man! i dont know how you call that competitive.

and the aa rematch wasnt competitive imo. basically hes been living off that first aa fight, that he still lost, but has totally failed to get any positive result. he gets these opportunities because the other side knows there guy will win.

what are his three best wins?

i mean, people have gone on about guys like murray getting repeated shots, but murray actually drew with sturm, very arguably beat martinez, and only lost a split to abraham. smith just has that one aa fight he lost, and nothing else. was totally outclassed even by a guy like zeague.

smiths situation deserves ridicule

You seem to forget that a few years earlier he would have handled that Zeuge kid, it was just age, he could see the openings and not do anything about it. A problem in fact he had his entire career.

How do you know he could see the openings? Did he have laser vision?

Flump wrote: ↑07 Aug 2018, 14:15

dazzler wrote: ↑07 Aug 2018, 11:03

Flump wrote: ↑07 Aug 2018, 08:10

You seem to forget that a few years earlier he would have handled that Zeuge kid, it was just age, he could see the openings and not do anything about it. A problem in fact he had his entire career.

How do you know he could see the openings? Did he have laser vision?

I know dazzler, because the man said so.

Stuarty wrote: ↑07 Aug 2018, 14:45

Flump wrote: ↑07 Aug 2018, 14:15

dazzler wrote: ↑07 Aug 2018, 11:03

How do you know he could see the openings? Did he have laser vision?

I know dazzler, because the man said so.