jamamb wrote: ↑09 Aug 2018, 17:29
you need to go to more gyms if you believe boxers no longer circle around etc. and a lot of what goes on at press sessions is largely for show
dempsey seems to be having a grand time on that bag
what a lot of guys do now is they throw pity pat punches. nobody ever gets follow through on the bag.
How 'bout that! ... (I must be the only one left) ... ...
nah not at all, ive regularly been to several gyms around and pitty pattering is the exception, a lot of the pitty pattering is just show for the cameras, for some reason its considered flashy. also it seems to be a bigger thing with african american fighters for some reason, maybe because floyd was seen by so many doing it
Re: Walk Like A Boxer
Posted: 22 Aug 2018, 20:12
by Yuzo
my thinking is, when your bag is not moving, i mean really swaying, you are throwing pity pat punches.
follow through is what really gets a bag moving and most guys wont go all the way through.
Re: Walk Like A Boxer
Posted: 23 Aug 2018, 14:35
by Caractacus
maybe they can not just muster the power like the old tymers use to do.
have you watched Olympic Boxing in the last 25 years ?
they look like 'slap- fests".
Re: Walk Like A Boxer
Posted: 23 Aug 2018, 15:33
by gilgamesh
Re: Walk Like A Boxer
Posted: 24 Aug 2018, 05:41
by HomicideHenry
I pretty much agree with the article.
No offense to the guys around today, they are good, some even damn good, but I can't necessarily call them great let alone one of the greatest.
I blame the system, partially. I also blame the trainers. What the hell is this "meeting the talent halfway" when doing the pads? What the hell is this wearing large gloves when hitting the heavy bag? What the hell is this nutrition crap and emphasis on weight training? And above all else what is with this extreme inactivity in the ring bullshit (once or twice a year)?
I'll be honest, I'm more intimidated by the speed orientated guys than I am the incredible hulk types. Behemoths you can hit all night long, and escape all night long. Speedsters, though, is like trying to hit a fly with a BB gun. It's frustrating as hell, and truth be told the punches from the speedy guys who are loose (imho) hurt worse because EVERYTHING is going into it, and you don't see it coming, besides the fact that there's that educated SNAP at the end of the shot. Muscleheads punches feel more like a THUD and while they are uncomfortable, it's not exactly breathtaking unless YOU screw up walking into a shot.
Re: Walk Like A Boxer
Posted: 24 Aug 2018, 13:43
by APerno
Sidney Carton wrote: ↑09 Aug 2018, 17:16Jack Dempsey Hits Heavybag
Nice clip, thank you. -- Speaking from no experience: is the heavy bag usually (deliberately) hung at a height so as to discourage low blows? I was surprised at how high the bag was hung.
Re: Walk Like A Boxer
Posted: 24 Aug 2018, 13:51
by gilgamesh
HomicideHenry wrote: ↑24 Aug 2018, 05:41
I pretty much agree with the article.
No offense to the guys around today, they are good, some even damn good, but I can't necessarily call them great let alone one of the greatest.
I blame the system, partially. I also blame the trainers. What the hell is this "meeting the talent halfway" when doing the pads? What the hell is this wearing large gloves when hitting the heavy bag? What the hell is this nutrition crap and emphasis on weight training? And above all else what is with this extreme inactivity in the ring bullshit (once or twice a year)?
I'll be honest, I'm more intimidated by the speed orientated guys than I am the incredible hulk types. Behemoths you can hit all night long, and escape all night long. Speedsters, though, is like trying to hit a fly with a BB gun. It's frustrating as hell, and truth be told the punches from the speedy guys who are loose (imho) hurt worse because EVERYTHING is going into it, and you don't see it coming, besides the fact that there's that educated SNAP at the end of the shot. Muscleheads punches feel more like a THUD and while they are uncomfortable, it's not exactly breathtaking unless YOU screw up walking into a shot.
Yeah. Mostly in just plain regular fights, not Boxing matches, but I always found it easier to be able to fight a big, bulky guy than a quick, speedy guy for the reason you've stated.
You can't hardly catch the little f*ckers, and they tag you repeatedly. The big guys, they're easy to dodge, and easy to hit as you say.
Re: Walk Like A Boxer
Posted: 25 Aug 2018, 11:53
by Sequitorian
You can walk like a boxer ... or you can walk like this ... (brilliant) ... ...
Re: Walk Like A Boxer
Posted: 25 Aug 2018, 16:55
by APerno
Not a fighter but if we are to talk walking we should take moment and remember Edward Payson Weston.
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