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Re: I'm starting to think Dillian Whyte can beat Anthony Joshua

Posted: 08 Aug 2018, 14:09
by Thomastearns
Let's not also forget that Whyte v Parker had many shaking their heads asking why. The argument was that neither of them had to make that fight but they both did without too much fuss or fanfare. Much like a throwback to days of yore.

Dillian Whyte now finds himself remaining in an awkward position on the sidelines waiting for the Joshua/Wilder (+Fury?) situation to sort itself out.

I guess if Wilder v Joshua can't be made, he could step in with full backing from Hearn but that's unlikely to happen. There will be just be too much money riding on that fight for it to not happen April 2019.

What to do in the meantime? A Parker rematch on PPV might well be his best move to work around the traffic jam in the division.

Re: I'm starting to think Dillian Whyte can beat Anthony Joshua

Posted: 08 Aug 2018, 15:41
by SenorPipino
RKY wrote: 08 Aug 2018, 12:39
SenorPipino wrote: 07 Aug 2018, 12:34
tiny_acres wrote: 07 Aug 2018, 12:27 Drugs are bad
:OhYes:

The battered guy who barely survived the final 2 rounds against a lethargic Parker, certainly didn't look like any threat to depose a heavyweight champion.

Once Whyte gasses, he's gone.

Depose a heavyweight champion.... he just baet Parker who was wbo champ until his last outing.

He also beat Parker in better fashion than AJ did, flooring him with an incredibke hook.

Whyte has improved massively since his furst fight with AJ but more importantly his phsyiqye and muscle mass has came on leaps and bounds.

Whyte is the best heavyweight in the world and if he fights AJ again he will knock him out
Parker WAS a paper champion. No one took his claim to the heavyweight title seriously.

And Parker was NOT any form of a heavyweight champion when he fought Whyte. Ex-belt holder.

So Whyte didn't depose any titleholder in beating the uninspired Parker.

And of course the erroneously called head butt "knockdown" cost Parker a draw.

His current physique and muscle mass is irrelevant. It doesn't improve your skill.

There's nothing exceptional about Whyte. He would not last 7 against either of the heavyweight champions.

Unless that "champion" is named Charr.

Re: I'm starting to think Dillian Whyte can beat Anthony Joshua

Posted: 09 Aug 2018, 01:06
by Lackeos
Thomastearns wrote: 08 Aug 2018, 14:09 Dillian Whyte now finds himself remaining in an awkward position on the sidelines waiting for the Joshua/Wilder (+Fury?) situation to sort itself out.
There was a thread about Whyte wanting to challenge the WBA title against the Charr / Oquendo winner.

Re: I'm starting to think Dillian Whyte can beat Anthony Joshua

Posted: 09 Aug 2018, 08:08
by danconnollyeire
dagilechia wrote: 08 Aug 2018, 11:44 Remember that meldonium was legal at the time he used it. They banned it without proper testing on how meldonium works and how much it stays in organism. Povetkin is a olympic gold medalist he beaten good opponents before his "doping" issue

Its boxing, now compare how was treated Povetkin and how Canelo. It's business. I liked Povetkin before his doping affair, he is a skillful fighter and no one can deny that.
He beat literally no one of note before the doping scandal

Re: I'm starting to think Dillian Whyte can beat Anthony Joshua

Posted: 09 Aug 2018, 08:33
by dagilechia
danconnollyeire wrote: 09 Aug 2018, 08:08
dagilechia wrote: 08 Aug 2018, 11:44 Remember that meldonium was legal at the time he used it. They banned it without proper testing on how meldonium works and how much it stays in organism. Povetkin is a olympic gold medalist he beaten good opponents before his "doping" issue

Its boxing, now compare how was treated Povetkin and how Canelo. It's business. I liked Povetkin before his doping affair, he is a skillful fighter and no one can deny that.
He beat literally no one of note before the doping scandal
Pre-Klitschko loss era he beaten Byrd, Chambers, Chagaev among others - sounds good especially in this era, it was hard to find a lot of fighters with better wins at that time

Re: I'm starting to think Dillian Whyte can beat Anthony Joshua

Posted: 09 Aug 2018, 10:45
by Ricky
SenorPipino wrote: 08 Aug 2018, 15:41
RKY wrote: 08 Aug 2018, 12:39
SenorPipino wrote: 07 Aug 2018, 12:34

:OhYes:

The battered guy who barely survived the final 2 rounds against a lethargic Parker, certainly didn't look like any threat to depose a heavyweight champion.

