Re: Floyd Manny 2 is on!
Posted: 16 Sep 2018, 12:27
Or 51-0leejonesjnr wrote: ↑16 Sep 2018, 12:23 If Floyd were to win a Pac rematch it would take his record to 50+1 and 0
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Re: Floyd Manny 2 is on!
Posted: 16 Sep 2018, 12:36
I'll join you on the twat boat mate, this looks as likely to me as Tyson-Holyfield III or Benn-Eubank III.tobyh5 wrote: ↑16 Sep 2018, 08:40 I may end up looking an utter twat here if it happens but i thought it was clearly banter and fcking around and am a little surprised anyone is commenting or reporting on this as if it was anything other than a bit of banter between two old foes. Plus obviously it would amuse Floyd to take a little attention away from Canelo / GGG
Mind, Fenech-Nelson III happened, didn't it? Stranger things & all that.
& slightly differently but they kept letting Rafael Marquez fight Israel Vazquez long past the point Vazquez's face had fallen off completely until Rafa got another win...
Re: Floyd Manny 2 is on!
Posted: 16 Sep 2018, 12:37
Nah.thechump wrote: ↑16 Sep 2018, 12:27Or 51-0leejonesjnr wrote: ↑16 Sep 2018, 12:23 If Floyd were to win a Pac rematch it would take his record to 50+1 and 0
Current record is 49+1, another win would be 50+1.
Re: Floyd Manny 2 is on!
Posted: 16 Sep 2018, 13:30
I am guessing you think any win over a debutant should be erased, or any win over someone over-matched? Jesus we will be here a while re-writing the record of every boxer in historyleejonesjnr wrote: ↑16 Sep 2018, 12:37Nah.thechump wrote: ↑16 Sep 2018, 12:27Or 51-0leejonesjnr wrote: ↑16 Sep 2018, 12:23 If Floyd were to win a Pac rematch it would take his record to 50+1 and 0
Current record is 49+1, another win would be 50+1.
Re: Floyd Manny 2 is on!
Posted: 16 Sep 2018, 13:40
I shudder to think of the amount of brackets & special characters our dear Lee would need to compute the record of Usyk & Joyce & Lomachenko, following their WSB shenanigans.
To him their records must look like a fornicating algebra equation.
Re: Floyd Manny 2 is on!
Posted: 16 Sep 2018, 13:41
What is the +1?leejonesjnr wrote: ↑16 Sep 2018, 12:37Nah.thechump wrote: ↑16 Sep 2018, 12:27Or 51-0leejonesjnr wrote: ↑16 Sep 2018, 12:23 If Floyd were to win a Pac rematch it would take his record to 50+1 and 0
Current record is 49+1, another win would be 50+1.
Re: Floyd Manny 2 is on!
Posted: 16 Sep 2018, 13:45
Because the Mayweather-Irish wrestler whose name escapes me fight was a special case mate, 'cos even though it took place under boxing rules & was sanctioned by a boxing commission & involved two people boxing it "doesn't count" for... reasons.
This is what Lee sees when he looks at the record of someone who's been in Prizefighter, for instance:
Re: Floyd Manny 2 is on!
Posted: 16 Sep 2018, 15:14
Is that win any different than the ton of pro debut fighters and 0-1 0-2 …..etc that are on Julio Ceasar Chavez's record?Datsue wrote: ↑16 Sep 2018, 13:45Because the Mayweather-Irish wrestler whose name escapes me fight was a special case mate, 'cos even though it took place under boxing rules & was sanctioned by a boxing commission & involved two people boxing it "doesn't count" for... reasons.
This is what Lee sees when he looks at the record of someone who's been in Prizefighter, for instance:
Re: Floyd Manny 2 is on!
Posted: 16 Sep 2018, 16:13
Nope, not at all mate, I'm agreeing with you. Nor is the Mayweather fight he's referring to different to all those Thais who fight novices & part-timers between title fights in stay-busy affairs... Off the top of my head Pongsaklek Wonjonkam fought a bloke who had about two fights when he was flyweight champ & something like 75-4.tiny_acres wrote: ↑16 Sep 2018, 15:14
Is that win any different than the ton of pro debut fighters and 0-1 0-2 …..etc that are on Julio Ceasar Chavez's record?
Lee's weird thing about it just made me laugh, mate, so I decided to rip the piss out of him for being silly. The brackets thing was a self-referential joke 'cos I said up-thread that the WSB fighters (Lomachenko etc) must do his fuckin' head in if he has to add special characters to Mayweather's record—Usyk probably had as many fights in the World Series as he's had as a pro!
Re: Floyd Manny 2 is on!
Posted: 16 Sep 2018, 16:55
Mayweather can stay retired.
Whilst I appreciated his boxing skills he was unbearable in the end. He's handed down a lot of bad practices to the next generation too.
Boxing doesn't miss him one bit.
Whilst I appreciated his boxing skills he was unbearable in the end. He's handed down a lot of bad practices to the next generation too.
