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Re: Lewis v Klitschko II: Kiev exhibition rematch finally explained
Posted: 17 Aug 2018, 15:00
by HomicideHenry
He never rematched him DESPITE being offered over $30 million, which was unheard of money in those times... He wanted NO PART of Vitali, especially after he harpooned Kirk Johnson in two rounds.
Re: Lewis v Klitschko II: Kiev exhibition rematch finally explained
Posted: 17 Aug 2018, 17:07
by bigjack
HomicideHenry wrote: ↑17 Aug 2018, 15:00
He never rematched him DESPITE being offered over $30 million, which was unheard of money in those times... He wanted NO PART of Vitali, especially after he harpooned Kirk Johnson in two rounds.
Lewis was past his best by then and retired,he knew he was on the slide and could possibly lose the rematch so chose not too,however Vitali got his chance and failed,it's not like Lennox got lucky,he took all of Vitali's best shots and came from behind to win,simple as that
Re: Lewis v Klitschko II: Kiev exhibition rematch finally explained
Posted: 17 Aug 2018, 18:01
by HomicideHenry
Win? He was behind on all scorecards. He may have "won" but he didn't beat him. His refusal of a rematch when he said he would, was evidence enough.
Re: Lewis v Klitschko II: Kiev exhibition rematch finally explained
Posted: 17 Aug 2018, 18:28
by Punchy Joe
Lewis is just an average social player at chess, He wouldn’t even be good enough to beat a lower end club player.
I've seen some of his games, he plays like a poor central park hustler, truly awful. Vitali beat him easily before their first fight (At Chess that is lol).
Re: Lewis v Klitschko II: Kiev exhibition rematch finally explained
Posted: 18 Aug 2018, 05:35
by bigjack
HomicideHenry wrote: ↑17 Aug 2018, 18:01
Win? He was behind on all scorecards. He may have "won" but he didn't beat him. His refusal of a rematch when he said he would, was evidence enough.
'He may have won but he didn't beat him' ? so he lost then ? god some people are so bitter after all these years,i always though that in boxing the idea was to hit the other guy in the face or body and cause damage so he couldn't continue,maybe i got that wrong
Re: Lewis v Klitschko II: Kiev exhibition rematch finally explained
Posted: 18 Aug 2018, 06:15
by nitro5912
HomicideHenry wrote: ↑17 Aug 2018, 18:01
Win? He was behind on all scorecards. He may have "won" but he didn't beat him. His refusal of a rematch when he said he would, was evidence enough.
Win is the same as won.
If he took his best shots, was behind on the cards and still managed to produce the uppercut from hell and bust vitalis face wider than the grand canyon. I'd say he won the fight. Which means he did win the fight.
I guess Carl froch lost to Jermaine Taylor?
Re: Lewis v Klitschko II: Kiev exhibition rematch finally explained
Posted: 18 Aug 2018, 06:16
by jamamb
lewis vs klit might be the most rehashed fight of the last 20 years, how many times has there been this same f@cking argument
Re: Lewis v Klitschko II: Kiev exhibition rematch finally explained
Posted: 18 Aug 2018, 10:36
by bigjack
nitro5912 wrote: ↑18 Aug 2018, 06:15
HomicideHenry wrote: ↑17 Aug 2018, 18:01
Win? He was behind on all scorecards. He may have "won" but he didn't beat him. His refusal of a rematch when he said he would, was evidence enough.
Win is the same as won.
If he took his best shots, was behind on the cards and still managed to produce the uppercut from hell and bust vitalis face wider than the grand canyon. I'd say he won the fight. Which means he did win the fight.
I guess Carl froch lost to Jermaine Taylor?
Hot Chocolate will have to come up with a new title for their hit song ' you win again',maybe they could call it 'you win again,but you didn't win really,however it says win on my record' ,not sure it would catch on really
Re: Lewis v Klitschko II: Kiev exhibition rematch finally explained
Posted: 19 Aug 2018, 03:16
by Syntax Error
HomicideHenry wrote: ↑17 Aug 2018, 18:01
Win? He was behind on all scorecards. He may have "won" but he didn't beat him. His refusal of a rematch when he said he would, was evidence enough.
Have the Queensbury Rules been updated, whereby a fighter has to he ahead on the scorecards at the time he forces a stoppage too?
The refusal of a mythical rematch is a red herring & has nothing to do with the result of their actual fight.
Re: Lewis v Klitschko II: Kiev exhibition rematch finally explained
Posted: 19 Aug 2018, 03:19
by Covfefe
jamamb wrote: ↑18 Aug 2018, 06:16
lewis vs klit might be the most rehashed fight of the last 20 years, how many times has there been this same f@cking argument
Boring isn’t it.
Had it continued Vitali would have ended up damaged for life. That was as bad a cut as I’ve ever seen, not to mention he had cuts in his mouth too and was swallowing blood.
I don’t know what these supposed fans want.
Re: Lewis v Klitschko II: Kiev exhibition rematch finally explained
Posted: 19 Aug 2018, 03:22
by jamamb
ya i dont understand how so many people think otherwise, the mans face was falling off and the tide had clearly turned
Re: Lewis v Klitschko II: Kiev exhibition rematch finally explained
Posted: 19 Aug 2018, 03:29
by Covfefe
jamamb wrote: ↑19 Aug 2018, 03:22
ya i dont understand how so many people think otherwise, the mans face was falling off and the tide had clearly turned
Just looking back at the photos, he has five different cuts around the eye and that’s ignoring the cuts in his mouth.
Madness to want him to be allowed to continue.
