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Re: Billy Joe Saunders fails drug test (talk about hitting rock bottom)
Posted: 27 Sep 2018, 15:09
by samwbr
DrDuke wrote: ↑27 Sep 2018, 14:39
It may sound like a conspiracy theory, but I believe, it's all about politics. He failed this test right after his controversial out-of-the-ring activities. Just like Fury had testing troubles, while he was notoriously known with scandalous statements. The chiefs didn't allow another "forbidding" character to be around.
When was the sample taken?
Re: Billy Joe Saunders fails drug test (talk about hitting rock bottom)
Posted: 27 Sep 2018, 15:13
by jamamb
Re: Billy Joe Saunders fails drug test (talk about hitting rock bottom)
Posted: 27 Sep 2018, 15:14
by samwbr
Re: Billy Joe Saunders fails drug test (talk about hitting rock bottom)
Posted: 27 Sep 2018, 15:17
by DrDuke
samwbr wrote: ↑27 Sep 2018, 15:09
DrDuke wrote: ↑27 Sep 2018, 14:39
It may sound like a conspiracy theory, but I believe, it's all about politics. He failed this test right after his controversial out-of-the-ring activities. Just like Fury had testing troubles, while he was notoriously known with scandalous statements. The chiefs didn't allow another "forbidding" character to be around.
When was the sample taken?
It looks like 3 days ago.
Re: Billy Joe Saunders fails drug test (talk about hitting rock bottom)
Posted: 27 Sep 2018, 15:19
by samwbr
DrDuke wrote: ↑27 Sep 2018, 15:17
samwbr wrote: ↑27 Sep 2018, 15:09
DrDuke wrote: ↑27 Sep 2018, 14:39
It may sound like a conspiracy theory, but I believe, it's all about politics. He failed this test right after his controversial out-of-the-ring activities. Just like Fury had testing troubles, while he was notoriously known with scandalous statements. The chiefs didn't allow another "forbidding" character to be around.
When was the sample taken?
It looks like 3 days ago.
I think you're a bit paranoid.
Re: Billy Joe Saunders fails drug test (talk about hitting rock bottom)
Posted: 27 Sep 2018, 15:29
by gilgamesh
Taunts a crackhead one week, fails a drug test the next. Yeesh.
Re: Billy Joe Saunders fails drug test (talk about hitting rock bottom)
Posted: 27 Sep 2018, 16:49
by Nightmare Roy
Naandrew wrote: ↑27 Sep 2018, 14:28
Hahahahahahahahahaha
Brilliant! Karma gonna Karma.
Re: Billy Joe Saunders fails drug test (talk about hitting rock bottom)
Posted: 27 Sep 2018, 17:13
by smiling assassin
Can't post links but Robert smith told sports mail " according to our rules and those of uk anti doping, he has not committed a breach. It is down to Massachusetts over what happens next"
Re: Billy Joe Saunders fails drug test (talk about hitting rock bottom)
Posted: 27 Sep 2018, 17:30
by Glass Joe
smiling assassin wrote: ↑27 Sep 2018, 17:13
Can't post links but Robert smith told sports mail " according to our rules and those of uk anti doping, he has not committed a breach. It is down to Massachusetts over what happens next"
How can you not commit a breach if you have tested positive for a banned subsidence? No wonder it's rare a UK fighter gets popped for something
Re: Billy Joe Saunders fails drug test (talk about hitting rock bottom)
Posted: 27 Sep 2018, 17:39
by smiling assassin
Glass Joe wrote: ↑27 Sep 2018, 17:30
smiling assassin wrote: ↑27 Sep 2018, 17:13
Can't post links but Robert smith told sports mail " according to our rules and those of uk anti doping, he has not committed a breach. It is down to Massachusetts over what happens next"
How can you not commit a breach if you have tested positive for a banned subsidence? No wonder it's rare a UK fighter gets popped for something
I'm not sure on the facts but I been told they are allowed it in there system During training camp but can't have it in their system on fight day someone else will know a lot more than me though mate
Re: Billy Joe Saunders fails drug test (talk about hitting rock bottom)
Posted: 27 Sep 2018, 17:39
by TheGman
Calls canelo then does this,he didnt get any mexican meat did he? Double standard prick
Re: Billy Joe Saunders fails drug test (talk about hitting rock bottom)
Posted: 27 Sep 2018, 18:04
by handsofstone
I remember being disappointed with Dominic Ingle's comments regarding Canelo's failed test in last months Boxing Monthly, everyone else who gave an opinion rightly slated Alvarez
BM-Does the sanctioning of the rematch reflect badly on boxing?
Ingle-No, Canelo has served the time he was given and you have to move on. However, bans need to be uniform, Dillian Whyte got 2 years for accidently taking a stimulant. Kid Galahad got 2 years for something he strongly contests. Canelo only gets 6 months
BM-What are thoughts on the length of the ban for Canelo?
Ingle- Its never black and white, The evidence doesn't seem very conclusive, Clentbuterol is usually used on animals, not humans, Canelo's paid his price and done the time he was given
BM-In what way could clenbuterol provide a fighter with an unfair advantage?
Ingle-It wouldn't make him stronger, Its a fat burner that accelerates muscle mass, perhaps enabling him to have shorter camp, I don't think its ever been proven to be effective, My view is you can either fight or you cant fight, No amount of drugs is gonna change that
Just by looking at Ingle you can tell he knows about this sort of thing which is surprising giving his views which are bollocks IMO, Liam Smith, Matthew Macklin and Martin Murray were all asked the same questions and were scathing of Canelo and rightly so, there seems to be a trend at the Wincobank these days, failed tests and crass behaviour and Ingle's ignorance is alarming, I rate him as a trainer too and he's a clever switched on guy
Re: Billy Joe Saunders fails drug test (talk about hitting rock bottom)
Posted: 27 Sep 2018, 18:07
by Boxerbeetle
handsofstone wrote: ↑27 Sep 2018, 18:04
I remember being disappointed with Dominic Ingle's comments regarding Canelo's failed test in last months Boxing Monthly, everyone else who gave an opinion rightly slated Alvarez
BM-Does the sanctioning of the rematch reflect badly on boxing?