Boxing doesn't miss him one bit.
Re: Floyd Manny 2 is on!
Posted: 16 Sep 2018, 18:21
Meh, I don’t have any feelings about the opinion of strangers on the internet, laugh away.Datsue wrote: ↑16 Sep 2018, 16:13Nope, not at all mate, I'm agreeing with you. Nor is the Mayweather fight he's referring to different to all those Thais who fight novices & part-timers between title fights in stay-busy affairs... Off the top of my head Pongsaklek Wonjonkam fought a bloke who had about two fights when he was flyweight champ & something like 75-4.tiny_acres wrote: ↑16 Sep 2018, 15:14
Is that win any different than the ton of pro debut fighters and 0-1 0-2 …..etc that are on Julio Ceasar Chavez's record?
Lee's weird thing about it just made me laugh, mate, so I decided to rip the piss out of him for being silly. The brackets thing was a self-referential joke 'cos I said up-thread that the WSB fighters (Lomachenko etc) must do his fuckin' head in if he has to add special characters to Mayweather's record—Usyk probably had as many fights in the World Series as he's had as a pro!
Of course in person if I discuss boxing with someone it is because they know the value of the Connor McGregor win, they know what Enzo beating RJJ means, likewise Bellew beating Haye, Valuev beating Holyfield or Spinks beating Ali. If a person doesn’t know these things then I won’t bother wasting both our time discussing boxing.
Re: Floyd Manny 2 is on!
Posted: 16 Sep 2018, 18:44
Datsue wrote: ↑16 Sep 2018, 16:13Nope, not at all mate, I'm agreeing with you. Nor is the Mayweather fight he's referring to different to all those Thais who fight novices & part-timers between title fights in stay-busy affairs... Off the top of my head Pongsaklek Wonjonkam fought a bloke who had about two fights when he was flyweight champ & something like 75-4.tiny_acres wrote: ↑16 Sep 2018, 15:14
Is that win any different than the ton of pro debut fighters and 0-1 0-2 …..etc that are on Julio Ceasar Chavez's record?
Lee's weird thing about it just made me laugh, mate, so I decided to rip the piss out of him for being silly. The brackets thing was a self-referential joke 'cos I said up-thread that the WSB fighters (Lomachenko etc) must do his fuckin' head in if he has to add special characters to Mayweather's record—Usyk probably had as many fights in the World Series as he's had as a pro!
Re: Floyd Manny 2 is on!
Posted: 16 Sep 2018, 19:02
Hey, don’t try to devalue Enzo’s win over RJJ! When you beat a legend, you become a legend!!leejonesjnr wrote: ↑16 Sep 2018, 18:21Meh, I don’t have any feelings about the opinion of strangers on the internet, laugh away.Datsue wrote: ↑16 Sep 2018, 16:13Nope, not at all mate, I'm agreeing with you. Nor is the Mayweather fight he's referring to different to all those Thais who fight novices & part-timers between title fights in stay-busy affairs... Off the top of my head Pongsaklek Wonjonkam fought a bloke who had about two fights when he was flyweight champ & something like 75-4.tiny_acres wrote: ↑16 Sep 2018, 15:14
Is that win any different than the ton of pro debut fighters and 0-1 0-2 …..etc that are on Julio Ceasar Chavez's record?
Lee's weird thing about it just made me laugh, mate, so I decided to rip the piss out of him for being silly. The brackets thing was a self-referential joke 'cos I said up-thread that the WSB fighters (Lomachenko etc) must do his fuckin' head in if he has to add special characters to Mayweather's record—Usyk probably had as many fights in the World Series as he's had as a pro!
Of course in person if I discuss boxing with someone it is because they know the value of the Connor McGregor win, they know what Enzo beating RJJ means, likewise Bellew beating Haye, Valuev beating Holyfield or Spinks beating Ali. If a person doesn’t know these things then I won’t bother wasting both our time discussing boxing.
Re: Floyd Manny 2 is on!
Posted: 17 Sep 2018, 01:39
We all know the value or lack of value of such wins but they are wins, in professional boxing and they count on a record which is showing all bouts taken part in. Our knowledge of their worth does not mean they are not legitimate wins of a contest between two men. So what if one is vastly superior, or one is miles past his best, or if one is a disputed decision, respect the fcking records man. Like everyone, know they got lucky, were gifted, had an easy win at some point, but records are official records. End of.leejonesjnr wrote: ↑16 Sep 2018, 18:21Meh, I don’t have any feelings about the opinion of strangers on the internet, laugh away.Datsue wrote: ↑16 Sep 2018, 16:13Nope, not at all mate, I'm agreeing with you. Nor is the Mayweather fight he's referring to different to all those Thais who fight novices & part-timers between title fights in stay-busy affairs... Off the top of my head Pongsaklek Wonjonkam fought a bloke who had about two fights when he was flyweight champ & something like 75-4.tiny_acres wrote: ↑16 Sep 2018, 15:14
Is that win any different than the ton of pro debut fighters and 0-1 0-2 …..etc that are on Julio Ceasar Chavez's record?
