Sergio Martinez vs. Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. II - Rumours?

[Impractical Poster]

I remember the dayz Sergio was thought to be a viable threat to Floyd's undefeated record. Doesn't feel that long ago.

At the time that was being discussed he certainly would've been a viable threat to Floyd's undefeated record.

I thought so at the time. But thinking back, I'm not so sure. Sergio got by alot on his natural athletic talent. I feel Floyd's athletic abilities, fundamentals, and ring IQ would have spelled doom for Sergio. He may have been able to confuse Floyd for the first couple rounds. But after Floyd figured him out and adjusted, game over.

[gilgamesh]

I remember the dayz Sergio was thought to be a viable threat to Floyd's undefeated record. Doesn't feel that long ago.

At the time that was being discussed he certainly would've been a viable threat to Floyd's undefeated record.

I thought so at the time. But thinking back, I'm not so sure. Sergio got by alot on his natural athletic talent. I feel Floyd's athletic abilities, fundamentals, and ring IQ would have spelled doom for Sergio. He may have been able to confuse Floyd for the first couple rounds. But after Floyd figured him out and adjusted, game over.

The people that ultimately shut down Sergio had power in their shots. Floyd really didn't. He probably could've outboxed Sergio, but when Sergio's knees were in good condition in say 2012 he would've been a handful for Floyd.

[squiggy]

This is one of the most ill-advised fights in recent memory.

[gilgamesh]

This is one of the most ill-advised fights in recent memory.

It's gotta be up there for sure. Off the top of my head I can't think of a worse one.

[Ruthless-RKO]

And it’s Eddie Hearn promoting it. Will get some Latino’s subscribing to DAZN.

[klitoris]

Sergio too young for Chavez Jr. They better give it another 5 years before they can confidently expect Chavez jr to beat him lol

[SenorPipino]

The fight is still in the negotiation stage, so it's hardly a done deal. Especially since it involves Junior.

It supposedly would be fought at 168. But with Chavez partying with hookers for the past 18 months, it's hard to imagine he could make weight.

If it actually occurs, it's headed for either Las Vegas or somewhere in Texas.

[boxing_rocks]

Hearn says it is not close to being signed:

http://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/id/2 ... ddie-hearn

[Cas]

Martinez really shouldn't be fighting. His style does not suit a man his age now, he looked slow and old against Cotto which was well over 4 years ago and it did not end well.

Martinez was a superb boxer in his hayday but he's surely nothing left to prove now. Hope this does not happen!

[SenorPipino]

Hearn says it is not close to being signed:

http://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/id/2 ... ddie-hearn

Hearns comments pretty much writes off the fight. At least for the foreseeable future.


With November 17 just about 6 weeks away and no inked contracts, it would be near impossible to hold it then.

And besides, Junior probably weighs 210 now. He'll need at least 3 or 4 months to melt down to around super middleweight.

And maybe by then, Martinez will have smartly reconsidered.

[caldo2025]

I’m surprised why people are so against this fight. I loved the first one and I’m a huge fan of Sergio and I only got to see Jr knocked out once and I’d love to see it again. What’s wrong with killing an hour on a Saturday Night watching this one? Not a thing.

[RScarf1]

Fightnews has an article that the fight is not happening.

[SenorPipino]

I’m surprised why people are so against this fight. I loved the first one and I’m a huge fan of Sergio and I only got to see Jr knocked out once and I’d love to see it again. What’s wrong with killing an hour on a Saturday Night watching this one? Not a thing.

You have been following the physical decline of the 43-year-old Martinez, right?

[caldo2025]

I’m surprised why people are so against this fight. I loved the first one and I’m a huge fan of Sergio and I only got to see Jr knocked out once and I’d love to see it again. What’s wrong with killing an hour on a Saturday Night watching this one? Not a thing.

You have been following the physical decline of the 43-year-old Martinez, right?

