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Re: Will Wilder vs Tyson Fury happen or not?

Posted: 15 Aug 2018, 16:09
by KiwiRider
To all those who said;
" He will never drop the weight"
" The lure of the Kebab is strong"
Image
We will see at weighin where he is at, but looking good right now :OhYes:

Re: Will Wilder vs Tyson Fury happen or not?

Posted: 15 Aug 2018, 22:57
by TooMuch
What's with him wearing short shorts in recent pictures?

Re: Will Wilder vs Tyson Fury happen or not?

Posted: 15 Aug 2018, 23:25
by Nightmare Roy
KiwiRider wrote: 15 Aug 2018, 16:09 To all those who said;
" He will never drop the weight"
" The lure of the Kebab is strong"
Image
We will see at weighin where he is at, but looking good right now :OhYes:
If the guy can loose 10 stone or what ever it is, I'm sure he can get rid of another 1 or 2, I think he's serious about Wilder now, at first I wasn't sure but I think he means business. If he gets that WBC belt Hearn will have to give him 50% to fight AJ. If he loses he just came back too quick and can start all over, it makes sense.

Re: Will Wilder vs Tyson Fury happen or not?

Posted: 16 Aug 2018, 00:33
by KiwiRider
TooMuch wrote: 15 Aug 2018, 22:57 What's with him wearing short shorts in recent pictures?
They might just be normal shorts for those under 6'.

Re: Will Wilder vs Tyson Fury happen or not?

Posted: 16 Aug 2018, 08:39
by SenorPipino
They look normal to me.

Professional basketball shorts before players went all hip-hop and started wearing shorts that look more like dresses.

Re: Will Wilder vs Tyson Fury happen or not?

Posted: 16 Aug 2018, 08:55
by tiny_acres
KiwiRider wrote: 15 Aug 2018, 16:09 To all those who said;
" He will never drop the weight"
" The lure of the Kebab is strong"
Image
We will see at weighin where he is at, but looking good right now :OhYes:
Unbelievable transformation from a year ago

Re: Will Wilder vs Tyson Fury happen or not?

Posted: 16 Aug 2018, 22:16
by Wales
TooMuch wrote: 15 Aug 2018, 22:57 What's with him wearing short shorts in recent pictures?
Always does in open workouts recently

God knows he’s , well, different

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/boxing/t ... t-13009676

Re: Will Wilder vs Tyson Fury happen or not?

Posted: 17 Aug 2018, 03:09
by Wa1nuts
If he wins on Saturday they will confirm the fight is signed in the ring I rekon

Re: Will Wilder vs Tyson Fury happen or not?

Posted: 17 Aug 2018, 07:14
by Quantrax
This fight seems to be really close and team AJ must be kicking themselves.

Re: Will Wilder vs Tyson Fury happen or not?

Posted: 18 Aug 2018, 19:50
by Best Coast
Promoter Warren said in today's post-fight interview that Wilder-Fury is definitely on and that an announcement will be made on date and venue next week.

Re: Will Wilder vs Tyson Fury happen or not?

Posted: 21 Aug 2018, 07:26
by kych
Wllder came to Belfast to sign the contact. It's a done deal. Much money is involved. :wave:

Re: Will Wilder vs Tyson Fury happen or not?

Posted: 21 Aug 2018, 07:53
by jamamb
how much money bruh

Re: Will Wilder vs Tyson Fury happen or not?

Posted: 21 Aug 2018, 08:07
by kych
Not 50 Mil ! :OhYes:

Re: Will Wilder vs Tyson Fury happen or not?

Posted: 21 Aug 2018, 08:31
by Enlightened-One
jamamb wrote: 21 Aug 2018, 07:53 how much money bruh
The rumour mill is suggesting that it's a 50-50 purse split with both fighters expecting to receive in the region of $15m.

I've read this from multiple "sources" (from so-called "insiders), so I don't know how accurate this assessment is, but the numbers being quoted do appear to be realistically achievable (based on the expectations of the PPV figures from both UK and US viewing audiences).

Coincidentally, Deontay Wilder stated that he rejected a $15m flat fee offer to face Anthony Joshua, so make of that what you will.

Re: Will Wilder vs Tyson Fury happen or not?

Posted: 21 Aug 2018, 08:50
by candyslim
Quantrax wrote: 17 Aug 2018, 07:14 This fight seems to be really close and team AJ must be kicking themselves.
It worries me that giving the finger to AJ and Hearn seems to have assumed a far greater importance to Fury and Fwank than it should do. The focus - to the exclusion of everything else - should be on what is best for Tyson Fury.

If he loses he has given away his status as the 'lineal champion' and if and when he finally gets back to 2015 level Tyson as opposed to 2015 size Tyson, then Deontay is not going to be interested in a rematch. You'll be hearing "Fury aint nuthin' I already beat his ass in three rounds why should I want to to do it again?".