Ingle-No, Canelo has served the time he was given and you have to move on. However, bans need to be uniform, Dillian Whyte got 2 years for accidently taking a stimulant. Kid Galahad got 2 years for something he strongly contests. Canelo only gets 6 months
BM-What are thoughts on the length of the ban for Canelo?
Ingle- Its never black and white, The evidence doesn't seem very conclusive, Clentbuterol is usually used on animals, not humans, Canelo's paid his price and done the time he was given
BM-In what way could clenbuterol provide a fighter with an unfair advantage?
Ingle-It wouldn't make him stronger, Its a fat burner that accelerates muscle mass, perhaps enabling him to have shorter camp, I don't think its ever been proven to be effective, My view is you can either fight or you cant fight, No amount of drugs is gonna change that
Just by looking at Ingle you can tell he knows about this sort of thing which is surprising giving his views which are bollocks IMO, Liam Smith, Matthew Macklin and Martin Murray were all asked the same questions and were scathing of Canelo and rightly so, there seems to be a trend at the Wincobank these days, failed tests and crass behaviour and Ingle's ignorance is alarming, I rate him as a trainer too and he's a clever switched on guy
Hmmm, yeah Ingle does look like he knows about this sort of thing...
Re: Billy Joe Saunders fails drug test (talk about hitting rock bottom)
Posted: 27 Sep 2018, 18:11
by BigDoofus
Looks like some of the haters might have ejaculated prematurely.
Re: Billy Joe Saunders fails drug test (talk about hitting rock bottom)
Posted: 27 Sep 2018, 18:11
by brian13
I hope Eddie lobbies the WBO aggressively for BJS to be stripped of the title.
Re: Billy Joe Saunders fails drug test (talk about hitting rock bottom)
Posted: 27 Sep 2018, 18:28
by Oiky
Not broken no uk rules has he , not a cheat in bbboc eyes, bit divvy to not no that vada have banned it but what he's tested pos for there is in heaps of legal workout supplements
Never failed nothing before either , shouldlve had more knowledge of what he was messing with but Robert smith and no other uk orgs give a f*ck about it
Re: Billy Joe Saunders fails drug test (talk about hitting rock bottom)
Posted: 27 Sep 2018, 18:42
by brian13
Oiky wrote: ↑27 Sep 2018, 18:28
Not broken no uk rules has he , not a cheat in bbboc eyes, bit divvy to not no that vada have banned it but what he's tested pos for there is in heaps of legal workout supplements
Never failed nothing before either , shouldlve had more knowledge of what he was messing with but Robert smith and no other uk orgs give a f*ck about it
The fight is taking place in the States, its what the Massachusetts regulation body set out.
Re: Billy Joe Saunders fails drug test (talk about hitting rock bottom)
Posted: 27 Sep 2018, 18:45
by samwbr
So much reaching goes on
Re: Billy Joe Saunders fails drug test (talk about hitting rock bottom)
Posted: 27 Sep 2018, 19:00
by ewenhay
Would it not be a good idea for all the anti doping bodies to have the same rules?
Re: Billy Joe Saunders fails drug test (talk about hitting rock bottom)
Posted: 27 Sep 2018, 19:07
by jamamb
espn saying its the rules of where the fights being held that apply first, this fights in usa not uk
i mean, surely there has to be some overarching rules that apply the same to each fighter, otherwise you could get one guy allowed to use differently then the other just because hes from somewhere else
image a drugs banned under boston jurisdiction , only for a guy to box there and be allowed to take it because hes from the uk, whereas the boston guy cant. would seem strange
im not sure whats happening, but is it really only uk rules applying to bjs when hes not boxing in uk?
Re: Billy Joe Saunders fails drug test (talk about hitting rock bottom)
Posted: 27 Sep 2018, 20:00
by Glass Joe
I think he's screwed. He has failed a VADA test and rules are where the fight taking place. Like drinking alcohol over here its fine, but do it in Saudi Arabia and you get put in jail. Tyson Gay (sprinter) got a year ban for doing same drug.
Re: Billy Joe Saunders fails drug test (talk about hitting rock bottom)
Posted: 27 Sep 2018, 20:24
by Oiky
ewenhay wrote: ↑27 Sep 2018, 19:00
Would it not be a good idea for all the anti doping bodies to have the same rules?
Be a very good idea , stop all the silliness
What he's tested for you can get in heaps of pre workout and other gym supps, divvy to not be clued up on what vada say you can n can't do but I highly doubt it's something he purposely had it in his brain to do or knew about
Re: Billy Joe Saunders fails drug test (talk about hitting rock bottom)
Posted: 27 Sep 2018, 20:44
by Exoddus
Common decongestant nasal spray is apprantly the reason for the failed test.
I remember years ago a skier a think said the same thing.
Re: Billy Joe Saunders fails drug test (talk about hitting rock bottom)
Posted: 27 Sep 2018, 21:28
by Grilling Machine
Re: Billy Joe Saunders fails drug test (talk about hitting rock bottom)
Posted: 27 Sep 2018, 21:53
by Alba
According to Frank, he's still Fighting . So what's going on,is he Fighting or not? Thought he would get a ban?