The guy had surgery on his knees. Big whoop. This isn’t 1963 when a knee injury means a wheelchair. Knees are rebuilt stronger than they were before now. Do you watch any other sports? A complete knee reconstruction is a 16 month rehab before it’s stronger than ever.

No need to caress him. If Sergio wants to go again now that he’s had time to recover then no one is in better shape to do it then Sergio. He’s NEVER taken a beating inside the ring (cotton fight was not a beating, his knees gave out)and he started boxing way later than most people so he has taken less shots. Not saying that he’s gonna win a title but he has time for a couple more thrills. Go get it Sergio

[SenorPipino]

If Martinez was 23, you might be right.

But at 43, he's just falling apart.

Martinez was in the infirmary after every fight since Chavez.

If he indeed does climb back in the ring, you can bet that after a few rounds something else will quickly start to give out.

That's the reason that there aren't too many 43 year old pro athletes out there.

[tiny_acres]

I’m surprised why people are so against this fight. I loved the first one and I’m a huge fan of Sergio and I only got to see Jr knocked out once and I’d love to see it again. What’s wrong with killing an hour on a Saturday Night watching this one? Not a thing.

You have been following the physical decline of the 43-year-old Martinez, right?

The guy had surgery on his knees. Big whoop. This isn’t 1963 when a knee injury means a wheelchair. Knees are rebuilt stronger than they were before now. Do you watch any other sports? A complete knee reconstruction is a 16 month rehab before it’s stronger than ever.

No need to caress him. If Sergio wants to go again now that he’s had time to recover then no one is in better shape to do it then Sergio. He’s NEVER taken a beating inside the ring (cotton fight was not a beating, his knees gave out)and he started boxing way later than most people so he has taken less shots. Not saying that he’s gonna win a title but he has time for a couple more thrills. Go get it Sergio

I don't know how old you are but at 43 and away from the sport for 4 years it would not be an easy comeback.
If he is serious about making a return a few tune up fights would be in his best interest before fighting someone so much larger who could seriously hurt him
Just my opinion

[caldo2025]

You have been following the physical decline of the 43-year-old Martinez, right?

The guy had surgery on his knees. Big whoop. This isn’t 1963 when a knee injury means a wheelchair. Knees are rebuilt stronger than they were before now. Do you watch any other sports? A complete knee reconstruction is a 16 month rehab before it’s stronger than ever.

No need to caress him. If Sergio wants to go again now that he’s had time to recover then no one is in better shape to do it then Sergio. He’s NEVER taken a beating inside the ring (cotton fight was not a beating, his knees gave out)and he started boxing way later than most people so he has taken less shots. Not saying that he’s gonna win a title but he has time for a couple more thrills. Go get it Sergio

I don't know how old you are but at 43 and away from the sport for 4 years it would not be an easy comeback.
If he is serious about making a return a few tune up fights would be in his best interest before fighting someone so much larger who could seriously hurt him
Just my opinion

You talking about Junior???? Sergio used him as a speed bag for 11.5 rounds with bad knees. Why go tune up? At this age he’s just looking to get under those lights again on a big stage. I’d much rather him beat the hell out of Junior because somehow Mexicans will still spend grocery money to see that kid kill his family name. It won’t even be close. I don’t care what Junior eats after weigh ins. No risk.

[Ruthless-RKO]

[SenorPipino]

This is idiotic.

Everyone knows that Chavez would never take a fight on 6 weeks notice.

He easily exceeds 200 pounds between fights.

I doubt that he would agree to any 168 lb fights unless it was for a world title.

Hearn and Martinez are just jawing. Has Maravilla actually signed a contract?

What weight is Angulo fighting at these days? Probably 170.

[boxing_rocks]

[Ruthless-RKO]

Angulo that lost to Canelo?

[Ruthless-RKO]

Looks like Martinez wanted Chavez jr. more than Jr. wanted Martinez.

[boxing_rocks]

Angulo that lost to Canelo?

... and lost 3 out of 5 fights after Canelo, none of which were against good opponents.