No doubt there's a good pay-day but can it really be bigger than fighting AJ at Wembley on PPV in front of 90k+ people?

Joshua wants to fight him when he is ready, not now when he will brush him aside with ease. How marketable will Fury be if he has a KO loss to Wilder compared to a points win over say for example, Andy Ruiz and Dillian White ?

Re: Will Wilder vs Tyson Fury happen or not?

Posted: 21 Aug 2018, 12:06
by dickbelden
Enlightened-One wrote: 21 Aug 2018, 08:31
jamamb wrote: 21 Aug 2018, 07:53 how much money bruh
The rumour mill is suggesting that it's a 50-50 purse split with both fighters expecting to receive in the region of $15m.

I've read this from multiple "sources" (from so-called "insiders), so I don't know how accurate this assessment is, but the numbers being quoted do appear to be realistically achievable (based on the expectations of the PPV figures from both UK and US viewing audiences).

Coincidentally, Deontay Wilder stated that he rejected a $15m flat fee offer to face Anthony Joshua, so make of that what you will.
forbes says CANELO got $42mil & GGG got $18mil for their 1st fight(70-30 split). the fight did 1.3mil north american PPVs---so for FURY vs WILDER to split a $30mil fighters' pot the fight would probably have to do at least 650k PPVs.

Re: Will Wilder vs Tyson Fury happen or not?

Posted: 21 Aug 2018, 16:39
by Enlightened-One
dickbelden wrote: 21 Aug 2018, 12:06
Enlightened-One wrote: 21 Aug 2018, 08:31
jamamb wrote: 21 Aug 2018, 07:53 how much money bruh
The rumour mill is suggesting that it's a 50-50 purse split with both fighters expecting to receive in the region of $15m.

I've read this from multiple "sources" (from so-called "insiders), so I don't know how accurate this assessment is, but the numbers being quoted do appear to be realistically achievable (based on the expectations of the PPV figures from both UK and US viewing audiences).

Coincidentally, Deontay Wilder stated that he rejected a $15m flat fee offer to face Anthony Joshua, so make of that what you will.
forbes says CANELO got $42mil & GGG got $18mil for their 1st fight(70-30 split). the fight did 1.3mil north american PPVs---so for FURY vs WILDER to split a $30mil fighters' pot the fight would probably have to do at least 650k PPVs.
We're talking about the combined PPV revenue that will be generated from both the UK and the US territories.

The first GGG-Canelo bout wasn't a PPV in the UK.

The PPV buys for the GGG-Canelo bout were also cannibalised by the MayMac freak show, so the numbers were lower than they would have been under typical conditions.

Finally, unlike Canelo and GGG, Fury and Wilder actually speak good English and are big characters, which means they'll do a far better job at generating hype aimed at selling the event than their middleweight counterparts.

Re: Will Wilder vs Tyson Fury happen or not?

Posted: 23 Aug 2018, 20:08
by ewenhay
Enlightened-One wrote: 21 Aug 2018, 16:39
dickbelden wrote: 21 Aug 2018, 12:06
Enlightened-One wrote: 21 Aug 2018, 08:31
The rumour mill is suggesting that it's a 50-50 purse split with both fighters expecting to receive in the region of $15m.

I've read this from multiple "sources" (from so-called "insiders), so I don't know how accurate this assessment is, but the numbers being quoted do appear to be realistically achievable (based on the expectations of the PPV figures from both UK and US viewing audiences).

Coincidentally, Deontay Wilder stated that he rejected a $15m flat fee offer to face Anthony Joshua, so make of that what you will.
forbes says CANELO got $42mil & GGG got $18mil for their 1st fight(70-30 split). the fight did 1.3mil north american PPVs---so for FURY vs WILDER to split a $30mil fighters' pot the fight would probably have to do at least 650k PPVs.
We're talking about the combined PPV revenue that will be generated from both the UK and the US territories.

The first GGG-Canelo bout wasn't a PPV in the UK.

The PPV buys for the GGG-Canelo bout were also cannibalised by the MayMac freak show, so the numbers were lower than they would have been under typical conditions.

Finally, unlike Canelo and GGG, Fury and Wilder actually speak good English and are big characters, which means they'll do a far better job at generating hype aimed at selling the event than their middleweight counterparts.
So in other words you have absolutely no idea.

A bit like when you used "facts" to try to persuade everyone in over 10000 words that Golovkin would get no more than 35% in the Alvarez rematch.

Or when you used "facts" to blame Golovkin and his promoter for not having an equitable opponent once Alvarez failed his drug test.

Or when you used "facts" to tell us that Wilder will get an extra 10 million dollars to fight Joshua if he beats Fury.