Once Whyte gasses, he's gone.

Depose a heavyweight champion.... he just baet Parker who was wbo champ until his last outing.

He also beat Parker in better fashion than AJ did, flooring him with an incredibke hook.

Whyte has improved massively since his furst fight with AJ but more importantly his phsyiqye and muscle mass has came on leaps and bounds.

Whyte is the best heavyweight in the world and if he fights AJ again he will knock him out
Parker WAS a paper champion. No one took his claim to the heavyweight title seriously.

And Parker was NOT any form of a heavyweight champion when he fought Whyte. Ex-belt holder.

So Whyte didn't depose any titleholder in beating the uninspired Parker.

And of course the erroneously called head butt "knockdown" cost Parker a draw.

His current physique and muscle mass is irrelevant. It doesn't improve your skill.

There's nothing exceptional about Whyte. He would not last 7 against either of the heavyweight champions.

Unless that "champion" is named Charr.

Whyte's improved physique and athletic ability is irrelevant :lol:

Re: I'm starting to think Dillian Whyte can beat Anthony Joshua

Posted: 09 Aug 2018, 16:34
by fanman
i didnt see whytes full last couple of fights.
but he was a rough, hearty brawler. now hes added the modern weights / diet thing and is more musclebound. he might just have the style to beat the top guys. albeit entering as an underdog.

Re: I'm starting to think Dillian Whyte can beat Anthony Joshua

Posted: 10 Aug 2018, 05:51
by danconnollyeire
dagilechia wrote: 09 Aug 2018, 08:33
danconnollyeire wrote: 09 Aug 2018, 08:08
dagilechia wrote: 08 Aug 2018, 11:44 Remember that meldonium was legal at the time he used it. They banned it without proper testing on how meldonium works and how much it stays in organism. Povetkin is a olympic gold medalist he beaten good opponents before his "doping" issue

Its boxing, now compare how was treated Povetkin and how Canelo. It's business. I liked Povetkin before his doping affair, he is a skillful fighter and no one can deny that.
He beat literally no one of note before the doping scandal
Pre-Klitschko loss era he beaten Byrd, Chambers, Chagaev among others - sounds good especially in this era, it was hard to find a lot of fighters with better wins at that time

What? A former Light Heavy, a cruiser and a slow bum? Pre-Kilt he fought Andrzej Wawrzyk (who?), Hasim Rahman (very past it), Marco Huck (average cruiser), Cedric Boswell (lol). Post-Klit he all of a sudden turned in to a monster (I wonder why?)

I hope AJ destroys the pudendum

Re: I'm starting to think Dillian Whyte can beat Anthony Joshua

Posted: 10 Aug 2018, 06:09
by dagilechia
danconnollyeire wrote: 10 Aug 2018, 05:51
dagilechia wrote: 09 Aug 2018, 08:33
danconnollyeire wrote: 09 Aug 2018, 08:08

He beat literally no one of note before the doping scandal
Pre-Klitschko loss era he beaten Byrd, Chambers, Chagaev among others - sounds good especially in this era, it was hard to find a lot of fighters with better wins at that time

What? A former Light Heavy, a cruiser and a slow bum? Pre-Kilt he fought Andrzej Wawrzyk (who?), Hasim Rahman (very past it), Marco Huck (average cruiser), Cedric Boswell (lol). Post-Klit he all of a sudden turned in to a monster (I wonder why?)

I hope AJ destroys the pudendum
Can you mention any fighter (except Klitschkos) that had better resume at this time?