Re: Lewis v Klitschko II: Kiev exhibition rematch finally explained
Posted: 19 Aug 2018, 04:00
by Syntax Error
jamamb wrote: ↑18 Aug 2018, 06:16
lewis vs klit might be the most rehashed fight of the last 20 years, how many times has there been this same f@cking argument
Agreed, it's beyond tedious.
Re: Lewis v Klitschko II: Kiev exhibition rematch finally explained
Posted: 19 Aug 2018, 05:47
by greg
..as a Klitschko fan, I've always said the stoppage was legit..period
Re: Lewis v Klitschko II: Kiev exhibition rematch finally explained
Posted: 19 Aug 2018, 08:09
by jamesmcdonnell
HomicideHenry wrote: ↑17 Aug 2018, 15:00
He never rematched him DESPITE being offered over $30 million, which was unheard of money in those times... He wanted NO PART of Vitali, especially after he harpooned Kirk Johnson in two rounds.
Says the man who made every excuse under the sun to avoid fighting a total bum.
Get a life you sadsack.
Re: Lewis v Klitschko II: Kiev exhibition rematch finally explained
Posted: 19 Aug 2018, 08:11
by jamesmcdonnell
Syntax Error wrote: ↑19 Aug 2018, 03:16
HomicideHenry wrote: ↑17 Aug 2018, 18:01
Win? He was behind on all scorecards.
He may have "won" but he didn't beat him. His refusal of a rematch when he said he would, was evidence enough.
Have the Queensbury Rules been updated, whereby a fighter has to he ahead on the scorecards at the time he forces a stoppage too?
The refusal of a mythical rematch is a red herring & has nothing to do with the result of their actual fight.
Trailerpark logic in effect. It's practically metaphysical.
Re: Lewis v Klitschko II: Kiev exhibition rematch finally explained
Posted: 19 Aug 2018, 11:30
by chinarich
The referee should have let the fight continue, eventually Vitali would have forced the stoppage, he was wearing down Lewis’ hands with his face...
Re: Lewis v Klitschko II: Kiev exhibition rematch finally explained
Posted: 19 Aug 2018, 12:04
by jamesmcdonnell
chinarich wrote: ↑19 Aug 2018, 11:30
The referee should have let the fight continue, eventually Vitali would have forced the stoppage, he was wearing down Lewis’ hands with his face...
You know what, you're right, another 28 rounds, and Lewis would have had two stumps where his hands used to be.
Of course by then Vitali's face would have been smeared all over the canvas, but that's no reason to stop the fight.
Re: Lewis v Klitschko II: Kiev exhibition rematch finally explained
Posted: 19 Aug 2018, 13:30
by bigjack
It would have been far better if Vitali had continued until he was so badly cut that he had to retire,at least he would have been able to talk to his kids about it in years to come.
Re: Lewis v Klitschko II: Kiev exhibition rematch finally explained
Posted: 19 Aug 2018, 16:35
by jamesmcdonnell
bigjack wrote: ↑19 Aug 2018, 13:30
It would have been far better if Vitali had continued until he was so badly cut that he had to retire,at least he would have been able to talk to his kids about it in years to come.
Better how?
He may well have not been able to fight again if he continued, but in any case, no way should any fighter with cuts that bad be allowed to carry on.
http://www.mightyfighter.com/wp-content ... -eye-2.jpg
Re: Lewis v Klitschko II: Kiev exhibition rematch finally explained
Posted: 19 Aug 2018, 16:37
by bigjack
jamesmcdonnell wrote: ↑19 Aug 2018, 16:35
bigjack wrote: ↑19 Aug 2018, 13:30
It would have been far better if Vitali had continued until he was so badly cut that he had to retire,at least he would have been able to talk to his kids about it in years to come.
Better how?
He may well have not been able to fight again if he continued, but in any case, no way should any fighter with cuts that bad be allowed to carry on.
http://www.mightyfighter.com/wp-content ... -eye-2.jpg
James i was being sarcastic,having a dig at Homicide
Re: Lewis v Klitschko II: Kiev exhibition rematch finally explained
Posted: 19 Aug 2018, 16:48
by jamesmcdonnell
bigjack wrote: ↑19 Aug 2018, 16:37
jamesmcdonnell wrote: ↑19 Aug 2018, 16:35
bigjack wrote: ↑19 Aug 2018, 13:30
It would have been far better if Vitali had continued until he was so badly cut that he had to retire,at least he would have been able to talk to his kids about it in years to come.
Better how?
He may well have not been able to fight again if he continued, but in any case, no way should any fighter with cuts that bad be allowed to carry on.
http://www.mightyfighter.com/wp-content ... -eye-2.jpg
James i was being sarcastic,having a dig at Homicide
Ahhh...ooops.
You really must try harder.
Re: Lewis v Klitschko II: Kiev exhibition rematch finally explained
Posted: 19 Aug 2018, 23:05
by TooMuch
This thread is epic
Vitali lost, just move on
Re: Lewis v Klitschko II: Kiev exhibition rematch finally explained
Posted: 19 Aug 2018, 23:15
by jamamb
tbf, it seems this thread is being kept alive by ppl saying vitali lost
Re: Lewis v Klitschko II: Kiev exhibition rematch finally explained
Posted: 20 Aug 2018, 02:33
by bigjack
jamamb wrote: ↑19 Aug 2018, 23:15
tbf, it seems this thread is being kept alive by ppl saying vitali lost
He lost,but he didn't lose,Lennox won,but he didn't beat him.......is that clear enough