This is going to be really difficult for you to accept but not everything people say in the media is fact.

Re: Will Wilder vs Tyson Fury happen or not?

Posted: 23 Aug 2018, 20:51
by Evander
Where is the official venue and what is the date for this fight ?

Re: Will Wilder vs Tyson Fury happen or not?

Posted: 24 Aug 2018, 00:28
by Enlightened-One
ewenhay wrote: 23 Aug 2018, 20:08
Enlightened-One wrote: 21 Aug 2018, 16:39
dickbelden wrote: 21 Aug 2018, 12:06

forbes says CANELO got $42mil & GGG got $18mil for their 1st fight(70-30 split). the fight did 1.3mil north american PPVs---so for FURY vs WILDER to split a $30mil fighters' pot the fight would probably have to do at least 650k PPVs.
We're talking about the combined PPV revenue that will be generated from both the UK and the US territories.

The first GGG-Canelo bout wasn't a PPV in the UK.

The PPV buys for the GGG-Canelo bout were also cannibalised by the MayMac freak show, so the numbers were lower than they would have been under typical conditions.

Finally, unlike Canelo and GGG, Fury and Wilder actually speak good English and are big characters, which means they'll do a far better job at generating hype aimed at selling the event than their middleweight counterparts.
So in other words you have absolutely no idea.

A bit like when you used "facts" to try to persuade everyone in over 10000 words that Golovkin would get no more than 35% in the Alvarez rematch.

Or when you used "facts" to blame Golovkin and his promoter for not having an equitable opponent once Alvarez failed his drug test.

Or when you used "facts" to tell us that Wilder will get an extra 10 million dollars to fight Joshua if he beats Fury.

This is going to be really difficult for you to accept but not everything people say in the media is fact.
It's taken you three days to respond to this post. Strange.

Quote my precise words for each claim you think I made and I'll defend them accordingly in their true context.

I won't defend a misrepresented version of my words.

Also, the context of people's opinions matter, because their words are usually articulated based on the information that is available at the time they wrote them. So if the situation changes and new information comes to light, then they're allowed to revise those aforementioned opinions.

I'll give you an example, you'll be able to accurately claim that I once thought that Sergey Kovalev was the best light heavyweight on the planet, but time isn't stationary and neither are opinions.

So let's see what you can do, shall we?

Re: Will Wilder vs Tyson Fury happen or not?

Posted: 24 Aug 2018, 01:33
by jamamb
is 3 days that long?

Re: Will Wilder vs Tyson Fury happen or not?

Posted: 24 Aug 2018, 06:01
by Enlightened-One
jamamb wrote: 24 Aug 2018, 01:33 is 3 days that long?
Today (in quick succession), ewenhay challenged me twice by quoting two posts of mine that were 3 days old and 28 days old respectively.

On the two separate topics that he has just challenged on, whilst also attempting to insult me, it was the first time he’d ever submitted his thoughts to both threads.

He has separately contributed to other threads several times (every day) over the last four days. So why wait?

I’ll give you an example to clarify his actions:

• On the 26th July, the "Just How Good Is Oleksandr Usyk?" thread was created.
• A day later, I expressed my own opinions on the matter
• Today, 28 days later, ewenhay challenges me on my thoughts, claiming that I’d written something ludicrous (after never previously commenting on this topic)

He's done the very same thing here also, but rather than waiting 28 days, he challenged one of my thoughts that were three days old.

He wants to start an argument and is looking for opportunities by searching through my old posts to do so.

Is that not strange? He's either stalking or trolling me... or a combination of both! :lol:

Imagine if I started looking through your old posting history and suddenly started quoting and aggressively challenging stuff you'd written quite a while ago, whilst also dishing out the odd insult or two?

Re: Will Wilder vs Tyson Fury happen or not?

Posted: 25 Aug 2018, 08:34
by SenorPipino
astradamus wrote: 25 Aug 2018, 08:13 I just heard a rumor that Wilder his team is planning to schedule the fight for 3 november!
3 november? That early? Yup, and for some odd reason Dan Rafael now claims that Tyson Fury is now suddenly the one causing problems with the contract.
If Warren doesn't announce an official signing by the end of the weekend, then it's unlikely to happen.

I don't think the bout suddenly evaporating would surprise many real fans.

Plenty believe that even if it's inked, Fury will pull out weeks before it's scheduled to happen.

Re: Will Wilder vs Tyson Fury happen or not?

Posted: 25 Aug 2018, 10:45
by dickbelden
rumor is that FURY has cold feet.---RAFAEL says both BARCLAYS & VEGAS r bidding to b the site. FURY to get 50%.

Re: Will Wilder vs Tyson Fury happen or not?

Posted: 25 Aug 2018, 11:51
by SenorPipino
Heavyweight division is populated by flakes.