Re: I'm starting to think Dillian Whyte can beat Anthony Joshua

Posted: 10 Aug 2018, 09:33
by BigBenHo
SenorPipino wrote: 07 Aug 2018, 14:50
tiny_acres wrote: 07 Aug 2018, 14:01
SenorPipino wrote: 07 Aug 2018, 12:34

:OhYes:

The battered guy who barely survived the final 2 rounds against a lethargic Parker, certainly didn't look like any threat to depose a heavyweight champion.

Once Whyte gasses, he's gone.
Yes sir. Whyte is not in the top tier of the division.
For some reason Whyte seems to have a substantial amount of cult worshippers who feels he's an elite, P4P force.

I never see it. Top 10 but hardly a special fighter.
Yes Whyte is over rated because he is Hearns number 2 HW, and all the Hearn riders believe all the hype.

He couldnt stop an alcoholic Hellenius who turned up to lose. He lost a UD to a shot Chisora but got the W somehow. He beat up a post steroids Obese Bogan, who was knocked out in sparring 7 days before the fight. These 3 fights are somehow meant to show he is now up to challenging Femi? Do me a favour.

Whyte is top 10 yes, but towards the bottom of the top 10.

Re: I'm starting to think Dillian Whyte can beat Anthony Joshua

Posted: 10 Aug 2018, 17:04
by candyslim
danconnollyeire wrote: 08 Aug 2018, 06:49
tiny_acres wrote: 07 Aug 2018, 14:01

Yes sir. Whyte is not in the top tier of the division.
I mean, he definitely is, he beat Parker but he would get beat by Wilder and AJ without any major issues
I agree with you but I'm not sure Deontay does. I'd like to think Wilder isn't scared shitless of Whyte, but he sure does seem willing to turn down some mighty impressive purse offers rather than face him, and you have to wonder why when he's making half or a third against people like Ortiz.

White clearly is top 6 but he isn't a genuinely impressive fighter. What he is though is a fearless warrior who will take on anyone if the money is right and for that he deserves the respect of anyone who claims to be a fight-fan.

Wilder might have a lot more talent but in my eyes he can't hold a candle to Dillian White even if he would be favoured to knock him out.

Re: I'm starting to think Dillian Whyte can beat Anthony Joshua

Posted: 03 Jun 2019, 12:51
by Ricky
Boxerbeetle wrote: 08 Aug 2018, 13:24 Terrible post.
:verysad:

Re: I'm starting to think Dillian Whyte can beat Anthony Joshua

Posted: 03 Jun 2019, 12:56
by Boxerbeetle
Ricky wrote: 03 Jun 2019, 12:51:verysad:
“Whyte is the best heavyweight in the world”

Yeah, terrible post.

Re: I'm starting to think Dillian Whyte can beat Anthony Joshua

Posted: 03 Jun 2019, 12:59
by Ricky
Boxerbeetle wrote: 03 Jun 2019, 12:56 “Whyte is the best heavyweight in the world”

Yeah, terrible post.
Not as terrible as the hoardes of diddys on the AJ bandwagon. We'll see how Whyte does when he finally gets his shot. Expect him to make short work of Rivas next time out.

Re: I'm starting to think Dillian Whyte can beat Anthony Joshua

Posted: 03 Jun 2019, 13:02
by Boxerbeetle
Ricky wrote: 03 Jun 2019, 12:59 Not as terrible as the hoardes of diddys on the AJ bandwagon. We'll see how Whyte does when he finally gets his shot. Expect him to make short work of Rivas next time out.
Do you really think he’d stand a chance against Fury? I think Tyson would clown him tbh.

Re: I'm starting to think Dillian Whyte can beat Anthony Joshua

Posted: 03 Jun 2019, 13:04
by dagilechia
Dillian Whyte was never as good as Ruiz was in this fight. Ruiz's so quick, his punches were hard and he's also a a volume puncher. I underestimated him so much before this fight (but to be fair i have seen only 3 of his fights before) but now i would favour him over Whyte no doubt. Whyte's overrated.

