Last punch from Pintor was brutal. Seeing Owen distressed on the canvas is the one thing that really makes me question the sport
I've always believed great sports have consequences, I see it every year here, a woman leaves here a widow, I question my own involvement sometimes, especially as I'm one of the ones building these powerful engines for some of these fellas.
Was just reading up on his story as a result of this thread.... nice touch some twenty years later
Owen's family, far from blaming the World Champion, telegraphed him shortly after their loss and encouraged him to go on fighting. Twenty years later, a memorial to Johnny Owen was unveiled in Merthyr Tydfil. At the request of the late fighter's father, the unveiling was performed by Lupe Pintor; the statue was sculpted by James Done.
there was a good article in i think the ring years back about as mentioned pintor meeting up with owens family, and being there in wales for the unveling of a statue of owen. pintor was just a guy doing his job, and im sure he never expected to kill him, he was very upset about it
jamamb wrote: ↑04 Sep 2018, 02:44
there was a good article in i think the ring years back about as mentioned pintor meeting up with owens family, and being there in wales for the unveling of a statue of owen. pintor was just a guy doing his job, and im sure he never expected to kill him, he was very upset about it
I think a lot of fighters feel that way when involved with a death of an opponent, which is why I find the film Cinderella Man awful because it portrays Max Baer as somebody who revelled being a killer in the ring when in fact it was the opposite, he was heartbroken at Frankie Campbells death. But for the sake of Hollywood, let's crap on a mans memory.
that was absolutely horrible and devalues the whole movie to unwatchable for me, to portray a man, a legend in his own right, of whom you barely can find a picture where he`s not smiling & joking, who raised money for campbell"s family and was haunted his whole life by that unfortunate fight, as a sort of deranged killer who beats people to death for fun and promises braddock"s wife to make her a widow is just disgusting. ron howard (shame on him) IS an arsehole of gigantic proportions.
Last punch from Pintor was brutal. Seeing Owen distressed on the canvas is the one thing that really makes me question the sport
I've always believed great sports have consequences, I see it every year here, a woman leaves here a widow, I question my own involvement sometimes, especially as I'm one of the ones building these powerful engines for some of these fellas.
Was just reading up on his story as a result of this thread.... nice touch some twenty years later
Owen's family, far from blaming the World Champion, telegraphed him shortly after their loss and encouraged him to go on fighting. Twenty years later, a memorial to Johnny Owen was unveiled in Merthyr Tydfil. At the request of the late fighter's father, the unveiling was performed by Lupe Pintor; the statue was sculpted by James Done.
Yeah there is a documentary on youtube showing pintor coming over. Owens family handled it well
I've always believed great sports have consequences, I see it every year here, a woman leaves here a widow, I question my own involvement sometimes, especially as I'm one of the ones building these powerful engines for some of these fellas.
Was just reading up on his story as a result of this thread.... nice touch some twenty years later
Owen's family, far from blaming the World Champion, telegraphed him shortly after their loss and encouraged him to go on fighting. Twenty years later, a memorial to Johnny Owen was unveiled in Merthyr Tydfil. At the request of the late fighter's father, the unveiling was performed by Lupe Pintor; the statue was sculpted by James Done.
Yeah there is a documentary on youtube showing pintor coming over. Owens family handled it well
they showed it on the beeb about 15 years ago IIRC, I thought both Owens' family and Pintor handled it well; Pintor came across very quietly dignified and humane, somehow it seemed in keeping with his stoic demeanour in the ring.
orbtastic wrote: ↑04 Sep 2018, 12:58
Pretty sure I remember Lou Duva getting stretchered out the ring after the Golota riot.
Does anyone remember Derek Wormald? His trainer collapsed walking into the ring and died (heart attack), that was a bit weird, happened on the BBC.
lol Duva lost the plot completely at the referee that night and I think I read he had a heart attack. He was stretchered out. He really loved Golota. The HBO commentary that night was pretty funny. It's such a huge gulf in quality between the American commentary and the Brit commentary.
orbtastic wrote: ↑04 Sep 2018, 12:58
Pretty sure I remember Lou Duva getting stretchered out the ring after the Golota riot.
Does anyone remember Derek Wormald? His trainer collapsed walking into the ring and died (heart attack), that was a bit weird, happened on the BBC.
lol Duva lost the plot completely at the referee that night and I think I read he had a heart attack. He was stretchered out. He really loved Golota. The HBO commentary that night was pretty funny. It's such a huge gulf in quality between the American commentary and the Brit commentary.
I left youtube on running in the background yesterday and it autoplayed a couple of compilations, Lou Duva popped up on a few, he always seemed to be losing his mind at ringside. Very excitable.
Was just reading up on his story as a result of this thread.... nice touch some twenty years later
Owen's family, far from blaming the World Champion, telegraphed him shortly after their loss and encouraged him to go on fighting. Twenty years later, a memorial to Johnny Owen was unveiled in Merthyr Tydfil. At the request of the late fighter's father, the unveiling was performed by Lupe Pintor; the statue was sculpted by James Done.
Yeah there is a documentary on youtube showing pintor coming over. Owens family handled it well
they showed it on the beeb about 15 years ago IIRC, I thought both Owens' family and Pintor handled it well; Pintor came across very quietly dignified and humane, somehow it seemed in keeping with his stoic demeanour in the ring.
When Mike Tyson came to the UK about 10 years ago, he made a deliberate effort to visit Merthyr to put some flowers down on Owen’s statue. Always thought that was a nice gesture.
Yeah there is a documentary on youtube showing pintor coming over. Owens family handled it well
they showed it on the beeb about 15 years ago IIRC, I thought both Owens' family and Pintor handled it well; Pintor came across very quietly dignified and humane, somehow it seemed in keeping with his stoic demeanour in the ring.
When Mike Tyson came to the UK about 10 years ago, he made a deliberate effort to visit Merthyr to put some flowers down on Owen’s statue. Always thought that was a nice gesture.