Lee's weird thing about it just made me laugh, mate, so I decided to rip the piss out of him for being silly. The brackets thing was a self-referential joke 'cos I said up-thread that the WSB fighters (Lomachenko etc) must do his fuckin' head in if he has to add special characters to Mayweather's record—Usyk probably had as many fights in the World Series as he's had as a pro!
Of course in person if I discuss boxing with someone it is because they know the value of the Connor McGregor win, they know what Enzo beating RJJ means, likewise Bellew beating Haye, Valuev beating Holyfield or Spinks beating Ali. If a person doesn’t know these things then I won’t bother wasting both our time discussing boxing.
Re: Floyd Manny 2 is on!
Posted: 17 Sep 2018, 04:08
You might be surprised. Even some people interested enough in the sport to post regularly on boxing forums are not bright enough to recognise a flippant comment about a silly contest for what it is and may think that someone literally edits and compiles their own unofficial records.tobyh5 wrote: ↑17 Sep 2018, 01:39We all know the value or lack of value of such winsleejonesjnr wrote: ↑16 Sep 2018, 18:21Meh, I don’t have any feelings about the opinion of strangers on the internet, laugh away.Datsue wrote: ↑16 Sep 2018, 16:13
Nope, not at all mate, I'm agreeing with you. Nor is the Mayweather fight he's referring to different to all those Thais who fight novices & part-timers between title fights in stay-busy affairs... Off the top of my head Pongsaklek Wonjonkam fought a bloke who had about two fights when he was flyweight champ & something like 75-4.
Lee's weird thing about it just made me laugh, mate, so I decided to rip the piss out of him for being silly. The brackets thing was a self-referential joke 'cos I said up-thread that the WSB fighters (Lomachenko etc) must do his fuckin' head in if he has to add special characters to Mayweather's record—Usyk probably had as many fights in the World Series as he's had as a pro!
Of course in person if I discuss boxing with someone it is because they know the value of the Connor McGregor win, they know what Enzo beating RJJ means, likewise Bellew beating Haye, Valuev beating Holyfield or Spinks beating Ali. If a person doesn’t know these things then I won’t bother wasting both our time discussing boxing.
Re: Floyd Manny 2 is on!
Posted: 17 Sep 2018, 05:21
Fight won't happen
Re: Floyd Manny 2 is on!
Posted: 17 Sep 2018, 07:27
This fight is supposed to not to get anybody interested, yet here we are, on a boxing forum, going back and forth discussing it.
Re: Floyd Manny 2 is on!
Posted: 17 Sep 2018, 07:30
what are ppl mostly going back and forth discussing? seems like most posts are saying 'nah wont happen' in response to the thread title saying its on, and then theres the whole discussion not about this potential fight, but of wether the mcgregor fight counts on floyds record 
does any of this show actual interest in a manny-floyd rematch itself, as a contest? granted casuals will prob still love it and no doubt theres good money to go around still
does any of this show actual interest in a manny-floyd rematch itself, as a contest? granted casuals will prob still love it and no doubt theres good money to go around still
Re: Floyd Manny 2 is on!
Posted: 17 Sep 2018, 08:03
Thing I don't get is how does Mayweather think it's a nine figure payday. Who really cares about this now? The first fight was years too late and stank anyway.
Re: Floyd Manny 2 is on!
Posted: 17 Sep 2018, 08:39
It's Floyd, still the biggest name out there and lot of people would still want to see that "0" go and ironically if it did, I doubt fans will be putting this big ole * next to it in the same way they want to negate the McGregor win.
Like him or hate him, he knows how to play this game like literally no one else out there. No other athlete or even businessman can generate that much cash in one night so don't think he cannot crack the $100m mark again. Sure maybe not the $250-300 but the lowest nine figures is a shrinkage of 66% so not that unlikely
Re: Floyd Manny 2 is on!
Posted: 17 Sep 2018, 08:53
Pacquiao has looked good since, so the sell would be that 'now he is the real Pacquiao he can win'.
Realistically I would watch it and it would definitely generate enough to pay each man $100m but I don't think it was anything more than a bit of fun and no real intention behind it. That said, seeds do grow into trees.
Realistically I would watch it and it would definitely generate enough to pay each man $100m but I don't think it was anything more than a bit of fun and no real intention behind it. That said, seeds do grow into trees.
Re: Floyd Manny 2 is on!
Posted: 21 Sep 2018, 07:56
Manny looked okay in one fight since, awful in his fight before. Manny was on a pretty good run prior to Mayweather 1.leejonesjnr wrote: ↑17 Sep 2018, 08:53 Pacquiao has looked good since, so the sell would be that 'now he is the real Pacquiao he can win'.
Realistically I would watch it and it would definitely generate enough to pay each man $100m but I don't think it was anything more than a bit of fun and no real intention behind it. That said, seeds do grow into trees.
I'd be up for it though, I just want to appreciate the master in action.