Re: I'm starting to think Dillian Whyte can beat Anthony Joshua

Posted: 03 Jun 2019, 13:04
by dagilechia
Boxerbeetle wrote: 03 Jun 2019, 13:02 Do you really think he’d stand a chance against Fury? I think Tyson would clown him tbh.
120-108 type of fight

Re: I'm starting to think Dillian Whyte can beat Anthony Joshua

Posted: 03 Jun 2019, 13:09
by Ricky
Boxerbeetle wrote: 03 Jun 2019, 13:02 Do you really think he’d stand a chance against Fury? I think Tyson would clown him tbh.
Fury is ridiculously overrated, his output is utterly woeful and he couldn't punch his way out of a paper bag. I must be one of the few folks wholly unimpressed by his performances against Klitchko & Wilder - he did nothing but stink the fvcking joint out. He is a tricky cat to face though given how much running away he does, which always seems to impress judges. That been said, he still gets caught. Whyte would bring the fight to Fury of every second of every round, Fury doesn't hit hard enough to keep him off. Whyte throws hellacious looping overhands, which is exactly the shot that Cunningham laid Fury on his back with. Fury has never faced a body puncher like Whyte either. Remember, this guy got outboxed by McMuffin.

Re: I'm starting to think Dillian Whyte can beat Anthony Joshua

Posted: 03 Jun 2019, 13:10
by Ricky
dagilechia wrote: 03 Jun 2019, 13:04 Dillian Whyte was never as good as Ruiz was in this fight. Ruiz's so quick, his punches were hard and he's also a a volume puncher. I underestimated him so much before this fight (but to be fair i have seen only 3 of his fights before) but now i would favour him over Whyte no doubt. Whyte's overrated.
Whyte vs Ruiz is a good fight. I pick Whyte.

Re: I'm starting to think Dillian Whyte can beat Anthony Joshua

Posted: 03 Jun 2019, 13:17
by Thomastearns
Its great to see this thread resurrected in light of what's just happened. Whyte's response won't help improve relations either.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.expres ... uiz-Jr/amp

The AJ - Ruiz postmortem conclusions should be interesting. Of course Dhillian Whyte could beat Anthony Joshua - this is heavyweight boxing.

If they fought 10 ten times I'd expect Whyte to win at least 4. Why wouldn't he? In any case we'll soon find out how much he's improved as Rivas is no pushover either (is any top 10 heavyweight?).

He just can't allow himself to gas out the way again he did against Parker. That was as close a fight as you can get.

Re: I'm starting to think Dillian Whyte can beat Anthony Joshua

Posted: 03 Jun 2019, 13:41
by Boxerbeetle
Ricky wrote: 03 Jun 2019, 13:09 Fury is ridiculously overrated, his output is utterly woeful and he couldn't punch his way out of a paper bag. I must be one of the few folks wholly unimpressed by his performances against Klitchko & Wilder - he did nothing but stink the fvcking joint out. He is a tricky cat to face though given how much running away he does, which always seems to impress judges. That been said, he still gets caught. Whyte would bring the fight to Fury of every second of every round, Fury doesn't hit hard enough to keep him off. Whyte throws hellacious looping overhands, which is exactly the shot that Cunningham laid Fury on his back with. Fury has never faced a body puncher like Whyte either. Remember, this guy got outboxed by McMuffin.
I share a lot of your feelings about Fury, he’s super-negative and total sh!t to watch. But he’s an absolute nightmare for someone like Whyte.

Re: I'm starting to think Dillian Whyte can beat Anthony Joshua

Posted: 03 Jun 2019, 15:30
by candyslim
Yes I agree BB.

Re: I'm starting to think Dillian Whyte can beat Anthony Joshua

Posted: 03 Jun 2019, 15:32
by Ruthless-RKO
Whyte gasses just as much as AJ.

Would be a fun fight.

People go on like they fought last year. It was nearly 4 years ago.

Whyte has fought around 7-8 times? And AJ has also fought many times since.

Re: I'm starting to think Dillian Whyte can beat Anthony Joshua

Posted: 03 Jun 2019, 15:33
by oogiebe
If AJ's right, he KO's Whyte again.

Re: I'm starting to think Dillian Whyte can beat Anthony Joshua

Posted: 03 Jun 2019, 15:44
by DrDuke
Still AJ.